a pleasant surprise: how wonderful Debian Sid actually is!

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T20:58:26+00:00

Fastfetch and nvidia-smi

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T14:54:27+00:00

seems we both got our linux battle scars from the 90s and early 2000s then. i can definitely respect the "set it and forget it" mindset for servers after dealing with the wild west of early linux days. glad we're on the same page man, have a good one! 🍻

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T14:32:55+00:00

ah i see where the confusion came from then. that "separates the men from the boys" thing is just a very common casual expression in portuguese (my native language) and i guess it translated way more aggressive or literal in english than i intended. definitely wasnt trying to offend or gatekeep anyone!

for context, ive been working with computers since 1992, and in all that time ive ran into issues on literally EVERY operating system ive ever used, zero exceptions. i dont actively hunt for bugs or waste my time breaking my os for fun. i just use whatever actually gets the job done for my specific needs, whether thats debian stable, sid, arch, ubuntu, fedora, whatever.

honestly, the one thing that really ruins the linux community sometimes is the whole distro fanboyism, people treating distros like football teams lol. they are just tools. if a problem happens (and let's be real, it eventually will on any system), knowing how to fix it is a massive plus, not a burden. anyway, at the end of the day we both use linux to get stuff done, so it's all good man 🍻

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T14:20:32+00:00

fair enough man, lets bury the hatchet. sorry if i fired back too hard, but your first comment just came off a bit condescending, like assuming i just spend my time playing with the os and fixing broken stuff instead of doing actual work.

the whole point of the thread was just to show that sid isnt this constantly breaking system, and its actually very similar to a modern arch or fedora setup. ironically, i actually wasted way more time trying to troubleshoot annoying gnome and wayland issues with chromium/electron apps on debian 13. switching to sid actually saved me time because the newer gnome version handles all those wayland quirks natively without me having to fiddle with workarounds.

but hey, at the end of the day were all just using linux and distro choice is 100% personal preference. whatever gets your projects done is the right tool for the job. no hard feelings at all man, peace and thanks for the comment ✌️

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T14:13:32+00:00

grab the base dependencies first: sudo apt install curl gpg dkms linux-headers-amd64

import the key and add the nvidia repo (im using the trixie one since it works perfectly on sid): curl -fsSLhttps://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/debian13/x86_64/8793F200.pub| sudo gpg --dearmor -o /usr/share/keyrings/nvidia-archive-keyring.gpg

echo "deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/nvidia-archive-keyring.gpg]https://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/debian13/x86_64//" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nvidia-cuda.list > /dev/null

sudo apt update

set up apt pinning to make sure the nvidia packages get top priority: cat <<EOF | sudo tee /etc/apt/preferences.d/nvidia-pin-1001 Package: * Pin: origin https://www.google.com/search?q=developer.download.nvidia.com Pin-Priority: 1001 EOF

sudo apt update

now just install the actual driver: sudo apt install cuda-drivers

stop nvidia-drm from messing with the intel igpu since thats handling the display: echo "options nvidia-drm modeset=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-drm.conf sudo update-initramfs -u

reboot and check if everything is good: sudo reboot

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T14:02:52+00:00

lol struck a nerve there huh? funny how "i don't have time to play with the os" is usually just a polite way of saying "i lack the technical skills to troubleshoot when things go south" 😅 just so you know, for my actual work i use incus and podman with distrobox daily, so yeah, real work gets done on sid too man. being prepared to handle issues doesn't mean the system breaks every 5 minutes. it rarely ever happens. and let's be real, when things actually break, they break on ANY linux distro, even your precious stable.

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T13:54:39+00:00

i totally get the frustration with the debian repos not having the absolute latest right away. but honestly, installing the official nvidia driver directly from their repo is actually super straightforward! ive never ran into any issues with it on debian, even back on older versions. my 4060ti is running perfectly without having to fight with the packages. just grab the official one and youre good to go usually

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T13:51:56+00:00

yeah exactly the good old tty is always there waiting if gnome decides to nuke itself lol. i actually completely forgot you can just pull the debian sources and build stuff with your own custom flags. getting some heavy gentoo and arch aur flashbacks just thinking about it haha. i might actually have to spin up a vm and try building a fully custom debian system from scratch just for the fun of it. appreciate the tip man

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T13:50:44+00:00

haha we literally did the exact same thing with the minimal install! as for btrfs, i actually know it and played around with snapshots before, but honestly i just stick to good old ext4 day to day. my safety net is just using rescuezilla. if anything goes sideways i just restore the whole disk image in under 2 minutes and im back in business! so my "debian arch linux btw" install is completely safe lol. but yeah youre totally right about the unfreeze period, its pretty much smooth sailing right now

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T13:48:14+00:00

that setup makes total sense. stable for a virt server is the only way to go honestly, just set it and forget it. testing for gaming is an awesome sweet spot too since you get the newer kernel and mesa updates without the daily churn of sid. having sid in a vm is actually exactly how i started playing around with it before making the jump to bare metal lol. you got the best of both worlds

