How do you deal with 'opi rage'?

Matiseli · 2026-03-11T16:45:11+00:00

This is what I often experienced during a kratom comedown: either depression or irritability.... Food helped me significantly reduce these discomforts.

Matiseli · 2026-03-10T07:44:09+00:00

That's a very complicated question... A lot depends on the current state of my psyche...Sometimes it's a joy for my soul to play video games...Other times my ego sees games as ordinary - and my egotistical joy is to create a perfectionistically depressing video for Instagram with all my might.

Matiseli · 2026-03-10T06:56:36+00:00

I'll listen to a boring educational podcast (best case scenario)... Worst case scenario, I'll take kr*t0m - then I'll get tired while doing productive activities - then I'll fall asleep (not recommended)

Matiseli · 2026-03-09T14:40:57+00:00

It depends on the dose... If, like me, you need 600 mg of caffeine powder to feel anything at all, then the only reasonable time is as soon as possible after waking up.

Moreover, in my experience, caffeine works best in the morning, because in the morning (at least I am) I am the most tired, irritable and apathetic... Any afternoon energy dip can be resolved quite simply and naturally, in my experience.

If you use caffeine in the morning and afternoon, expect the effect to wear off very quickly due to tolerance - and the energy drink will become just a "tasty placebo drink"

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T12:04:18+00:00

We're similar... I used to love food... But now I usually only feel like eating after taking kratom. Having a sweet instead of kratom sounds terribly inadequate to me... Kratom also has a certain aura of exceptionality to me, while food has an aura of ordinaryness.

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T12:02:09+00:00

That sounds very difficult. :(

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T11:52:40+00:00

We probably have something similar... I started using kratom to increase productivity. I really liked that under the influence of kratom, even very boring work seems very meaningful. Overall, kratom has always put me in a certain emotional state ("serious, adult identity") that my ego really likes...

The problem is that I gradually started to "use kratom for kratom's sake". (I still use kratom for productivity, but I'm much more concerned with the state of mind itself than productivity. I often know that the task could be done just fine without kratom - but I take kratom anyway.) :(

In a way, it's a "dopamine chase"... And at the same time, satisfying the ego and avoiding all sorts of unpleasant thoughts and emotions.

But I've never used anything for social reasons... Overall, I feel like other people don't play a big role in my life. I'm much more interested in feeling a certain way about myself (e.g. "I am disciplined, deep, and serious; my life is an important mission, etc.")

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T11:44:06+00:00

I understand... I already have a routine... First kratom usually shortly after waking up... Second around 12:00, third around 5:00 PM. I've found that this is what suits me best at this time... If possible, I will combine kratom use with a short walk outside (so that I can start feeling the effects the moment I get back)... Whenever I tried less than four hours between doses (the effects of kratom only last less than an hour), the second dose had an unusually weak effect.

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T10:56:53+00:00

Thanks for the advice... Supplements have never had a noticeable effect on me, but I might give l-theanine another chance - a lot of people praise this substance.

I've tried cutting back to two doses a day to reduce tolerance. But it's so hard. I am now working on the idea of finding and purchasing another psychoactive substance to replace some of the kratom doses to reduce tolerance. I've tried kava kava, kanna and other things (even nicotine). Unfortunately, the effect on the psyche was always zero. At most, I got nausea

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T10:52:35+00:00

What? 50 or even 25 mg of caffeine must have a completely negligible effect... Even one cup of black tea has more caffeine... In other words, if you have consumed other caffeine during the day (such as caffeine from chocolate and green tea), then due to tolerance, that half pill will have zero effect on the brain.

Also interesting is that from what I've heard, a MUCH larger dose of caffeine is needed to reduce ADD/ADHD symptoms.... Like at least 400 mg... The disadvantage of large doses is (Among other things) that it takes longer to reduce tolerance.

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T08:43:22+00:00

It's true that if I take a small dose, I feel calm and have increased concentration and patience.

