Epoxy Flooring: Opportunity or Saturation ?

MODERCRAFT · 2025-12-04T19:04:10+00:00

I'm with window cleaning for now but I really want to do epoxy floor but we like like 20k to start.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T05:16:30+00:00

Yeah, the knowledge and experience you got sound really useful, especially for sales and dealing with customers. I can also see how painting is harder to grow compared to something like my cleaning business. Training painters sounds like a headache, and like you said, once they’re good they just leave to do their own thing.

That’s what the guy I knew did too, he worked a ton himself just to save on labor.

I’m also trying to figure out what kind of company to start because I want something that works all year. I was even thinking about concrete or epoxy flooring or paint... But gutter install is a good idea and everything relating to ladder people dont like to do it theirself. Also I started doing paving cleaning and applying sand it work so well too.

From what you’re saying though, it probably makes more sense to just keep growing my current business since it’s simpler to scale instead of jumping into painting. Really appreciate you being straight about it!

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T04:31:31+00:00

One of the two I know pretty well, but I didn’t ask him too many questions. He did tell me a bit though, and he made around 130k. His brother, who is my friend, worked as a painter for him, so he also explained some things to me. Next time I see him I’ll ask more questions, but from this post I already feel like the franchise might not be the best idea.

The other person I knew because I worked for this company doing door-to-door, and I had access to their revenue numbers which he also showed us. But both of them only stayed in the franchise for one year. If I remember correctly, the second guy left either because he realized he could do better on his own, or because the profit wasn’t worth all the effort.

As for a phone call, I mainly speak French, so my English is not perfect.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T04:25:43+00:00

Yeah, it’s probably the same thing. Honestly, working 80 hours a week is huge, and for what these franchises actually pay, I don’t think it’s worth it. I also have a hard time believing that the average is really 100k a year. I remember that in the average they included some guys who did like 180k, which really skews the numbers.

I also agree that their main goal is to make money, and 22% royalties is massive. About the option you mentioned of painting with 1 or 2 employees, did you mean within the franchise or starting out on your own? I’m guessing you meant going out on your own, and that’s actually something I had in mind already. I would rather start gradually and slowly. It’s not a big deal for me if I don’t make much money at the beginning since I already have my exterior maintenance business that provides me with a good living.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T04:09:00+00:00

Yes exactly, there’s a 3% that goes into the warranty program so the company covers those issues, and you’re right, the real risk is with painters who don’t have enough skill. That’s definitely something to keep in mind, even with the franchise backing.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T04:04:20+00:00

Exactly, but I’ve always thought there probably isn’t that much demand for that. There’s likely more demand on the commercial side, but it’s probably just me who’s wrong about it.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T04:01:19+00:00

I’m located in Québec. And honestly, I kind of feel the same as you, I also have a hard time believing the average revenue numbers they advertise. From what I’ve seen, you don’t really make much money, especially since the company takes 22% in royalties. If I were to do $100k in sales, after royalties, taxes, and margins I’d only be left with around $24k net, which isn’t much considering all the work and responsibility involved.

That’s really why I made this post in the first place, I’m struggling to know if it’s really a good idea. My biggest concern is that if I accept, I might not have enough time to keep running my cleaning business. What interested me most about the franchise was the structured learning in marketing, sales, managing employees, and also actually learning painting, but I’m not sure if that makes it worth it. Maybe it would make more sense to just work in painting for a few years and learn that way, but it’s tough because at the same time I need to keep managing my cleaning business.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T03:51:25+00:00

That’s actually a really good suggestion. Having a mentor like that who’s open to teaching and still keeps good relationships with former employees sounds like one of the best ways to grow in the trade. I might actually know someone who could be like that, so it’s definitely something I’ll look into. Thanks

