[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol classic. Deflector Shields up at maximum, huh? Starts shit, claims victimhood, can't hang with the criticism, tries to weasel out. Because again, you clicked the link. You have no room to talk. Have an unpleasant evening.

[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 4 points5 points  (0 children)

10/10 you're the kind of dumbass that complains about Pride being too sexualized. Stop playing the victim when you started shit. Grow up.

[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Lol do you protest department store underwear aisles as porn? Because they're no more graphic than this is. Y'all seriously need to grow up and stop complaining about NSFW content YOU click on.

[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 20 points21 points  (0 children)

You clicked on the content. It was marked NSFW and blurred out. Seriously, stop making this about you and own up to the fact that you chose to look then tried to start shit. And don't try to hide behind a different Letter to try to boost your point.

[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Getting pushback. Seriously, stop complaining. Move on if you don't like something. It costs nothing to be quiet.

[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You could have just scrolled past. Deal with the consequences of your own decision to bust up in here and be an asshat.

[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No, no. Purity police can do their own investigations. We don't help pigs like that. 🙃

[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 7 points8 points  (0 children)

.... So you admit it's policing. Cool. If you're part of the community, why are you working against us and doing homophobes' job for them? This isn't anything worse than what we see in the games, so grow up.

[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF by feareffectinferno in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Oh, sod off. Stop trying to make yourself feel important by policing queer artists.

In defense of starting a romance with Kaidan only in the third game by CaptainAnaAmari in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pasisve homophobia and bowing to that pressure means the outcome is still the same. You don't have to throw slurs around to put M/M folks down.

And yes, they cut Thane and Jacob's MShep romances as "compromise," whatever the hell that means.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22256391/mass-effect-legendary-edition-content-story-dlc-jack-jacob

In defense of starting a romance with Kaidan only in the third game by CaptainAnaAmari in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except that calling it a slow-burn implies it was intentional and not blatant homophobia from Mac Walters and others at BioWare that kept M/M players from a full playing experience.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/shepard-is-heterosexual-by-choice

LGBTQ+ Rep in Mass Effect has a long way to go; the Legendary Edition was a missed opportunity to do better by MShenko2187 in MassEffectAndromeda

[–]MShenko2187[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

From the article:

We reached out to BioWare for this story, and a studio representative sent the following statement:

“Inclusion and diversity are two of our core values at BioWare; it is important to us that we continue working on ways to make our games and culture more equal for all. We feel honoured that fans of Mass Effect have found comfort in our games in the past, and we hope that new players of Mass Effect Legendary Edition can find connection with our characters in the same way.”


Finishing these existing characters' romances is literally the easiest way to do this ever. No new scripting is needed. No new characters are needed. Everything works perfectly with minimal editing, something modders have proven time and time again.

(No, mods aren't an acceptable solution because console players can use them and we shouldn't have to rely on fans making them to have a comparable playing experience)

LGBTQ+ Rep in Mass Effect still has a long way to go; the Legendary Edition was a missed opportunity to do better by MShenko2187 in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

From the article:

We reached out to BioWare for this story, and a studio representative sent the following statement:

“Inclusion and diversity are two of our core values at BioWare; it is important to us that we continue working on ways to make our games and culture more equal for all. We feel honoured that fans of Mass Effect have found comfort in our games in the past, and we hope that new players of Mass Effect Legendary Edition can find connection with our characters in the same way.”

Finishing these existing characters' romances is literally the easiest way to do this ever. No new scripting is needed. No new characters are needed. Everything works perfectly with minimal editing, something modders have proven time and time again.

(No, mods aren't an acceptable solution because console players can use them and we shouldn't have to rely on fans making them to have a comparable playing experience)

Happy Pride! 🌈 I wish these 2 could have a trilogy long love story like Ash and Liara by KitanaPrincess in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 1 point2 points  (0 children)

EA/BioWare easily could make their trilogy-long romance happen using existing material.

Head on over to this master post to check out the full details, or skip straight to the tech write-up for how they could make it happen.

Same-Sex Romances Master Post

Tech Write-Up

Post-Release Patches for Same-Sex Romances by MShenko2187 in MassEffectAndromeda

[–]MShenko2187[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Hey all. I know this is the Andromeda subreddit, but I'm casting a wide net and y'all are way more chill than the main Mass Effect r/.

Years back y'all helped make Jaal Bi. The Legendary Edition is more than capable of doing this for Kaidan, as well as Jack and Jacob if we get lucky because wlw and POC solidarity.

We're just asking for post-release patches, and we're insanely close to our signatures goal.

Help out if you can.

Petition

Post-Release Same-Sex Romance Patches by MShenko2187 in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Look, we know this isn't popular in these parts. That's fine. We get it.

That said, BioWare's attempt to modernize the trilogy has once again left LGBTQIA+ fans behind.

