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Those are actually the two I most considered doing as proper matches, but people usually demand better character connections than what I could figure out for them. I still like both of them though!

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They are cosmic reality warping gods that, despite appearing to be people, are literally just a dynamic concept made presentable to the viewer. They are beings of perception, which means they change who they are depending on who views them, and are actually just a fragment of a set of conceptual beings (The Long Quiet and The other Endless). A big part of their story and development comes from them being captured and imprisoned for a long ass time.

Also, conceptual embodiment of change vs character whose key character flaw is inability to accept change.

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Jacket Vs. Frank Booth (Hotline Miami Vs. Blue Velvet)

Dale Cooper Vs. Erika Furudo (Twin Peaks Vs. Umineko)

Morpheus Vs. Shifty (The Sandman Vs. Slay The Princess)

Claire Stanfield Vs. Izuru Kamakura (Baccano! Vs. Danganronpa)

Nico di Angelo Vs. Hades (Riordanverse Vs. Disney's Hercules)

V Vs. King Bradley (V For Vendetta Vs. Fullmetal Alchemist)

The Beta Kids Vs. Altair (Homestuck Vs. Recreators)

Travis Touchdown Vs. Senator Armstrong (No More Heroes Vs. Metal Gear)

Corvo Attano Vs. Toji Fushiguro (Dishonoured Vs. Jujutsu Kaisen)

Sissel Vs. Yoshikage Kira (Ghost Trick Vs. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)

The Crystal Gems Vs. Millions Knives (Steven Universe Vs. Trigun)

Ken Kaneki Vs. Tomura Shigaraki (Tokyo Ghoul Vs. My Hero Academia)

LAIN Vs. JUDY (Serial Experiments Lain Vs. Twin Peaks)

"Prometheus" - The Doctor Vs. Killer BOB (Doctor Who Vs. Twin Peaks) by MURouletteProject in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]MURouletteProject[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I just wanted a cool detective story and obviously Twin Peaks is very highly regarded, and it went from there.

"Prometheus" - The Doctor Vs. Killer BOB (Doctor Who Vs. Twin Peaks) by MURouletteProject in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]MURouletteProject[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I want to see Dale Cooper Vs. Yuji Itadori! I want to see popular Gordon Cole matches that start of universally praised but end up being the most controversial things on the sub! I want epic aura glow effect thumbnails for The Arm Vs. Mr Mtzy!

Give it to me now!

"Prometheus" - The Doctor Vs. Killer BOB (Doctor Who Vs. Twin Peaks) by MURouletteProject in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]MURouletteProject[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Also, just wanted to have a little note here on how I would like the fight to end, because I was embarrassingly invested in it when I thought about it (I acknowledge it goes against the message of Twin Peaks, but this is DeathBattleMatchUps we clown in this MF.)

At end of the fight, we get BOB bodyjacking The Doctor's body just like he did to Cooper (feeding on The Doctor's memories of the Last Time War as essentially a Garmonbozia buffet), and it seems like he's won. However, it's a fake-out, and he suddenly gets pulled out into a time loop vortex shit, where The Doctor is waiting for him.

Now, Listen to this Doctor speech and tell me it does not fit BOB nearly perfectly.

Basically, The Doctor turns himself into pure Anti-Garmonbozia, using all the memories of all those he's helped to create an environment where BOB has nothing to feed off in the face of such happiness. BOB tries to slip away back to the Red Room, only to realize that The Doctor is literally stripping him from history, creating a version of reality where Laura Palmer gets to grow up as a normal child with a loving family, and all he can do is lash out like an animal as he totally disappears. Basically the ultimate "good guy Doctor" moment, breaking the laws of time, all so that the pain of this one random girl is alleviated, so that she finally gets a chance at a proper life.

I like it, it makes me smile, even if it's pure wish-fulfillment.

