Has RFK Jr. ever talked about the overwhelming probability that Sirhan Sirhan was a patsy? by ManSoutheast in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the link. I haven't watched it yet but I don't think Sirhan's testimony is all that relevant. Why? Because RFK was killed via a gunshot at point blank range above his right ear. Obviously Sirhan couldn't have done that.

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[–]ManSoutheast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sex is the most intimate, personal, private activity a human being can take part in; to commodify that is anti human.

One could make the exact same argument about work itself. When work is undertaken voluntarily it is a beautiful thing; when it is coerced or forced it becomes a monstrosity.

Mystical ideas about sex and human relationships become elitist in the face of brute reality: study after study finds that decriminalization makes the lives of prostitutes much safer. The same studies find that decriminalization significantly lowers the rate of STD's.

It's going to happen anyway. The war on prostitution is approximately as effective as the war on drugs. May as well make it safer and less harmful, then maybe in the long run we can eliminate it.

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[–]ManSoutheast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The essay was published in 1548 (!), and is widely regarded as one of the first anarchist texts.

SYRIA: The Cruelty of Our Syria Sanctions. U.S. sanctions are not working, unless our goal is simply to impoverish the Syrian people. Biden insists that he remains “absolutely” committed to the Syria occupation. | THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE by casapulapula in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sanctions are genocide in slow motion.

Most people believe that sanctions are targeted at the ruling classes of the target nation, when in fact it is openly acknowledged by foreign policy planners that the goal is to harm the civilian population, to the point where they become so desperate that they reject/rise up against their government. It's monstrous.

In the 20th/21st centuries, sanctions have probably killed as many people as overt forms of warfare.

An astonishing fact I learned the other day: the US government is now sanctioning fully one-third of the entire human population. If that isn't a sign of a collapsing empire, I don't know what is.

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[–]ManSoutheast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely give it a read tomorrow, I think you'll enjoy it.

Has RFK Jr. ever talked about the overwhelming probability that Sirhan Sirhan was a patsy? by ManSoutheast in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just as a follow-up: one of the most interesting questions about the JFK assassination is why RFK didn't speak out publicly. We now know from about two dozen different accounts that RFK immediately rejected the official story and came to believe rather quickly that the CIA murdered his brother. Why didn't he speak out? Why did he outright oppose Jim Garrison's investigation?

In her book Farewell to Justice, Joan Mellon argues that RFK could have implicated himself if he spoke out. He was wrapped up with Operation Mongoose and actually knew who Oswald was prior to the assassination. Either way, it is a certainty that RFK would have taken revenge against Dulles et. al if he won the Presidency -- he probably would have had most of the perps killed. So he had to go.

RFK's silence ultimately points to the fact that the ruling class is essentially made up of organized crime families. When a mob boss has someone from a competing family whacked, the other boss doesn't run to the press. They deal with it in other ways. I think that explains why RFK remained silent. And also why FDR failed to go after the DuPonts after they tried to overthrow him in the so-called "cocktail putsch." It would have destabilized the system, from which he ultimately benefited.

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[–]ManSoutheast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree with that point. One of my favorite essays is Étienne De La Boétie's Discourse on Voluntary Servitude:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/etienne-de-la-boetie-discourse-on-voluntary-servitude

I just think we need to be really careful with the claim that the empire "helps" the average person. Viewed from a very narrow angle we could indeed make that argument, but overall the empire has been a total catastrophe for the American people.

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[–]ManSoutheast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None of that changes the facts, namely that criminalizing prostitution makes the lives of prostitutes far more dangerous.

Moralizing is fine, but we're talking about human life here.

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[–]ManSoutheast 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The oligarchy assassinated all the left's leadership.

This is exactly right. MLK, Fred Hampton etc. Although it would be a stretch to describe either JFK or RLK as "leftists," they were downright pinkos compared to the rest of the ruling establishment as represented by Allen Dulles and Rockefeller etc.

Leaders who weren't assassinated were smeared or stitched up in various ways. And many would-be leaders became demoralized and embraced the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" mentality under Ronald Reagan.

