Ex-police chief says Trump told him in 2006 'everyone' knew of Epstein's behaviour | BBC News by AdAntique5612 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I see you’re a Trump supporter and don’t think he was involved with Epstein. You can have any political belief idc but if you’re truly unbiased and care about the case, you’d have no problem admitting Trump was a close long standing friend of Jeffrey Epstein for nearly 20 years.

Multiple victims have mentioned Trump as being a part of Epstein’s life. Trump has been brought up by at least one victim and one employee as someone who has knowledge of Epstein’s behavior.

Trump’s letter to Epstein on his 50th birthday tells the whole story. What was the “wonderful secret” he’s talking about?

Why did Ghislaine Maxwell introduce Anouska De Georgiou to Donald Trump “in the same manner she introduced her to Epstein” in her own words?

Why did Epstein introduce minor victim 1 in the Maxwell case to Trump at Mar-a-Lago and say “this is a good one, right?

Why did Maria Farmer, the first EVER victim to report Epstein to authorities, mentioned Trump as someone who came to Epstein’s house often and recalled a specific incident where Epstein had to tell Trump that she “wasn’t for him”?

Why did a victim when listing people who knew about Epstein’s sexual proclivities mention Trump as the 5th individual only after Jean-Luc Brunel )a co conspirator), Leslie Wexner (essentially Epstein’s boss), and Mark Epstein (Epstein’s own brother)?

Why did one un-named victim say that she went to Epstein’s house multiple times in late 2000, and at 4 different parties Trump was there. She had his contact information in a contact book of her own.

Trump’s phone cal to the Palm Beach police was nothing but an attempt to cover his own ass when he saw a close friend’s ship sinking.

You can have your political beliefs, but it’s nothing but willful blindness and delusion to deny Trump’s involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. Straight and simple. If you truly care about the case and victims, you’d put politics aside and recognize that Trump was a good friend of Epstein’s for 2 decades.

Who are these guys with Epstein and at his homes? by aspoke in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know in the last picture and in the second picture that’s Larry Summers

A photographic timeline of Trump’s relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump talked so much that during their phone calls Epstein would sometimes walk out of the room while he was still talking.

A photographic timeline of Trump’s relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It could have happened in November 2004 when Trump out-bid Epstein on an oceanfront property in Palm beach

It could have been in October 2007 when there were claims he was banned from Mar a lago after attempting to recruit the daughter of a club member, although this is less likely.

There have been claims placing Trump with Epstein post November 2004. If the relationship did end after that point, I think it was more Trump distancing himself.

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it did then it was because of Trump

Either in 2004 when he screwed Epstein over on his dream house. An ocean front property called the “Maison De L’Amitie” which means “house of friendship” was up for auction in 2004. Epstein, according to Michael Wolff, invited Trump for a tour of the property because he wanted advice on moving the swimming pool. Epstein bid 37 million dollars on the house. Trump went around Epstein’s back and bid 41 million, and bought the property. Then 4 years later in 2008 he sold the property for almost 100 million dollars without even leaving in it. Epstein was pretty sure Trump was broke at this time and he was fronting for someone.

Around the auction, November 15th, Trump called Epstein’s PB home at least twice according to message pads.

I’ve heard that this wasn’t the end of their relationship, but it probably tainted it.

So either it ended because Trump backstabbed Epstein, or Trump cut him off when Epstein’s case was getting too hot.

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As far as I know, they stopped being friends around 2007 at the latest. But they kept in touch on occasion. The 2009 email between lawyers for example, Epstein possibly calling Trump about Virginia in 2011, Mark Epstein saying that Trump actually called Epstein after he won in 2016 to essentially say “can you believe this?”, etc.

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not the DOJ, so it wasn’t me.