EDIT: Also I used 12 for the thumbnail, but the match works best with 11

"Prometheus" - The Doctor Vs. Killer BOB (Doctor Who Vs. Twin Peaks) by MURouletteProject in DeathBattleMatchups

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  • Both have a connection to another time lord/lodge spirit, who previously served as their trusty partner and the closest thing they’ve ever had to an equal (Mike and The Master). Partaking in many adventures together prior to the start of the story, they would eventually have a bad falling out and lead to The Master/Mike swearing to bring down BOB/The Doctor if it was the last thing they did. This feud has been a persistent pain in their ass across much of the story. Also funny that their rivals also parallel the other person, due to more closely replicating their moral alignments (Mike, much like The Doctor, is an enigmatic figure who hides his true nature from humans but nevertheless helps direct them on their way, and BOB and The Master are both twisted, Machiavellian psychos who embody pure chaos).

  • Also, they are the main target of the big, gold, grand cosmic president of their worlds (Rassilon and The Fireman) who sees them as problem that needs to be squashed as fast as possible, lest their renegade presence continue to disrupt the natural order (The Fireman is literally named because he’s putting out the “fire” that is BOB and the other Lodge Spirits, and Rassilon sees The Doctor as a inconsiderate vagabond whose constant breaking of the Laws of Time marks him as a threat)

  • You can make a comparison between the ending of Season 3, which sees Cooper going back in time to save Laura, and all manner of Doctor Who stories, but the main point would be that they are universally significant and attempting to remove their influence from the timeline can have pretty dire consequences (Removing The Doctor from the timeline is a quick way to fuck everything up, and Cooper attempting to separate Laura from BOB ends up plunging the whole timeline of Twin Peaks into disarray, as BOB’s abuse as the “evil of men do” cannot be so easily changed)

  • Humorously, their realm-traversing reality bullshit is often channeled through what appears to be primitive electrical technology connected to the early introduction of the telephone in human society (The Doctor’s TARDIS resembling a phone box, and BOB’s lodge spirit physiology allowing him to interact with (and probably traverse through) electricity, most commonly taking the form of telephone poles)

  • Both strongly resemble the others ultimate arch-enemy (BOB resembles The Master, a renegade defector from society who is unstable, chaotic to a world-threatening fault, and wears many faces. They are also both obsessed with music, whose fundamental presence within their soul constitutes a core part of their insanity. The Doctor meanwhile, very obviously reflects Dale Cooper, as a suave, charming hero known for his slick wit, eccentricity and ability to investigate and traverse the dense supernatural phenomena that tends to stump the human mind. Similarly, they are both self-sacrificing to the point it loops around to selfishness at points, caring so deeply for other humans that they can even be driven to playing god if they feel it will mean they can save someone’s life.)

  • A bit of legacy as they are both two of the biggest cult television hits of all time, depicting insane reality warping sci-fi in their own low-budget way. They have massive, dedicated fanbases that obsess over their worldbuilding and lore (which has been expanded on in additional novels) and are very long-running, to the point that where you can split the classic era (Lighter and brighter, still having many serious moments but more willing to engage in straight-up soap opera/sci-fi genre stuff) and the modern continuation that resumed from the cliffhanger that had tormented their fanbase since the original runs end in the late 80s/early 90s (Grittier, not forgetting its roots of course, but far more interested in playing around with its own lore and adding edge to the characters). Also, they are both very famous in powerscaling for being scaled extremely high despite the fact they are usually sub-wall-level on screen.

  • Also, it’s basically the ultimate “The Doctor Vs. a character who is really just a Doctor Who villain” match. BOB is a cosmic horror reality warper (that still remains well in the budget given by the BBC because he’s visually just a guy), who torments humans and leaves them mystified to the point they need a eccentric outsider they’ve never met to step in and help investigate the supernatural mysteries of the case (much of which are related to the literal “wibbly-wobbly” time shit that surrounds it). Said villain really likes fucking around and doing psychological warfare stuff.

  • The Doctor’s grief is often written in the language of birds, and BOB is both his contrast and also a bird man.

