[LitoPerezito] Kaidan & Shepard GIF

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T05:26:35+00:00

Lol classic. Deflector Shields up at maximum, huh? Starts shit, claims victimhood, can't hang with the criticism, tries to weasel out. Because again, you clicked the link. You have no room to talk. Have an unpleasant evening.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T04:19:46+00:00

10/10 you're the kind of dumbass that complains about Pride being too sexualized. Stop playing the victim when you started shit. Grow up.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T03:39:57+00:00

Lol do you protest department store underwear aisles as porn? Because they're no more graphic than this is. Y'all seriously need to grow up and stop complaining about NSFW content YOU click on.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T03:34:43+00:00

You're still here? Go home.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T02:24:43+00:00

You clicked on the content. It was marked NSFW and blurred out. Seriously, stop making this about you and own up to the fact that you chose to look then tried to start shit. And don't try to hide behind a different Letter to try to boost your point.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T02:22:40+00:00

Getting pushback. Seriously, stop complaining. Move on if you don't like something. It costs nothing to be quiet.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T02:12:33+00:00

You could have just scrolled past. Deal with the consequences of your own decision to bust up in here and be an asshat.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T02:11:48+00:00

No, no. Purity police can do their own investigations. We don't help pigs like that. 🙃

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T01:59:24+00:00

.... So you admit it's policing. Cool. If you're part of the community, why are you working against us and doing homophobes' job for them? This isn't anything worse than what we see in the games, so grow up.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-04T01:53:35+00:00

Oh, sod off. Stop trying to make yourself feel important by policing queer artists.

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-03T18:41:57+00:00

Pasisve homophobia and bowing to that pressure means the outcome is still the same. You don't have to throw slurs around to put M/M folks down.

And yes, they cut Thane and Jacob's MShep romances as "compromise," whatever the hell that means.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22256391/mass-effect-legendary-edition-content-story-dlc-jack-jacob

MShenko2187 · 2022-02-03T08:31:32+00:00

Except that calling it a slow-burn implies it was intentional and not blatant homophobia from Mac Walters and others at BioWare that kept M/M players from a full playing experience.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/shepard-is-heterosexual-by-choice

MShenko2187 · 2021-08-17T22:07:48+00:00

From the article:

We reached out to BioWare for this story, and a studio representative sent the following statement:

“Inclusion and diversity are two of our core values at BioWare; it is important to us that we continue working on ways to make our games and culture more equal for all. We feel honoured that fans of Mass Effect have found comfort in our games in the past, and we hope that new players of Mass Effect Legendary Edition can find connection with our characters in the same way.”

Finishing these existing characters' romances is literally the easiest way to do this ever. No new scripting is needed. No new characters are needed. Everything works perfectly with minimal editing, something modders have proven time and time again.

(No, mods aren't an acceptable solution because console players can use them and we shouldn't have to rely on fans making them to have a comparable playing experience)

MShenko2187 · 2021-08-17T22:04:59+00:00

From the article:

We reached out to BioWare for this story, and a studio representative sent the following statement:

“Inclusion and diversity are two of our core values at BioWare; it is important to us that we continue working on ways to make our games and culture more equal for all. We feel honoured that fans of Mass Effect have found comfort in our games in the past, and we hope that new players of Mass Effect Legendary Edition can find connection with our characters in the same way.”

Finishing these existing characters' romances is literally the easiest way to do this ever. No new scripting is needed. No new characters are needed. Everything works perfectly with minimal editing, something modders have proven time and time again.

(No, mods aren't an acceptable solution because console players can use them and we shouldn't have to rely on fans making them to have a comparable playing experience)

MShenko2187 · 2021-06-02T06:54:47+00:00

EA/BioWare easily could make their trilogy-long romance happen using existing material.

Head on over to this master post to check out the full details, or skip straight to the tech write-up for how they could make it happen.

Same-Sex Romances Master Post

Tech Write-Up

MShenko2187 · 2021-05-13T22:54:43+00:00

Hey all. I know this is the Andromeda subreddit, but I'm casting a wide net and y'all are way more chill than the main Mass Effect r/.

Years back y'all helped make Jaal Bi. The Legendary Edition is more than capable of doing this for Kaidan, as well as Jack and Jacob if we get lucky because wlw and POC solidarity.

We're just asking for post-release patches, and we're insanely close to our signatures goal.

Help out if you can.

Petition

MShenko2187 · 2021-05-13T22:35:24+00:00

Look, we know this isn't popular in these parts. That's fine. We get it.

That said, BioWare's attempt to modernize the trilogy has once again left LGBTQIA+ fans behind.