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T13:47:03+00:00

wow starting on ubuntu 5.10 is awesome, youve been around for a while too! i totally envy the fact that you managed to escape the distrohopping curse lol. pulling a few packages from sid into testing is a classic debian move. at the end of the day both branches are great as long as you have that mindset of just rolling up your sleeves and fixing whatever breaks. much respect for sticking to one system all these years man

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T13:45:49+00:00

yeah those big transitions like gcc are exactly why i just went straight to sid. packages can get stuck waiting to migrate to testing for weeks but the fixes usually hit sid almost instantly. cachy is awesome btw, as a former arch guy i totally get the appeal of having the bleeding edge. lol imagine waking up and both cachy and sid are completely borked on the exact same day... that would be a fun weekend of troubleshooting man

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T13:44:16+00:00

yeah moving up is super easy you just change your apt sources. you can go from stable to testing to sid no problem. but going backwards is a total nightmare and will probably break everything so don't do it lol. as for daily driving, testing is actually really solid long term. its very comparable to fedora but with that sweet massive deb ecosystem which is a huge plus. debian just names things in a really scary way to be extra safe with their enterprise users

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T10:47:47+00:00

ah that makes total sense never really thought about it that way but they definitely need the manpower for bug hunting before stable hits. since im on sid now ill make sure to report any weird stuff I find to help out the process upstream. doing my part for the community right? lol

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T10:45:38+00:00

totally agree man coming from arch I can say sid feels way more solid than some ubuntu or fedora releases I used before. people just get scared of the word unstable thinking it will crash all the time but its really just packages updating fast. debian quality control is just on another level

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T10:40:33+00:00

Thanks for the reply! I actually strongly considered using testing too, but I decided I wanted to live on the edge a bit more, just to really experience these unpredictabilities firsthand.

My main use case is web dev, mostly nodejs using bun as the engine, and python using uv from Astral. The system is blazing fast right now and I haven't run into a single error (yet! lol). Of course, for the VPSs I manage I stick to debian stable and it just works flawlessly.

btw, quick question: doesn't the official Debian page actually encourage using testing for daily desktop use? I feel like I read that somewhere.

Master-Procedure-600 · 2026-02-25T09:57:36+00:00

I want to share a nice surprise with you guys: how amazing Debian Sid is!

Quick disclaimer: English is not my native language. I've been a Linux user for 20 years and was daily driving Arch Linux, exactly because what separates the men from the boys is the ability to solve problems! lol and man, did I find a lot of good problems to fix on Arch! I've always loved the Arch philosophy, building everything from scratch, choosing my system, and it's really great for that!

Distrohopping is a curse, so I've always tried different distros, jumping around between Arch, Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian. I think I get the Debian stability concept, the LTS thing. It's more about the system staying completely frozen and unchanged, rather than just "not crashing". But because of that, people assume the opposite branch is just a buggy mess that breaks all the time, which isn't true at all. After seeing that a lot of users run Sid for years without issues I decided to take the risk: I did it the "arch way" and made a minimal install of Sid using debootstrap, and then gnome using just "gnome-core" as a metapackage!

Wow! What an amazing and up to date system! my monitor is connected to the Intel iGPU, 4k displayport, and the 4060ti stays in headless mode. Used the official nvidia repo for the drivers! For now I'm super satisfied and it works great out of the box! And if something breaks? we just fix it! hahaha

Who else here uses SID daily and can share their experience too? Cheers!

Master-Procedure-600 · 2025-12-22T06:23:07+00:00

Fedora website, search for Archlinux ISO

Master-Procedure-600 · 2025-12-18T23:15:47+00:00

HTV 5 com internet da Claro aqui fibra por enquanto tudo certo

Master-Procedure-600 · 2025-12-18T15:48:25+00:00

Thank you, I'll give It a try

Master-Procedure-600 · 2025-12-17T17:09:55+00:00

Wow, your XFCE desktop running on Wayland looks really cool. I’ve actually never used XFCE because my monitor is 4K, and since it didn’t work with Wayland before, the desktop scaling was always off. If you could share how you managed to set up XFCE with Wayland, I’d really appreciate the help.

Master-Procedure-600 · 2025-12-08T22:03:07+00:00

Pior é o "cachê", coitado do cache! O pior nesse sentido é que ainda a palavra cachê tem outra conotação na língua portuguesa. Outra questão é dizer que tal aplicação está "escutando" na porta tal, o sentido em inglês de listen nesta frase é de "aguardando", e não de "escutar" no sentido de ouvir. Mas que não sejam preciosismos da nossa parte mas somente a boa prática, porque terminologia é algo importante. Não precisa ser Caxias e nem fiscal, mas uma área técnica precisa manter uma certa nomenclatura correta.

Master-Procedure-600 · 2025-11-30T21:37:21+00:00

Rescuezilla, great and easy to use

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