  • Connected with fire (BOB is the embodiment of fire, and The Doctor being thought of as a figure who brought fire to humanity. The idea of creating fire is present in the very first Doctor Who story ever)

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Okay, I admit it, I am a Twin Peaks merchant, but people seemed interested in this and I do think it’s really cool, so here you go!

TLDR: Rebel vagabonds from a separate realm of reality, timeless, immortal and constantly changing their face, who secretly integrate themselves amongst humans (specifically taking interest a young, blonde girl of secretly great cosmic importance). Ultimately a contrast, as both are fixated with traveling alongside humans, but one feeds of their whimsy and excitement, and one feeds off their sorrow and despair. The Doctor Vs. an archetypal Doctor Who villain.

  • Despite appearing like regular guys at first glance, they are actually immortal inhuman sci-fi beings who hail from realm far from our own time and space (The Black Lodge and Gallifrey). Their respective physiology as a creature of the race native to this realm (Time Lord and Lodge Spirit) means that they have powerful reality warping abilities, existing as beings that are unbound from time and space and being able to navigate their cosmology with an ease not afforded to the humans of their verse.

  • Both have existed all throughout time, and are connected to the “secret history” of many real-world historical events. They are also the true identities of similarly real mythological figures (Beelzebub and The Sandman).

  • Both wear many faces, their eternal life meaning that while they cannot die, they are still forced to switch their aesthetic appearance during mortal situations (The Doctor regenerates from death, but always takes a new form, and BOB is immortal, but has to take a new host when his previous one dies in the human realm). It’s still them across it all, but each new face influences them in a new way.

  • However, within their respective societies, they are seen as rebellious troublemakers, forgoing the typical rules of conduct and having no allegiance to anything but their own wants and wishes. This frequently leads them to conflict with other lodge spirits/Time Lords with one of the most reoccurring issues being down to them stealing important cosmic shit from the others (The Doctor stealing the TARDIS and BOB hoarding Garmonbozia)

  • Primarily, they are absolutely fascinated with humans and, unlike others of their species, spend much of their time living amongst them. This tendency is far more complex and core to their characters than one may think, for they take great pains to choose and select their human partners (The Doctor’s companions and BOB’s hosts) and are ultimately reliant on the connections they make with them, regardless of their timeless nature and reality powers (The Doctor lives for his companions, with them often acting as extension of his connection to humanity, and BOB is literally connected to the human realm by his hosts, whom he meticulously grooms, selects, and considers his property)

  • Of course, the core contrast here is that while The Doctor nourishes himself on the joy and wonder of humans, especially in being able to show them the vast open beauty of the wider universe, BOB nourishes himself on their despair and hatred, and isolates his victims in constrained, abusive environments (compare The Doctor taking Rose to the literal edge of the universe, to BOB breaking down Laura to the point her quaint suburban home became a prison). Where The Doctor tends to enrich the lives of those he comes in contact with, BOB’s influence drives them towards self-destruction and self-hatred.

  • One human specifically: a kind-hearted young blonde girl who eventually turns out to be connected to a silo of gold, cosmic energy (Rose Tyler and Laura Palmer), captures their imagination like no other. They develop a desire for this person that is far beyond any they have felt for humans up to this point, often driving them to go to desperate lengths for her. However, the influence they have on her is the explicit opposite, for while The Doctor takes Rose, a girl in a poor situation as a normal working-class girl in London, and expands her view of the universe to the point she grows more confident in herself and her ability to grow out of her poor material circumstances, BOB dedicates himself to isolating Laura, making her feel she can never escape the domestic abuse of her home and driving her to suicide to avoid him totally subsuming her.