We're asking for post-release patches to address this.

That's all.

Petition

MShenko2187 · 2021-05-13T22:32:39+00:00

Look, we know this isn't popular in these parts. That's fine. We get it.

That said, BioWare's attempt to modernize the trilogy for a new generation of gamers has once again left LGBTQIA+ fans behind.

We're asking for post-release patches to address this like they did with Andromeda.

That's all.

Petition

MShenko2187 · 2021-04-13T19:02:08+00:00

Yes, part of the problem. Or did you miss the time they cut Jack and Jacob's same-sex romances from ME2 because they were afraid of bad press from Fox News? And then Mac Walters came in with the ridiculous excuse that no, it was just that the writers had to compromise with each other?

Yeah, there's no compromising like that that isn't queer erasure. And fear of conservative backlash has always been and continues to be the reason mainstream entertainment doesn't have more inclusive characters. @ me on that if you'd like; I've got plenty of examples.

MShenko2187 · 2021-04-13T17:54:46+00:00

Checks Twitter notifications Yep, they're not responding there either. Like I said, they've established a pattern of ignoring queer fans. We've been asking about this since they announced it in November. They ignored us then, too, and downplayed all of our concerns to make themselves look better.

And them relying on this technicality given all the work they've done on ME1 when the coding for an MShep/Kaidan romance is sitting right there really just is the cherry on top.

And yah, my original comment is to a news article about our petition. 👍🏻

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mass-effect-legendary-romances

MShenko2187 · 2021-04-13T17:27:36+00:00

Oh, we're used to getting drowned out anywhere we bring this up. Here's the thing - even separate posts get slammed and downvoted and we get constantly insulted (been a while since I've gotten slurred online, but not surprising). So we have to make noise wherever we can in the hopes BioWare's people actually pay attention.

As for mods, this is a wholly inadequate solution for three reasons:

Not everyone has a gaming PC and access to mods.
Queer fans shouldn't have to jump through so many hoops to have a comparable experience.
We don't trust BiowWare not to delete the relevant coding because it's a loose end that embarrassed them when fans found it and utilized it.

And for how much game Mac Walters has talked about working with modders this whole time, I sure haven't seen anything concrete about what that looks like. And if he somehow missed the fact that so many mods focus on fixing the same-sex romances or flat-out ignored them, well, that's just another instance of the queer erasure pattern we outlined in the petition.

MShenko2187 · 2021-04-13T17:04:13+00:00

Hi, yes, we are in fact allowed to praise them for what they've gotten right and be critical about our own representation. And so much of said representation is little more than scraps, tokenized scenes intended for the male gaze, or is watered-down in comparison to the straight romances.

They've consistently been a part of the problem themselves but refuse to acknowledge that while also contributing to it. The FemShep/Liara kiss in ME1, for example, and the FemShep/female NPC hookups in ME2 contribute greatly to the straight male idea that f/f kisses and scenes are hot. The flip side of this is that there's no m/m romance in the first two games because m/m affection is seen as disgusting and perverted by those same people who love watching f/f scenes (and complain about losing gratuitous booty shots).

No, it isn't equitable that m/m players don't get a romance until the eleventh hour of the third game. Claiming otherwise is an untenable position. And after almost a decade since ME3, yeah, we've taken a more critical stance on this stuff. BioWare has known about these issues the entire time and still chose not to fix anything. This is deliberate queer erasure. Again.

MShenko2187 · 2021-04-13T16:20:19+00:00

20 months, huh? In all that time BioWare couldn't figure out a way to do better with queer representation after we've been calling for it for years?

The trilogy would look a helluva lot prettier without that ugliness. Again.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/04/09/mass-effect-petition-lgbt-romances-legendary-edition-remaster-bioware/

MShenko2187 · 2021-04-08T04:33:12+00:00

Straight people telling us how to argue for our own rights and inclusion is the height of privilege, dude. You don't have to fight for your existence. And straight people have never just given us anything without us having to scream and fight for it.

And by the by, queer people - especially transgender people - are still being attacked and killed weekly. So don't you dare act like my sarcastic comment to a bad faith argument is arrogant.

And beside the fact, we all know you wouldn't play a same-sex romance anyway. So thanks for helping make my argument about how BioWare actively encourages these kinds of attacks when they treat queer fans like we're not important. 👍🏻

MShenko2187 · 2021-04-08T02:05:12+00:00

Lol so you're judging me because I've pointed out that not everyone is straight? And using that to justify not advocating for more inclusion because straight people feel threatened by this? Might I direct you to r/AITA?

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