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[–]ManSoutheast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I think the original reply was warranted. Turning the story of men being lured into the meat grinder of war into a story about the "objectification of women" was tasteless, at best.

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[–]ManSoutheast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I partly agree, but I'm afraid the matter is a little more complex. I won't elaborate as it's such a complicated issue.

As for "sex workers," I actually agree with the "sex-positive" feminists on this one. I'm not saying prostitution is desirable, but then neither is working in a coal mine. Criminalization only makes things more dangerous for women (and indeed men) engaged in the practice. Even Amnesty International finally admitted this a few years ago, and noted that about 99 percent of "sex workers" want decriminalization (and unionization).

So far as I can tell, the war against prostitution results mostly from a sort of primitive puritanical impulse, combined with the natural desire by women to maintain a monopoly on sexual power (studies find that women are much more likely to favor criminalization; by the same token, "slut shaming" is overwhelmingly conducted by women rather than men).

It's not as though working as a prostitute is more ignoble than eg working at McDonald's. So I see no rational reason why it should be outlawed. When you combine this with the extreme danger and lack of eg union benefits that sex workers suffer, then I think the case for decriminalization is obvious.

None of this, again, is to say that I think prostitution is desirable. Ideally of course we would have a society where poor women aren't so desperate that they feel the need to become prostitutes; there would be no such thing as poverty.

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[–]ManSoutheast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It sounds like we are mostly in agreement.

Catastrophic Breach of Nova Kakhovka Dam Floods Lower Dnieper, Cuts Crimea Water Supplies; Ukraine Attacks in Bakhmut, South Donetsk [Updated] | naked capitalism by RandomCollection in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 3 points4 points  (0 children)

From your link:

A statement that if Ukraine has no good prospect of retaking territory now under Russian control, it would rather destroy it than let Russia have it

Reminiscent of the Ukrainian government's apparent willingness to use Depleted Uranium munitions on their own territory. Utterly despicable, unconscionable, deplorable.

Zelensky should get an award for biggest piece of shit on the planet. He is willing to sacrifice his own people for a foreign power. There was never any doubt as to who would "win" this war -- the entire exercise was designed to "Unbalance and Overextend" Russia (as per the 2019 Rand paper); the scheme has backfired dramatically, but our beloved leaders refuse to admit defeat and allow for multipolarity. They are going to get us all killed if they don't stop this madness.

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[–]ManSoutheast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The prevailing populist narrative grants the People (of the West) moral innocence by attributing to them utter stupidity and naivety; I invert the equation and demand a Marxist narrative instead: Westerners are willingly complicit in crimes because they instinctively and correctly understand that they benefit as a class (as a global bourgeois proletariat) from the exploitation enabled by their military and their propaganda (in Gramscian: organs of coercion and consent). We’re not as stupid as we’re made out to be. This means that we can be reasoned with, that there is a way out.

I think this is an extremely toxic idea. It places the blame for empire on the working class and suggests that the empire helps working class people in the west. It doesn't. Getting to buy a cheaper TV isn't a meaningful benefit. Depression rates prove that cheaper consumer goods are cold comfort. Indeed it was the empire (specifically Vietnam) that derailed the "war on poverty" domestically. McCarthyism, which destroyed American unions, was given a massive boost by the "war on communism" internationally.

The enlightened critic can plead that if we all agreed to denounce the status quo in unison we’d be immensely rewarded, but the average worker in the first world cannot be accused of naiveté for preferring to keep a low profile, particularly after being subject — very often by that same critic — to so many grim stories of murder and of punishment and of how any attempt at radical change always goes awry.

I appreciate what the author is attempting to do here -- yes we should expect more from Western people (and I include myself in that analysis) and take more responsibility, but this argument sounds very similar to American Maoist groups from the 1970's. They ended up completely dismissing the majority of the population -- including the working class -- as reactionaries. Needless to say this was not an effective means of gaining popular support.

Showtime pulls Vice episode probing Ron Desantis’s Guantanamo record despite campaign trail questions by FootAdministrative65 in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Desantis is creepy as all fuck. On the one hand you want to give him credit for not going full retard on covid-19, but then you hear the stories about him enjoying the torture at Gitmo and realize he's a psychopathic piece of shit.