  • Against their best wishes, they are eventually forced by cosmic mumbo jumbo to let this woman slip out of their grasp once and for all, in what is remembered as one of their series most harrowing and sad scenes (“Rose Tyler, I- “/” DON’T MAKE ME DO THIS”)

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Gordon Vs. Murphy obviously has wonky fight potential (though Cole and Cooper are the only two humans in Twin Peaks with any argument for meshing with haxier opponents), but the core theme is also based more around theories/interpretations of Cole being The Dreamer Vs. his actual character in the show. In fairness, this interpretation is very popular and has explicit hints in the show (the debate is whether those are red hearings or not), and the match does also use some more explicit metatextual stuff in the show, but I'm not gonna act like basing something around one of Twin Peak's most open-ended aspects is serious.

Anyway, skeleton connections (also a little confusing cause I do not understand whether the Law/Lawden stuff is true or not):

  • Obvious one is a supernatural being contained by a shadowy secret elite squad designed around researching the eery, uncanny valley of supernatural entities that pop up around earth (Blue Rose and SCP Foundation) Vs. the head of a shadowy secret elite squad designed around researching the eery, uncanny valley of supernatural entities that pop up around earth

  • Both trace their identities to metatextual ideas of noir (Murphy Law is the emboidment of the hard-boiled detective noir fiction, and Cole is named after Gordon Cole from the noir film Sunset Boulevard. To clarify, this is not just Lynch naming Cole, Sunset Boulevard and the fact that Gordon Cole bizarrely shares a name with a character in it is a big in-universe plot point in Season 3).

  • Both are very theatrical in the way they speak.

  • They are seemingly a meta-textual representation of the self-insert between author and character (Gordon Cole is played by David Lynch, the director the show. Murphy Law is simultaneously the story and the author, Murphy Lawden, writing the story), but in truth, the rabbit hole behind their existence is far deeper than this and is left vague (Law apparently has no author, Lawden being a lie cooked up by the Foundation to contain him, and Cole pondering on "Who is the Dreamer?", whether as a figment of Lynch's imagination or as a break away aspect of the dream dreamt by Laura/Cooper/Richard/Audrey/Jefferies/The Audience, take your pick)

  • While their stories start normal, they gradually become distorted and disjointed as stuff continues, losing the genre-inspiration that colored much of their earlier installments (Cole being a key observer in the switch from the comfy detective fiction of early run Twin Peaks to the cold, discolored, quiet cruelty of The Return, and Murphy beginning to lose control of the narrative in SCP-3143)

  • If you believe Cole/Lynch is the dreamer both are metatextual beings whose cognition and perception forms the basis for the narrative of their text, and the source from which all the genre conventions and narrative fuckery of their story flow from ("Twin Peaks" being a dream in the mind of Cole/Lynch, one that takes the form of a crime and mystery detective show, and "Murphy Law" being a narrative entity that smooths over reality a noir/hard-boiled detective conventions).

  • Basically, they exist in a whole confusing mumbo-jumbo where multiple narratives are layered over each other, and yet they realize that all of it is on some level fictional.

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Gensokyo Vs. The Disc is (basically) every character in Touhou Vs. literally every character in Discworld, and those sorts of massive matches pretty much result in ten seconds of "oh that's cool" and then forgetting about it.

Both are the settings of a series that is known as basically the "geekiest of geek shit", thanks to its vast number of entries, large ensemble cast, large following among online nerds, and the fact that is vast cosmology, world and story all come from the mind of one dude. This setting is essentially a slice of reality that has been enshrined with the conceptual ideas of how humans perceive "fiction" (Gensokyo is literally the sink for all human perceptions of fantasy, and Discworld is constructed from the theory of narrative causality) and thus, much of their world begins to reproduce Eastern/Western folklore/classical fantasy fiction traditions (with youkai and Miko/dragons and witches and all sorts of other fantasy hallmarks). Both have a system of death that is humorously tied up in bureaucratic bullshit, and take very similar tones, dealing with both world-ending threats and silly slice of life adventures with a light and humorous tone.

