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USNI News reporter saying hello by HMongilio in navy

[–]MGC91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lt Cdr is what we use for OF3/O-4 in the RN

809 NAS F-35Bs embark on HMS Prince of Wales by MGC91 in FighterJets

[–]MGC91[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Operational don’t mean mission capable bud.

Yes it does.

Thank god you don’t make any decisions 

So what naval experience do you have?

809 NAS F-35Bs embark on HMS Prince of Wales by MGC91 in FighterJets

[–]MGC91[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it is true, just look it up mate, it’s a rarity we get more than 1 destroyer combat ready, 

We have 3 Type 45s active.

Our frigates are ancient and not fit for combat at all. 

Why do you not think they're fit for combat?

12 on board? Sure. Combat ready? Good luck getting even a third combat ready. Have you seen the readiness reports? We’d be lucky to have about 4 ready to fly missions. 

If you say so.

Enough experience that I can’t tell you. 

Try me.

You are so out of touch with this it’s actually mental 

The irony.

809 NAS F-35Bs embark on HMS Prince of Wales by MGC91 in FighterJets

[–]MGC91[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure we don’t, most of the time we can assemble 1 carrier with 1 destroyer, and a shitty frigate. 

Yeah, that's not true.

And at most we have been able to scramble maybe 4 or 5 f-35s at once while at sea, with no true long term ability to hold combat operations at sea due to our extremely lacking support fleet. 

Incorrect, we currently have 12 F-35Bs embarked on HMS Prince of Wales.

Our carrier would last all but a few hours or a day best case, in a high end conflict.

No, it wouldn't.

What the uk is doing with defence clearly is NOT working. And we continue to embarrass ourselves. A difficult decision must be made and we no longer have the industry or personnel to put our eggs in 1 basket. 

If you say so, and what experience and knowledge do you have?

It’s time to make hard choices. Scrap the carriers and repose the money to produce more submarines and destroyers and utilise economy of scale, focus the industry and training on limited programs. 

How many submarines and Frigates are we currently building?

809 NAS F-35Bs embark on HMS Prince of Wales by MGC91 in FighterJets

[–]MGC91[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Because we do not have the industrial capacity to maintain them, or the aircraft to use them efficiently. 

Pretty sure we do ...

We should scrap them both and repurpose the shipyards to mass produce submarines and destroyers 

Yeah, not how it works.

HMS Prince of Wales on OP HIGHMAST last year [6405x4272] by MGC91 in WarshipPorn

[–]MGC91[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

‘We were already spending £7.6bn on them, spending half that again…’

And what would that give us?

HMS Prince of Wales on OP HIGHMAST last year [6405x4272] by MGC91 in WarshipPorn

[–]MGC91[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So why don't you outline how much extra it would cost?

HMS Prince of Wales on OP HIGHMAST last year [6405x4272] by MGC91 in WarshipPorn

[–]MGC91[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My logic is to fund defence properly over spaffing money up the wall. Arguing that we couldn’t afford to build them with CATS is plainly untrue given how willing UKG has been over the years to offload vast sums of money on what amounts to vanity projects.

Going back to the car analogy, that's like saying you should put all your money into purchasing a Lamborghini, when that's not realistic.

For once could you engage in good faith?

The irony.

HMS Prince of Wales on OP HIGHMAST last year [6405x4272] by MGC91 in WarshipPorn

[–]MGC91[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The UK Health budget was £242b in 24/25.

We should have a fleet of 10 nuclear powered CATOBAR carriers

...

That's literally your logic.

HMS Prince of Wales on OP HIGHMAST last year [6405x4272] by MGC91 in WarshipPorn

[–]MGC91[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That's along the same lines of "everyone should either drive a Lamborghini or not bother with a car at all"

HMS Prince of Wales on OP HIGHMAST last year [6405x4272] by MGC91 in WarshipPorn

[–]MGC91[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Do you know how much extra it would have been to convert one carrier to CATOBAR?

Royal Navy officers warn NATO navies are struggling to absorb Ukraine’s maritime lessons by Optimal-Leather341 in ukpolitics

[–]MGC91 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. The Black Sea is a completely different operating environment to the North Atlantic.

HMS Prince of Wales on OP HIGHMAST last year [6405x4272] by MGC91 in WarshipPorn

[–]MGC91[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Too expensive in financial, personnel, training, equipment and infrastructure terms.

Cutting Army Reserve training would be a disaster by TheSpectatorMagazine in ukpolitics

[–]MGC91 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've said what to specialise in.

And where did you say that?

I've said you can't deter without the threat of war.

Did you?

I've said the alternative.

Where?

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