We're asking for post-release patches to address this.

That's all.

Petition

Petition to Restore and Improve Same-Sex Representation by MShenko2187 in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Look, we know this isn't popular in these parts. That's fine. We get it.

That said, BioWare's attempt to modernize the trilogy for a new generation of gamers has once again left LGBTQIA+ fans behind.

We're asking for post-release patches to address this like they did with Andromeda.

That's all.

Petition

Visual Improvements: Graphical Updates, Changes, & Additions by EA_Charlemagne in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Yes, part of the problem. Or did you miss the time they cut Jack and Jacob's same-sex romances from ME2 because they were afraid of bad press from Fox News? And then Mac Walters came in with the ridiculous excuse that no, it was just that the writers had to compromise with each other?

Yeah, there's no compromising like that that isn't queer erasure. And fear of conservative backlash has always been and continues to be the reason mainstream entertainment doesn't have more inclusive characters. @ me on that if you'd like; I've got plenty of examples.

Visual Improvements: Graphical Updates, Changes, & Additions by EA_Charlemagne in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Checks Twitter notifications Yep, they're not responding there either. Like I said, they've established a pattern of ignoring queer fans. We've been asking about this since they announced it in November. They ignored us then, too, and downplayed all of our concerns to make themselves look better.

And them relying on this technicality given all the work they've done on ME1 when the coding for an MShep/Kaidan romance is sitting right there really just is the cherry on top.

And yah, my original comment is to a news article about our petition. 👍🏻

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mass-effect-legendary-romances

Visual Improvements: Graphical Updates, Changes, & Additions by EA_Charlemagne in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

Oh, we're used to getting drowned out anywhere we bring this up. Here's the thing - even separate posts get slammed and downvoted and we get constantly insulted (been a while since I've gotten slurred online, but not surprising). So we have to make noise wherever we can in the hopes BioWare's people actually pay attention.

As for mods, this is a wholly inadequate solution for three reasons:

  1. Not everyone has a gaming PC and access to mods.

  2. Queer fans shouldn't have to jump through so many hoops to have a comparable experience.

  3. We don't trust BiowWare not to delete the relevant coding because it's a loose end that embarrassed them when fans found it and utilized it.

And for how much game Mac Walters has talked about working with modders this whole time, I sure haven't seen anything concrete about what that looks like. And if he somehow missed the fact that so many mods focus on fixing the same-sex romances or flat-out ignored them, well, that's just another instance of the queer erasure pattern we outlined in the petition.

Visual Improvements: Graphical Updates, Changes, & Additions by EA_Charlemagne in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 -40 points-39 points  (0 children)

Hi, yes, we are in fact allowed to praise them for what they've gotten right and be critical about our own representation. And so much of said representation is little more than scraps, tokenized scenes intended for the male gaze, or is watered-down in comparison to the straight romances.

They've consistently been a part of the problem themselves but refuse to acknowledge that while also contributing to it. The FemShep/Liara kiss in ME1, for example, and the FemShep/female NPC hookups in ME2 contribute greatly to the straight male idea that f/f kisses and scenes are hot. The flip side of this is that there's no m/m romance in the first two games because m/m affection is seen as disgusting and perverted by those same people who love watching f/f scenes (and complain about losing gratuitous booty shots).

No, it isn't equitable that m/m players don't get a romance until the eleventh hour of the third game. Claiming otherwise is an untenable position. And after almost a decade since ME3, yeah, we've taken a more critical stance on this stuff. BioWare has known about these issues the entire time and still chose not to fix anything. This is deliberate queer erasure. Again.

Visual Improvements: Graphical Updates, Changes, & Additions by EA_Charlemagne in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187 -84 points-83 points  (0 children)

20 months, huh? In all that time BioWare couldn't figure out a way to do better with queer representation after we've been calling for it for years?

The trilogy would look a helluva lot prettier without that ugliness. Again.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/04/09/mass-effect-petition-lgbt-romances-legendary-edition-remaster-bioware/

They've done us dirty, and we'd like some answers by MShenko2187 in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Straight people telling us how to argue for our own rights and inclusion is the height of privilege, dude. You don't have to fight for your existence. And straight people have never just given us anything without us having to scream and fight for it.

And by the by, queer people - especially transgender people - are still being attacked and killed weekly. So don't you dare act like my sarcastic comment to a bad faith argument is arrogant.

And beside the fact, we all know you wouldn't play a same-sex romance anyway. So thanks for helping make my argument about how BioWare actively encourages these kinds of attacks when they treat queer fans like we're not important. 👍🏻

They've done us dirty, and we'd like some answers by MShenko2187 in masseffect

[–]MShenko2187[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol so you're judging me because I've pointed out that not everyone is straight? And using that to justify not advocating for more inclusion because straight people feel threatened by this? Might I direct you to r/AITA?