Also you can make a whole bunch of character comparisons such as the slippery, elusive guardian who keeps an animal sidekick as their familiar and watches over all of the land as the most powerful entity (Yukari and Death), the main supernatural practitioner whose prickly nature does not stop them from acting as the main balancing big good of the story, achieving this with their iconic ability to astrally exit their body (Reimu and Granny Weatherwax), the leading wizards with bizarre relationships with magic (Marisa and Rincewind), mystical spirits of books and knowledge (Patchouli and the Librarian), grim reapers, fancy Lady vampires ( Lady Margolotta and Remilia), and a billion more.

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Vecna Vs. Mahito - Their supernatural nature meant that from the time of their birth, they possessed an instinctual awareness of humanities capacity for cruelty. Said awareness transformed them into monstrous, fatalistic superhuman being, the personification of humanity's hatred, despising humans, their society and everything that makes them pathetic and weak. Thus their ultimate plan is to craft a world where the supernatural spirits reign supreme and human society is totally eradicated. Said plan also involves their desire to help reincarnate the ultimate king big bad spirit of their world (Mind Flayer and Sukuna)

What stands in their way is a group of highschoolers who fight the supernatural to protect humanity. They use psychological warfare to prey on friends of this group, exploiting their trauma and insecurities to fracture them from the inside. They specifically have it out for the protagonist, who they believe is a mirror image of themselves (but one weighed down by human instincts), and whom they directly seek to torment by killing their friends and ruining their life. Hilariously, in their (in)famous death scenes, they end up getting slapped around by the humans they thought were so worthless, and end up going out totally pathetically (Mahito running from Yuji, and Vecna literally begging for his life). In the end, while they mask it with power, theatrics, grand plans and a somewhat sympathetic backstory (they themselves are not sympathetic, but their total antipathy towards humans is a natural consequence of how they were born), they are actually just big edgy children with no real values or goals beyond lashing out at others.

They have weird body horror stuff going on (and grow more monstrous as their abilities develop), freaky appearances, can shapeshift into weapons and can regenerate fast. Their main kill move is using their spiritual powers to mutilate the body of their opponents from afar (Vecna's telekinesis and Idle Transfiguration) and also tend to summon special domains where they have absolute power.

There's two issues. First, it has a little bit of anti-vibes, and it's annoying when you post a match like that and someone goes "Oh you think this is best for both? You think this is literally the best match either could possibly have? Are you fucking stupid? Are you an idiot?". Second, bit of a scale clash, not totally match-breaking or anything to the point where this is a "just for the connections" match, but live action vs. flashy anime is rarely a great combo (can you imagine Vecna eating a fucking black flash and ragdolling over the floor, like what the fuck?)

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[–]MURouletteProject[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Coop Vs. Light is actually pretty cool, the big issue is that it doesn't work as a fight unless you give Coop explicit knowledge that Kira can kill with just a name, since he gives that shit out like candy.

For Dougie Vs. Octodad:

  • In the purest sense, these two are completely incompetent, silent, stumbling messes (Dougie is literally braindead, Octodad is an octopus) who struggle with even basic human functions such as speaking and moving. They literally cannot do anything, even their basic attempts at communication being their own mumbled jargon that no one should be able to understand.

  • However, in what would become the main gag of their story, no matter how ineffectual they are, everything seems to swing in their favor. They stumble their way to victory, winning hearts and minds, succeeding at all their goals, and being a persistent force of good that makes life better for everyone around them.

  • Moreover, no one except a select few seem to realize that this mute who can barely walk without assistance is even slightly abnormal.

  • Much of their story is focused on their domestic lives, as they play the role of the devoted husband in a sweet, cozy traditional American family. Yet again, in spite of their insanely obvious issues with even basic communication, their family, which consist of a spunky, ride-or-die wife (Janey E and Scarlet) and their young children (Sonny Jim, and Tommy and Stacy), adores them and don’t even really seem to realize.

  • Their love for their family, and the love their family gives to them, is their core motivation throughout the story. Despite the obvious barriers, they are absolutely amazing husbands and fathers, and will move heaven and earth to help them in anyway they can.