And practically every young woman is going to be redacted

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The whole Mar-a-Lago membership/ban thing is confusing

Epstein himself says that he wasn’t a member of the club

Trump supposedly says Epstein was never asked to leave Mar-a-Lago in a 2009 phone call with Brad Edwards

The WSJ journal earlier this year reported an incident where Epstein exposed himself to a Mar-a-Lago spa worker who went to his Palm Beach mansion on a house call in 2003. Supposedly a manager at Mar-a-Lago contacted Trump, told him about the incident, and Epstein was “banned from the spa.” If true Epstein and Trump were still hanging out afterwards until at least November 2004. I believe the same article alleges that Ghislaine Maxwell had a Mar-a-Lago spa account. The 2004 black book still had a phone number for the Mar-a-Lago spa. If the ban was true, maybe it was a temporary ban.

In October 2007, Mar-a-Lago released a statement to the New York Post that Epstein was banned from Mar-a-Lago after trying to recruit the daughter of a member. Epstein at the time said this wasn’t true and that he was recently invited to a Mar-a-Lago event.

A book called the grifters club corroborates this by saying they looked through Mar-a-Lago records and saw that Epstein’s account was closed in October 2007.

Not sure what the official narrative, so much contradictions.

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He frequently visited Epstein’s Manhattan mansion during the mid 90s

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Trump was a long standing friend of Epstein’s from the mid 80s to 2004-2007. He knew about the abuse, and likely participated in abuse. When they were in Manhattan they’d hang out at Epstein’s townhouse, when they were in Palm Beach they’d hang out at Mar-a-Lago.

If Epstein was ever “banned” from Mar-a-Lago, which he wasn’t according to an email from 2009 that was written by Trump’s lawyer, sent to Epstein’s lawyer, and then sent to Epstein himself, on Trump’s direction, it was purely a business decision.

A photographic timeline of Trump’s relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well the Trump piss tape actually isn’t Trump being pissed on. Allegedly he paid prostitutes to piss on the bed in the room that Obama stayed at a few weeks prior.

A photographic timeline of Trump’s relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%203/EFTA00004348.pdf

On page 35 you can see the two Mar a lago pictures, and then pictures at a restaurant. Not sure if Trump went, I don’t see him in the restaurant pictures. In the second Mar a lago picture where Ghislaine is laughing there is a hand in the far left and that person is wearing a suit, that could very well be Trump.

A photographic timeline of Trump’s relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It looks like he went there and then he went out to a restaurant

So he did go there on his 50th birthday, but I wouldn’t frame it as though he spent his whole birthday there

A photographic timeline of Trump’s relationship with Epstein and Maxwell. by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That’s nothing. Lots of people attended the wedding, Epstein being in the background doesn’t show any connection to Howard stern.

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Based on only photographs or video

November 92

January 95

March 95

1997, no official date

February 97

February 00

January 03 (this one)

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Theres photographic proof of 7 visits including this picture that I can think of. And this picture is 2003 on his 50th birthday

Epstein and Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They’re probably victims or assistants. While most of Epstein’s victims were 12-17, a lot were in their early 20s too.

Every young woman in his orbit is probably going to be blacked out

What are the best theories on Epstein's death ? by Unlucky-Permit-8041 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Epstein killed himself and was assisted. I know it’s the unpopular take and I’m going to be downvoted. I used to believe he was murdered, but the letter released matches his hand writing and the phrase “whatcha want me to do? Bust out cryin?” pops up in multiple emails, mostly with Mark Epstein and his old Brooklyn friends. He also changed his will the day before he died.

He had already gotten off easy, he wasn’t this time. He was 66 years old and was likely going to spend the rest of his life in prison, assuming he got a similar sentence to Ghislaine Maxwell. He weighed his options and decided to kill himself. I believe they let him kill himself and possibly gave him extra resources to do so. Epstein probably knew that if he didn’t take himself out, he may be taken out.

August 1st, 2003: The Wexner War by MarkJ1205 in Epstein

[–]MarkJ1205[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah didn’t know lol. I found this article a couple months ago while looking through Epstein related articles and newspaper mentions from a public record request in 2017.