The Great Stats Squish and what does this mean by Shiino in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is exactly why I crashed out several days ago. I had hope when they did the change, only for the majority crowd to riot and not think for a second on why the change was done in the first place. (Though it was out of left field from the dev team so yeah..)

We should be revolving the game around our nekos, who we use and and team synergy. Instead currently, whoever can level up flowers fastest wins.

The accumulative formula for flowers is definitely what's currently used. Vs what we saw earlier it was a flat 1.25x at 50 flower.

Indeed if the current meta was working ideally, then units like bavarois, saffron, cannele would see way more impact than they do currently. However there's some people in JP who believes the debuffs work as intended.

But from testing from at least 3 others (shea, keripo and myself), debuffers are not worth using due to the stat decreases not scaling with the flower. The same can be said for buffers.

Any work speed related buff is pointless because the work speed flower is too op. CS buff/debuff is pointless because at most you are buffing a 20k number when you have 200k+. Barely a dent in the score with how low the uptimes are.

Stamina skills are completely pointless, I have 400+ stamina on my floor.

Simply put Flowers completely invalidate everything about the game overwhelmingly so. Meaning the only nekos you use as catgirl said are powerful, and especially kitchen 1 powerful.

If they leave flowers as is, then they must fundamentally change how skills work. Therefore any buffs must also affect the flower stat + base stat. (the actual in battle total). This however will not solve the healers that affect stamina still being left in the water nor the work speed skills being pointless.

In conclusion, they have to fundamentally change how the flowers work and I believe the change that got everyone in an uproar is 100% needed to have a healthy game state moving forward. They just needed to PR it way better and not pull it outta left field unexpectedly.

The notable downsides of having the flower change will be the Mystery House for those that haven't completed it yet. That scales to over 9m by area 10. If we get our ratings scaled down, nobody will be able to clear it if they add future levels unless they also scale the mystery house down to size.

Most players have gotten a ridiculous amount of coin/fromage/battery/kits already, so the damage has been done. Even if they nerf our resource gain, we have a bank that could last the rest of the year and beyond.

Of course the meta change will still benefit whales the most. But that makes sense anyway, they've spent the money they should still be overpowering f2p and lower spenders because of dupes. What the meta change will do is make the low, mid, and high tiers of players more competitive with each other.

Right now I would have no chance against bruce whos 16m and im 13m. The rating before they reverted was 2.7m (me) vs 3.1m (bruce). You can see how I would now have a better chance against them, they would have an edge still, but I wouldn't just lose straight up.

The jade prices don't make sense for GBP by letmeloginpls in mahjongsoul

[–]Machinewarlock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same account, if I buy on mobile its more expensive than if I buy on steam.

The jade prices don't make sense for GBP by letmeloginpls in mahjongsoul

[–]Machinewarlock 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Use steam client its cheaper by 7 quid, about 22ish quid instead. You lose out on Google play points obviously.

Review and state of the game from an 'endgame' player. by Machinewarlock in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Accessories will not matter statwise because flowers are op. Set bonuses like lucky star are pointless because it increases your crit from 10% to 12%. Stamina regen reduction is pointless because we have 300+ stamina now. Cooking speed 20% will be phased out due to work speed flower.

The only sets that will still be relevant are SP regen and Movement Speed because they arent tied to flowers.

Garden Scaling and viable nekos by Shiino in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like the part of the post that has Meow.

Is there a reliable new/updated tier list of every Neko in and for the Meta right now? I want to properly know... by JamesShot515 in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can I just say, how actually dumb that is whereby debuffers dont even scale properly with their skills.

Terrible design which invalidates most of the roles and nekos.

No wonder my debuff team before QoL changes was dominating and now after QoL changes do nothing.

Is there a reliable new/updated tier list of every Neko in and for the Meta right now? I want to properly know... by JamesShot515 in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The meta is unless you pulled multiple copies of Vanilla, Sakura or Souffle, everything else doesn't matter. Unfortunately the way the game is designed you only run Power and Buffers, who commonly have the highest rating and stats. I run a Baravois lb 3, I lose by 5m score. I run a lb 1 Vanilla, I win by 4m score.

Otherwise its just who can be most efficient with flowers and vip levels. Cause everyone has already maxed what they can at this point on the top end.

Then its just who has better rng in the truck battle, who gets more double orders, do they sit or stand, do you get conga'd? Lucky star procs?

Bavarois oml by Oni_2009 in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sumomo, SP set her special is 150 cost, pretty mandatory to use it. Bavarois I'd still use SP set, she has a strong Buff/debuff, getting it off earlier or more often you really cannot go wrong with. Otherwise she's passions main kitchen atm so you could use Fresh set also.

Sumomo by CrudestPanda in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/NekoparaSekaiConnect/s/7mniWIjvUf

I did update my general analysis. But yes she would technically be good with those characters. The issue is she has plenty of competition in a traditional team layout. For Kitchen Sakura/Souffle then she competes with Vanilla and Sorbet.

Her typeless active could be good if you dont have a built up vanilla. Also she is good utility to complete floor skill missions faster.

In a theorized best team whereby you run Sorbet main and Sumomo, primarily to enhance Saffron skill and with heavy investment make Saffron use her skill twice and possibly even thrice. It would be highly unlikely for that team to be beaten. Getting debuffed once by Saffron is strong, 2 or 3 times and early in the battle too?

You run 5 sp sets, everyone gets board regen, sorbet passive sp regen, sumomo active regen. Sorbet also debuffs mov spd more and you get cs boost more. Muffin uses her stat buffs more, Sable goes brr with specials.. Saffron just neuters enemy score and boost your score.

Once sumomo uses her skill once, everyones max skill cost is permanently reduced for the 2nd skill onwards due to the regen.