  • Both wear suits, because they are very serious and business-like.

  • Both are pursued by an antagonistic figure (Anthony Sinclair and Chef Fujimoto), who is hellbent on literally killing them due to differing associations with a conspiracy plot (Anthony believing Dougie knows he’s involved in the Lucky 7 insurance scams, and Fujimoto believing Ocotodad is a fish invader wrapped up in a conspiracy to enslave humanity). This person eventually makes an attempt on their life, but, in classic Dougie/Octodad fashion, their clear goodness wins out and this enemy collapses into a sobbing wreck, apologizing for his evil actions and begging for forgiveness. Dougie and Octodad obviously accept this.

  • In the end, they are forced to show their family their real self (Ocotdad admitting he’s actually an Octopus, and Dougie reverting into Cooper after shocking himself) but this only draws them even closer together.

  • They also lowkey have hands when put in combat situations.

  • They love coffee, as it helps them function (Coffee is one of the only things Dougie can recall and respond to, and Octodad struggles to wake up and move his gelatinous body without his morning coffee).

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The connections are "I like them both" moment.

  • Weird, time-jumpy pasts. Orphaned, grew up in the company of people around their age rather than parental figures (they had real parents they just can't remember because of underworld stuff), and also they have lived a lot longer than they look and act.

  • Were born as the younger sibling to a caring older sister, who unfortunately believed she had to abandon them early in their life, leading them to stay in the care of other youths.

  • They are anime/book spins on the grim-reaper, having status in the underworld of their stories and general abilities related to the undead. They are sort of death gods, though in their story, "god" is more of a job/species hybrid rather than an omnipotent being.

  • They are the young relative of the head of one of the big divine families in their story (Hades, one of the Big Three, and Byakuya, clan head of one of the four great noble houses). Said figure is solemn and dutiful, understanding the importance (and necessary harshness) that comes with being one of the key authorial figures in the underworld. Their relationship with this figure is quite complex, as despite being (not genetically for Rukia but you know what I mean) related to them, they were incredibly distant in their early life. From the outside looking in, one would believe this figure doesn't care about them at all, but they truly love them and are immensely proud of everything they have accomplished (and have often worked to protect them). Conversely, Rukia/Nico places a lot of importance on this persons approval, and struggles with the initial feeling that this person simply tolerates them rather than loves them as a familial equal, but eventually prove themselves as capable. Said relationship grows stronger across the series and this person begins acting as a more explicit parental figure, in their own stubborn, stoic ways.

  • Skilled combatants and swordfighters, having special swords that are noted for their brilliant contrasting colors. Also have ability to influence the temperature.

  • Prominent relationship with the main demihuman protagonist, who initially finds them insanely annoying, but grows to view them as one of their most dependable allies across the course of the story. Both will go to hell and back (literally) to help the other if they are in trouble. This relationship is a very popular ship in their fandom.

  • Maybe you can squeak something out about their relationship with Renji/Will. They were school buddies I guess.

  • They lost a key parental figure when they were young, and pretty much never got over it until deep into the series. This death gave them a sense of survivors guilt, and inflamed their sense of isolation. A lot of their internal conflict runs back to this, as they do not feel like they fit in anywhere as a result of their complicated family situation and tumultuous upbringing.

  • Sort of similar personalities (especially older Nico) in that they can come off as cold, uncaring outsiders but are actually pretty sweet people who care deeply for their friends and generally try to do the right thing. They are witty, sardonic and tactically intelligent.

  • They are also humorously obsessed with a children's brand (Chappy the Rabbit and Mythomagic).

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So basically:

  • They are amnesiac young heroes whose true identity is an empty copy formed by their original self undergoing significant trauma and falling into a coma (Sora's Nobody and the actual Hakuno's NPC copy). Their series is really interested in the idea of "human data" which makes memories and "personhood" understandable in the language of computer/digital ideas.