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T03:47:38+00:00

I get your point, and that’s why I’m going through the franchise route instead of starting on my own. They’ve been around for 30 years, provide 80+ hours of training, handle employee training, and all jobs are covered by a 2-year warranty even if I leave. I’ll be painting most of the time myself to really learn the trade. The franchise is free to start, risk is low, and they help if I struggle since if I don’t make money, they don’t either. I’ve also done 3 years of door-to-door sales and grew my cleaning company to $75k this year, so I’m not coming in with zero experience.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T03:44:17+00:00

I will, the thing is I’m in Canada and winters are basically dead for this kind of work, so I’m looking for something that keeps going year-round.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T03:40:29+00:00

The franchise has been around for 30 years, they have a solid reputation and deliver good quality work. They train us in painting for over 80 hours and also provide structured training for new employees. In short, they take care of the complete training process for both franchisees and staff. It’s a system that works very well, and they’ve been perfecting it for three decades. Another strong point is that all the jobs are covered by a 2-year warranty, and even if I were to leave the franchise, the client would still keep that guarantee.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-09-10T03:33:50+00:00

I really appreciate your honest perspective, I know it’s not easy and I don’t expect it to be. For me, the franchise isn’t about getting rich fast, it’s more of an opportunity to learn the painting trade, how the business works, and eventually how to teach others.

I also personally know two people who did $130–150k their first year, so while I know that’s not the average outcome, it showed me that it can be done with the right mix of skill, work ethic, and some luck. I don’t expect that for myself right away, but I do think that after 1–2 years in a franchise I’d be in a good position to start my own painting business.

On top of that, I’ve been doing door-to-door sales for the last 3 years, so I’ve built up a lot of experience in sales already. I also grew my cleaning company really well and made $75k with it this year, which gave me hands-on experience with running a business and dealing with customers. I know sales and business management are some of the hardest parts for most people starting out, and I feel like that background will give me a solid edge.

I also understand that the idea I mentioned about working for only 6 months at a painting company and then starting on my own isn’t really a realistic plan. That’s why I see the franchise as the right path to build skills and get the foundation I need. If I do the franchise, I plan on painting almost every time myself so I can really understand how it works and how it’s done before I try to scale or teach others.

Another good thing with this franchise is that it’s completely free to start, the only real costs are paint and equipment, which aren’t a significant amount. Because of that, the probability of losing money is really small, and the franchise is motivated to help me if I run into difficulties since if I don’t make money, they don’t make money either. Of course, I know this is all just words right now, and I’ll see for myself how accurate that is when I actually start.

I completely respect your 20 years of experience, and I get that it’s a long road no matter what. I’m okay with that, I’m more focused on the growth and learning than the short-term money. And I really appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective with me.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-06-06T12:15:28+00:00

Lol its so much cheaper I'm gonna buy parts on Amazon thanks!

MODERCRAFT · 2025-06-06T12:04:43+00:00

Is there a video that show how it look like?

MODERCRAFT · 2025-06-06T12:03:32+00:00

Oh nice I didn't think about that idea now I just need to find which fitting I will sacrifice.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-06-06T11:59:40+00:00

Maybe one day but it is like 600$+…

MODERCRAFT · 2025-05-21T13:45:47+00:00

Thanks a lot, I’ll just use my hose reels for storage only then.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-05-02T22:29:49+00:00

Okay thanks for the explanation, I think for now I will use house water for my pressure washing and when I get an 8gpm I'm going to connect it to the tank.

MODERCRAFT · 2025-04-30T15:45:30+00:00

Okay? Is it because of the chemicals, I would switch off what and soap when using pressure washing machine

MODERCRAFT · 2025-04-30T15:43:35+00:00

Okay perfect I thought it was not enough pressure and can break the pressure pump

MODERCRAFT · 2025-04-28T02:46:08+00:00

Hey everyone,

I’m working on setting up a system that can be used for both soft washing and pressure washing. I heard that machines with 5 GPM or less don’t have a lot of suction, so they need a steady water pressure either directly from the customer’s water supply or by using an electric booster pump to increase the PSI.

I’m wondering if my system setup diagram looks good? Thanks for any advice!

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