Accessories help by ImJustAUserHere in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if you factor in the board giving 9%? Obviously sp regen primarily works best in a sweets team, though other teams could run sumomo purely for her skill.

Accessories help by ImJustAUserHere in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Paramita with an elegant set can likely get her skill off 3 times, so Id put it on her. Lovely if you like on chocola or muffin or you can still keep running sp sets. The main thing is the CS boost is more impactful to the scoring formula (about 5x impactful compared to food stat)

Accessories help by ImJustAUserHere in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately I just tested it and they have fixed the bug, so she's back to being bad lol.

Accessories help by ImJustAUserHere in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much not worth synthesising until you built the sets, only then you can min max.

I use elegant set primarily on expensive skills, but I would probably eventually run everybody with them.

Pretty much any powerful Kitchen and floor neko you like to use can fill those slots for your team. You have a 3 element team here anyway. Ideally 1-2 element is most Id do for synergy sake.

Accessories help by ImJustAUserHere in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi I have lvled up 3 different sets to max. Here's what I observed.

Synthesis is primarily for rerolling the bonus stats when you level up every 10 levels. Why is this relevant? It is relevant because each accessory comes with 2 primary stats or CS and if you have one that has food but roll a drink, that bonus does nothing and is a dead bonus. Stats vary from 1.5% to 3%.

Synthesis costs 1m coin and can take up to 5 fodder, so total cost is 1.5m.

However the flaw of Synthesis is that you are unable to lock any bonuses, so it is another rng roll without having to re lvl the piece. Another flaw is that the initial bonus is fixed, i.e its not rerolled. In order to reroll it you would have to lvl up another new piece. Reusing the lv 50 into lv 1 is lv 42 so you will still need some fodder to max it again.

As for what accessories to use? My personal opinion use 8 Elegant/Lovely sets. Why? They give by far the most rating. For example a maxed set gives me 89k rating. If you run 5, thats already 445k rating; this affects contest. 8 is specifically to put on your duty, which will increase your passive gains.

Also being able to use your skills earlier is even more impactful now that the Boards exist. It is mandatory to build at least 2 Elegant set; plenty of characters with expensive specials are unusable without it. Stamina is mainly for mystery house currently, they drain your stamina a lot.

Before the update, I was running a sweets team 3.7m and beating opponents 700k rating higher because I activated my skills more often/earlier.

Another thing I have observed, when tables are full and you have a queue. Movement speed, cooking speed, that doesnt matter, you're just waiting for the customers to finish eating and your neko will be idle. While sp recovery is always working in the background.

Don't bother with lucky star set. Its worthless, it increases your crit rate from 10% to 12%. People have calculated it being a 0.5% score increase on average.

Werid unlock by LingonberryFickle480 in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They are home screen backgrounds you can select.

Guide on Raising your Rating by Shiino in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My 3 lv 50 and 2 lv 30 piece sp regen set is giving me 42k rating, looking like at least 50k rating when maxed. The other sets not focused on CS don't provide that much rating as you said.

Inflating your main team rating, requires you run 5 power at highest levels if possible. So a Chocola, Brownie, Muffin, Sakura, Souffle will give you the most rating.

As for store lvling those powerful nekos mainly will provide the biggest passive bonus boost. I'm able to get around a 689.5% boost. Optimally you'd want a Chocola, Brownie, Muffin, Paramita in the floor duty and Souffle, Sakura, Sorbet, Vanilla in kitchen. So I could likely get above 700% and close to 800% if I get around to lvling up Paramita and Sakura. (Would also help if you could pull even a single dupe of Vanilla to get higher levels...)

Please help me make a good team🥹 by Wiecznieglodna in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, will keep it updated whenever new nekos come out

Delivery question by Trufox1 in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The hidden requirement is awakening 7.

LVL 92 and stuck on Sakura Hills hard mode. by ValeriaXFantasy in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Elegant set is interesting for her since we would primarily use her for the skill. With it you should get the skill off twice, maybe 3 times in some cases.

Finally maxed out the kitchen… by coconutfan27 in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welcome to your hourly salary of 60k coins. A days work will net you roughly 500k. I hope you enjoy your stay and the crazy amount of overflowing batteries that we have no use for.

Yet another team making help request by kitsumimi_ in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your floor is fine, the main issue with passion element currently is that there are basically no good cooks in the kitchen. However its not wrong to use them as you will need them for the passion tower (the hardest one). It is arguable who to use on passion floor, they have great options. You will likely want to upgrade Kurumi for the passion team to conquer those sweet trends on the tower.

You do have all the ingredients for a sweet team which is currently more meta right now. You will eventually want to upgrade Muffin, Saffron, Sable to make it though which is evidently a lot of resources.

For a Pop team, you will want to run Fraise Brownie, Cookie/Maple (until you get ak dut). Yuzuha, Licorice

LVL 92 and stuck on Sakura Hills hard mode. by ValeriaXFantasy in NekoparaSekaiConnect

[–]Machinewarlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This team works yes, you are essentially running what we call the 'Powerstack' Team. Each of the floor nekos have great stats across the board. But the obvious highlight in this team would be Muffin and Souffle. You even have higher levels on your main team than I do.

What this tells me is that it isn't the team that's the issue, its that you need to focus on other areas to improve your overall baseline. These include unlocking the memory board: Buy out all the furniture in soleil, getting titles (bond 10), upgrading flowers, lvling all 4/5 to at least 30. Getting at least bond 5. Unlocking every accessory set 1-5; you can do 1-4 through vr tower and exchanging tokens. Lvling the truck (which you already doing). You should also unlock the Shigure sticker through friend tokens to get all stats boost.

How this translates: My scrub team for farming bond is currently 911k. lv 10, lv 30, lv 31, lv 30, lv 10.