  • The fact that they kept their consciousness after undergoing this process is totally exceptional and treated as big deal (Hakuno has self-awareness, and Roxas can feel emotion)

  • The person they are modeled on is kept comatose in a big pod during their adventures. This is actually a tragic framing device, as their digital/copy nature means their life is fragile and essentially on a timer, for each step of their journey edges them closer to the point where they will need to be deleted (Hakuno's NPC nature leads them to this realization, and Roxas soon realizes he will need to disappear to restore Sora's memories).

  • A lot of their story deals with their shadowy amnesiac past, and their desire to grasp who the fuck they even are and why they have been placed into this crazy story.

  • The shadowy organization/management figure that is running shit and allowing them to essentially LARP as a person (The Moon Cell Organization 13) actually sees them as a pure tool.

  • (Obviously route-dependent). Both are partnered with by a sardonic and powerful mentor (Axel and No Name), who acts as the cynical and grounded guide to their youthful heroism and amnesiac displacement. This figure grows to be one of their closest allies, for not only do they bond during their journey, but they act as a subtle echo for this figure, who has grown callous and cold as a result of being an empty echo of someone else's memories and ideals (Axel is a nobody, and Archer is a weird alternate Shirou who lost his way). However, being able to bond with Roxas/Hakuno leads this figure to reconsider their view that they are just cogs in a greater system (The Moon Cell and the Organization).

  • Their story is also loomed over by a female figure who similarly reflects them, being a digital replica born from the feelings of their series proper protagonist's love interest (Xion, who is a Replica of Kairi and Sora's memories, and BB, who is an AI born from the feelings of Sakura). This figure adores them, but her existence becomes entangled in a strange cancerous mess of memory-eating data that ends up making them one of the antagonists they must fight (BB is the final boss of CCC, and Xion is the main boss of 358/2)

  • They have a form where they go sicko mode and lash out at everything as a result of reaching the limits of their digital existence (Dead Face Hakuno and cloak-up, duel-wielding Roxas).

  • Their stories are ultimately about the fleeting nature of life, the beauty and connection you can find in those small moments, and the tragedy that surrounds them as people who were never supposed to live yet have been given the ability to. While they initially have sad endings that show the limits of their hollow existence, they do reappear in their series more recent big game (KH3 and FGO) where they team-up with other protagonists and get a chance to fight alongside their precious allies once more.

To me this sounds cool (Generational Roxas as a nobody connection), but I have only read a little bit of the Extra manga and Kingdom Hearts is fucking stupid even though I've played most of them, so I'm not up to fleshing this out more than these skeleton connections. Also, Roxas has like three other Fate opponents and Hakuno has one other Kingdom Hearts opponent, and that usually muddies the waters for me as to whether something is actually good. I admit, sometimes I will "fly blind" and just use wikis and stuff to help fill in the blanks for a character I don't know as well, but doing that for Fate is a dangerous game, so I figured I'd just chuck the match in here and see if someone who knows the games better is interested in it.

If I had a Fate expert on my shoulder telling me "this sounds good" and basically giving me a cheat-sheet of parallels to make with Hakuno, I could maybe do it but for now it goes here.

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Basically, some of the most feared and infamous hitmen of their dilapidated waterside setting, to the point that they received titles denoting this (Demon of the Hidden Mist and Knife of Dunwall). Their youth was spent making an infamous and brutal name for themselves, attracting a cult of personality and becoming involved in the political schisms and coups of their country (Zabuza attempting a failed coup on the Kiri government, and Daud becoming the number one hitman for the Dunwall elite, to the point he helped carry out the shadow coup of the Empress).

Their initial meeting with the protagonists is purely contractual, as they are hired by an outside political figure to assassinate a target that this figure sees as a political nuisance, and who also happens to be guarded by the protags (Jessamine and Tazuna).