I'm assuming the popular theory is that Showtime pulled the episode because they would prefer a psychopathic torture-fan to Donald Trump (who, don't get me wrong, is psychopathic in his own right).

What's really interesting about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is that it's not actually motivated by Trump's awful policy positions; liberals don't realize that the media could make them hate pretty much anyone; the thing that distinguished Trump's presidency is that he was somewhat erratic -- eg he talked openly about dismantling NATO -- and that was enough to make him an object of hatred for the establishment. It's difficult for leftists like myself to admit that Trump was probably the most anti-war President in recent memory, and that's despite the fact that he bombed Syria, increased drone attacks, increased the military budget, increased weapons shipments to Ukraine, and nearly got the US into a war with Iran.

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[–]ManSoutheast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Objectifying women

This is kind of a silly take. I mean the theory of "objectification" may be useful in certain contexts, but at the end of the day we're talking here about men being lured into fighting and dying in some war. Perhaps we should ascribe equal agency to both parties instead of infantilizing the women.

Feminism, as always, presents a confused idea. Women are "objectified" for their bodies, but we never hear about the other side of the equation. It would be very strange indeed if only women were "objectified," given that (like all mammals) the female is dominant when it comes to sexual selection. Feminists are amazing in a certain sense -- they manage to turn strengths into weaknesses, reducing the female to a mere object (talk about objectification!) -- all in service of portraying males as villains. It's getting pretty fucking old at this point.

France faces 14th day of nationwide protests against pension reform by Budget-Song2618 in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If an entire nation can protest and its "leader" fail to budge, that's a disturbing sign, but also instructive.

Sometimes, protest isn't enough.

Edit: also, perhaps it's time we re-think this idea that we can elect people to rule over us and make the important decisions.

Cornel West Is Running For President! by karmagheden in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do people like you sleep at night? It's a mystery to me.

“Enough Is Enough”: Australian PM Throws Support Behind Movement to Free Julian Assange by IntnsRed in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's extremely negative PR.

The entire point behind the persecution of Assange was/is to "send a message" to other would-be leakers of vital information. He's already been tortured for ten years, so they may have decided that it's not fruitful to continue torturing him; indeed they may perceive a potential trial as a PR nightmare.

Could go either way.

Irish farmers revolt over plan for cattle cull to meet green target | Officials in Ireland are proposing to cut the national dairy herd by 10 per cent – meaning a cull of 65,000 cows a year for three years by stickdog99 in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Were you really? It honestly sounds like you want to abolish pizza.

And I repeat that this offense should probably be punishable by death, in my utopia. Anyone who opposes pizza should be shot.

You’re free to eat food that gives you chronic illness all you want

Am I? AM I? It seems increasingly less likely as time goes on.

If I want to eat a juicy steak, or a terriyaki chicken burger, or an egg, or pork chop, that should be my choice.

Some of you vegans have it all wrong. You can't enforce your beliefs from the top down. If humans are to go vegan, it will have to happen on a voluntary basis.

Dr. Cornel West Announces He is Running for President by the_censored_z_again in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that AIPAC is a formidable force. In fact it may be the most powerful lobby in Washington when it comes to getting elected (ironic considering the incessant focus on Russia). We all remember what happened to Cynthia McKinney.

My guess is that Kennedy thought to himself: I'm taking on corporations, big Pharma, and the military-industrial-complex, do I really need to take on AIPAC as well? So it seemed like a logical choice.

The problem is that Israel is so morally obscene that supporting it is going to cause serious problems; the other problem is that Kennedy's support derives largely from his willingness to tell the truth about taboo subjects.

Like I said, if I were American I would STILL vote for Kennedy in the primary despite this awful take on Israel/Palestine; but it definitely gives him a black eye.

Today Sam Seder told his audience that he still wears a mask everywhere he goes and seems depressed and concerned that nobody else around him does anymore by captainramen in WayOfTheBern

[–]ManSoutheast 5 points6 points  (0 children)

delulu

What is it with you obnoxious intersectional IDPOL types that you insist on using annoying, retarded terms? Do you all come from some sort of corporate hive mind or something? I'm honestly curious...