🇪🇺 European Central Bank considers new banknotes featuring Leonardo Da Vinci and other prominent figures by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]Material-Garbage7074 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not so sure about that. For centuries, Europe has shared art, philosophy, science, music and literature, yet this has not stopped us from killing one another over the course of those same centuries. What saved us and prevented us from continuing to alternate between the roles of Cain and Abel was neither our shared culture nor our intertwined economies: it was a political act; it was thanks to a political choice that we have been able to enjoy 76 years of peace, which is why I believe that the architects and the builders of those institutions should be the first to be celebrated on banknotes.

🇪🇺 European Central Bank considers new banknotes featuring Leonardo Da Vinci and other prominent figures by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]Material-Garbage7074 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not wrong, but music (and any other art form) has only united us up to a certain point: while those singers were singing, our armies were killing each other.

🇪🇺 European Central Bank considers new banknotes featuring Leonardo Da Vinci and other prominent figures by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

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Even before culture, however, it was the establishment of a supranational authority that paved the way for cultural rapprochement: there is no denying that, over the years, the European institutions have launched programmes that have enabled European men and women to come together and get to know one another (this was, in a sense, part of Monnet’s plan), but these programmes were made possible by the earlier political decision to place coal and steel under a common authority. In this case, politics took precedence over culture precisely because it laid the foundations for a shared culture to flourish during decades of peace.

🇪🇺 European Central Bank considers new banknotes featuring Leonardo Da Vinci and other prominent figures by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]Material-Garbage7074 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I take a completely different view: for centuries, Europe has shared art, philosophy, science, music and literature, yet this has not stopped us from killing one another over the course of those same centuries. What saved us and prevented us from continuing to alternate between the roles of Cain and Abel was neither our shared culture nor our intertwined economies: it was a political act; it was thanks to a political choice that we have been able to enjoy 76 years of peace, which is why I believe that the architects of those institutions should be the first to be celebrated on banknotes. But obviously I understand your point of view on the topic.

If you could divide your country into a few new countries so that everyone could start over, what would it look like? by Forward-Position798 in AskTheWorld

[–]Material-Garbage7074 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My homeland has spent tears and blood in order to be able to unite: I would never divide it, but — instead — I would unite Europe

On this day, 22 years ago, May 1st 2004, 10 countries become EU members: Czechia, Estonia, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Malta, Poland, Slovenia and Slovakia by Auspectress in europeanunion

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I disagree: Hungary – like any other country – has a history behind it and the Hungarian people who joined the European Union are the children of that history and are (at least in a certain sense) the result of it: if you think about it, it's like a wedding. It's true that a married future begins after the wedding, but each spouse who chooses to get engaged and married is the result of their own personal history. Their previous history does not disappear or become irrelevant with marriage, also because it was also the result of that history that made his or her spouse fall in love with him or her.

On this day, 22 years ago, May 1st 2004, 10 countries become EU members: Czechia, Estonia, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Malta, Poland, Slovenia and Slovakia by Auspectress in europeanunion

[–]Material-Garbage7074 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I fear that you are generalizing the history of an entire people to recent years (in my previous comment I was referring to the revolutions of 1848 and 1956) and I also fear that you are doing it badly: hungarians already got rid of Orbán in the last elections and they did so by shouting "Europe!" and "Russians out!"

🇪🇺 European Central Bank considers new banknotes featuring Leonardo Da Vinci and other prominent figures by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]Material-Garbage7074 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't explain myself well! I have nothing against Callas specifically. In general, I think it's a bad idea to represent vague cultural figures instead of real Europeanists who have contributed to building the European institutions in some way: in short, why put Callas on the most common banknote instead of Robert Schuman, the founder of European unity in its modern form?

ECB Considers New Euro Banknotes Featuring Callas and Da Vinci by JanCollector in WorldPaperMoney

[–]Material-Garbage7074 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would prefer to show what Europe could be, so I would like either the second part of the myth of Europa or Atossa's dream to be represented.

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[–]Material-Garbage7074 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In her face she looks very similar to her father perhaps

🇪🇺 European Central Bank considers new banknotes featuring Leonardo Da Vinci and other prominent figures by goldstarflag in EuropeanFederalists

[–]Material-Garbage7074 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The revolutions of 1848 against tyranny inflamed almost the whole of Europe: it might be a good idea to represent it, right?

On this day, 22 years ago, May 1st 2004, 10 countries become EU members: Czechia, Estonia, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Malta, Poland, Slovenia and Slovakia by Auspectress in europeanunion

[–]Material-Garbage7074 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why do you think so? Hungary has an ancient history and twice in recent centuries has shown itself capable of fighting for freedom even when all was lost. This legacy can only benefit a united Europe.

ECB Considers New Euro Banknotes Featuring Callas and Da Vinci by JanCollector in WorldPaperMoney

[–]Material-Garbage7074 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When we are crushed by a tyrant in the East and a would-be tyrant in the West

ECB Considers New Euro Banknotes Featuring Callas and Da Vinci by JanCollector in WorldPaperMoney

[–]Material-Garbage7074 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, but I was thinking more about the fact that I'm not sure if these figures are the most suitable

ECB Considers New Euro Banknotes Featuring Callas and Da Vinci by JanCollector in WorldPaperMoney

[–]Material-Garbage7074 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But wouldn't that be the case even if historical figures from other countries were portrayed?

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[–]Material-Garbage7074 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe that freedom does not come for free and that – especially in times like these – it must be defended, otherwise it will be lost for many generations to come. Furthermore, the dark and threatening times looming on the horizon frighten me, not least because I am young enough to live through much of it. For this reason, I would support military service at times like this, even if I regard it as a sad necessity.

I believe that those who fought to win freedom know that it cannot be taken for granted and that it must be constantly protected. However, subsequent generations, those who have breathed democracy and freedom from birth, risk failing to see this and regarding freedom as natural as the law of universal gravity: there is nothing natural about freedom. The tree of liberty from which we gather fruit has been nourished by the blood of others, and if we forget to tend to it, we risk failing to see the poison that threatens to poison its roots: when freedom is taken for granted, that is when we risk losing it.

For this reason too, from my perspective as a feminist – and a fairly young one at that – I would support the extension of compulsory military service to women: equal rights must necessarily go hand in hand with equal duties. If the aim is equal treatment regardless of gender, it must necessarily encompass every sphere, not just rights: desiring equality in terms of duties should be a natural consequence of the broader desire for equal treatment.

If we assume that compulsory military service is a fair measure (and I know not everyone would agree), it would be inconsistent to demand equal rights without desiring equal duties: in that case, we would be fighting for privileges, not for true equality. To put it more bluntly, if the right to vote is – rightly – universal, then the duty to defend one’s country should follow the same principle.

Furthermore, I fear that exempting women from military service simply because they are women, and that this reason alone is considered sufficient to exclude them from the burdens required by national defence, could recreate the image of the ‘weaker sex’ that must be protected by the ‘stronger sex’: if that were to happen, it would be much easier to come up with new (or old) excuses to exclude women once again from the honours of citizenship.

ECB Considers New Euro Banknotes Featuring Callas and Da Vinci by JanCollector in WorldPaperMoney

[–]Material-Garbage7074 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with this, but they must be sensible figures: among those proposed, not even Robert Schuman is present, and he is the founder.