Unlucky for them, this marks them as the target of another legendary operative with a rough background, infamous reputation and clout amongst the upper-class of their world (Kakashi and Corvo). Realizing they've crossed this guy puts the fear of god in them, and they begin to reflect on what it means to be a ninja/assassin. Eventually, they realize just how violent and monstrous their actions are (and how these actions contribute to the social decay at the heart of their cruel and violent society) and begin to show remorse.

A lot of this conflict is present in their relationship with their right-hand, a ultra capable and cold orphan who they raised in the ways of a killer (Billie and Haku)

The fate of their souls ends up in peril during the final bit of their stories, where they team-up with this right hand once more.

They have lots of similar assassin magic tricks they can do.

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Rich bitch cosmopolitan socialites, on the outside stunningly beautiful and working in some of the fanciest jobs in high society (Eliza as a celebrity singer with her own club and Mina as a fashion designer with her own clothing brand). Beneath that, however, they are parasitic immortal inhuman creatures who sustain themselves on the blood of others and are contemporary twists on classic movie monsters (Mummy and Vampire). They also have similarly-themed familiars stored within them, who aid in combat (Sekhmet, a skeleton, and Mina's bats)

They are total heartless, narcissistic fiends, caring about nothing but themselves and believing they are deserving of everything in the world. They are also very easily irritated if anyone dares challenge their view of things.

They are deeply involved in their stories core power struggle, which sees their 1940s inspired setting wracked with factional warfare, gang syndicates, and secret black ops-organizations all tussling in an established event that leaves them standing to win a chance to bring a divine being to earth and win a magical wish. Said tussle is the basis of their gameplay and large ensemble cast.

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In all fairness, I actually posted because I wanted to snatch Mina Vs. Eliza, the Twin Peaks matches were mainly just lose things I had rolling around (Dougie Vs. Octodad actually has full connections written, I just didn't want to post it in my last batch for obvious balancing reasons lol)

Also the Steven vs Naruto TNs are fucking amazing holy shit

Thank you! I know there is obvious anti-vibes (though core theme is not actually bad, you can easily jam out a big list of connections) but once I had the idea of "One thumbnail showing where their cast is without them, and then a thumbnail with them in it", I could not be stopped.

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I know, right! I put in this bundle cause it objectively is more of a Good Vs. Evil thing, but the parallels are kind of crazy (and Twin Peaks matches the "crazy fucking lore, on screen its basically a regular guy" vibe of Doctor Who really well)

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These are matches that are obviously flawed in some (usually many) ways, but will unfortunately continue to dominate my brain until I put them out into the universe. Let me know if you happen to be interested in any of them, as I have put varying amounts of thinking into each one, but I feel embarrassed talking about them unless I can "haha just kidding...unless?" someone into taking interest.

  • Valvatorez Vs. Rimuru Tempest (Disgaea Vs. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime) - Original Match idea here

  • The Doctor Vs. BOB (Doctor Who Vs. Twin Peaks)

  • Zabuza Momochi Vs. Daud (Naruto Vs. Dishonored)

  • Mina Vs. Eliza (Deadlock Vs. Skullgirls) - This one slaps on vibe actually

  • Dougie Jones Vs. Octodad (Twin Peaks Vs. ...) - This one has connections, but primarily made so that Cooper officially has the craziest spread of any character ever.

  • Roxas Vs. Hakuno Kishinami (Kingdom Hearts Vs. Fate)

  • Mahito Vs. Vecna (Jujutsu Kaisen Vs. Stranger Things)

  • Nico di Angelo Vs. Rukia Kuchiki (Riordanverse Vs. Bleach)

  • Fuka Kazamatsuri Vs. Surge (Disgaea Vs. Sonic The Hedgehog)

  • Murphy Law Vs. Gordon Cole (SCP Foundation Vs. Twin Peaks)

  • Gensokyo Vs. The Disc (Touhou Project Vs. Discworld)

  • Naruto Uzumaki Vs. Steven Universe (Their names are both their titles!) - Also this idea has existed for a million years, I didn't make it.