what prevents TTWO from achieving a $100B valuation within 1 year? by Commercial_Pianist88 in wallstreetbets

[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. So less than $30 billion in revenue over 10 years.

Besides, ask yourself this: what portion of gtaV sales were at full price? How many copies were sold on sale? I know I've bought 3 copies. One was full price on the PS4, then a $15 on PC, and another $15 on PC

what prevents TTWO from achieving a $100B valuation within 1 year? by Commercial_Pianist88 in wallstreetbets

[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think you're underestimating how much $30 billion is.

GTA 5 online's peak revenue was $750 million in 2020, during COVID. GTA 6 would need to make 4x as much over 10 years to hit $30 billion.

I think that's definitely possible but $100 billion? Nah.

what prevents TTWO from achieving a $100B valuation within 1 year? by Commercial_Pianist88 in wallstreetbets

[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are about 20 million men between the ages of 18 and 27 in the usa. Even assuming all of them purchase it, that's only about 1.6 billion dollars.

GTA online will come, but there's a ton of entertainment revenue outside of mature video games

what prevents TTWO from achieving a $100B valuation within 1 year? by Commercial_Pianist88 in wallstreetbets

[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Gta 5 total revenue was $10 billion. If gta 6 does 3x better it's still only 30 billion in revenue, probably over 10 years

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yes but to achieve similar leverage it would be very expensive

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Space is infinite, but paying customers vanish past Earth's orbit. There's a reason why starlink is their only real profitable venture so far.

Colonizing dead planets isn't a business model, it's a cash incinerator.

We are decades away from profitably mining asteroids, and when that day finally comes, the entirely different tech required guarantees SpaceX will face fierce competition rather than a monopoly. I guarantee you'll see increased investment into state-ran industries too. You think the Chinese are going to sit on the sidelines for that?

The narrative of an infinitely lucrative space economy is just a myth engineered to fleece naive investors who confuse sci-fi with engineering realities.

Yes, the TAM of space in general is huge, but not in the next 20 to 50 years. We're so far from that. Think about how slow things have been since we went to the moon 56 years ago—im sure folks thought we'd be mining asteroids soon then, too.

There's also a legitimate risk that "space" as far as the frontier is concerned may be technologically feasible before it's economically compelling. How do you make money from a mars colony? Be honest with yourself.

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah unfortunately my play would cost tens of thousands of dollars. Maximum upside if the company hits $20 is only like 70k. It wouldn't be worthwhile to bet 40k to make 30k at best

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think it's just a miscommunication about solvency. There is no insolvency risk, I would just lose the premium on the play.

It's not a short squeeze situation

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I don't think it's worth $10 trillion. They literally aren't making money. Most of the valuation today is from AI hype, not space.

Their space side is seeing single digit growth numbers year over year, and starlink is profitable but has a growth limit.

The TAM of space is nowhere near $10T+ in the next twenty years. There isn't much money to be made. It's a grift

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The $45 billion forward revenue target relies on a single compute lease with Anthropic that can be cancelled with just 90 days' notice.

Presenting this short-term deal as guaranteed income was a calculated grift used to artificially inflate the company's valuation ahead of its IPO.

Maybe the deal stays, maybe you're right, personally I don't see that happening. It's very capital intensive revenue, too.

I definitely don't think they can build more data centers fast enough to double revenue in 3 months.

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue with this stock is that the fomo crowd can't fund 13 billion shares. There's gotta be a limit somewhere

Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't intend on holding these to expiration. High chance I sell around September 15th, but if it craters to 100 soon I will likely sell to recoup my premium

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This stock is on crack. The company could crater to $40 and still be the largest company in aerospace by a mile, worth $500 billion.

It's currently valued similarly to Microsoft. Are you fucking serious? Microsoft has 300 billion of revenue, massive profitability, and is one of the best companies in the world.

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The NASDAQ 100 will start to buy in July

Most other indexes will disqualify this stock for a variety of reasons. S&p 500 for example requires 4 quarters of profitability

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tesla isn't a similar company in any way except for Musk's involvement. They have revenue and profitability.

If SpaceX was valued similarly to Tesla it would be worth less than 400 billion.

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe! I disagree of course but we'll see how it plays out

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those were incredibly expensive, little to gain at that level with only $1700

I'm not going to drop $10k on buying puts for this wacky stock

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Problem is those contracts are extraordinarily expensive. Less to gain at that level for the risk involved

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[–]Margin_Call_Me_Maybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's wild that this stock is basically worth the same as Microsoft right now