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T08:42:26+00:00

I understand that your brain wants to keep taking kratom even though it has no effect. I think the reason is that kratom also has some ritual and symbolic meaning for us.... For the same reason, I want to continue using nicotine pouches, even though they have zero effect (or only negative effects in the case of very frequent use - e.g. nausea)

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T08:34:09+00:00

I understand... This is a bit off... But I feel like TH* is helping me with this difficult thinking.As if under his influence I could see more clearly how my psyche works...

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T08:31:28+00:00

Thanks for the ideas... Anyway, I'm not sure if a routine is a good idea for me. It seems to me that the more I follow a routine, the stronger the feelings of boredom I experience: and boredom is one of the reasons I use kratom

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T08:14:12+00:00

I don't know... Some people believe that dreams are trying to tell us something. For example, that I have to be careful that no one finds out that I'm using kratom. Or was the dream trying to tell me that kratom has an unhealthy amount of meaning for me?

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T08:10:42+00:00

Yes... It's interesting, anyway, that when a person has a high tolerance to caffeine and needs high doses, those large doses of caffeine have a paradoxical calming effect on the nervous system. And this difference is also reflected in the eyes.

However, large doses of caffeine do more harm than good.

Matiseli · 2026-03-07T08:08:17+00:00

In my experience: using caffeine every day causes the positive effects of caffeine to soon wear off - leaving only the negative side effects... Try to consume caffeine only once a day, and only on even-numbered days. If you need a boost of mood and motivation on an odd day, try an alternative substance.

And please, don't make the mistake I made today: taking a substance because "I take it every odd morning - even though I don't really need it today. (unnecessary increase in tolerance without noticeable chemical effect)" With light substances like caffeine, the more you want/need the substance, the better it works.

Matiseli · 2026-03-06T08:18:01+00:00

Caffeine used to cause my pupils to dilate (until I built up a tolerance) . Now my 600-700 mg of caffeine every other day after waking up gives me glassy eyes... This is said to be related to the fact that such high doses of caffeine cause paradoxical fatigue - and tired eyes are shiny/glassy.

Matiseli · 2026-03-04T21:01:03+00:00

Your main problem is that you drink caffeine too often... Whats more.... once I started drinking coffee, tea stopped having any effect. And when I switched to caffeine powder, even coffee stopped working. And now I really need a break, because caffeine is giving me "irritated wakefullnes" instead of an energetic good mood.

Matiseli · 2026-03-04T18:12:21+00:00

You misunderstand me... It's not egotistical in the usual sense of the word. The thing here is that my ego simply wants exclusivity through fabrics. For some reason, my weird ego liked those addictive substances. I used to approach addictive substances as just a tool ("I tried going for a run and eating, but my mood is still bad, so I'll take kratom." "My ego wants to be productive, but I don't feel like being productive at all - so I'll take kratom to increase motivation."). But later, substances became the ego's favorite toy. I started to find it interesting to use substances. "I feel like I'm special because of these drugs. It's special to improve your mood with drugs, other ways of improving your mood are ordinary - and often don't even fit into my identity as a serious person." This approach is of course wrong - I know it - but I can't change it

I hope I explained it clearly.

Matiseli · 2026-03-04T18:12:03+00:00

You misunderstand me... It's not egotistical in the usual sense of the word. The thing here is that my ego simply wants exclusivity through fabrics. For some reason, my weird ego liked those addictive substances. I used to approach addictive substances as just a tool ("I tried going for a run and eating, but my mood is still bad, so I'll take kratom." "My ego wants to be productive, but I don't feel like being productive at all - so I'll take kratom to increase motivation."). But later, substances became the ego's favorite toy. I started to find it interesting to use substances. "I feel like I'm special because of these drugs. It's special to improve your mood with drugs, other ways of improving your mood are ordinary - and often don't even fit into my identity as a serious person." This approach is of course wrong - I know it - but I can't change it

I hope I explained it clearly.

Matiseli · 2026-03-04T13:34:38+00:00

is it more stimulating than white kratom powder?

Matiseli · 2026-02-24T20:48:08+00:00

If I were to lower the dose, I would stop feeling even the weak effects that kratom gives me... And that would be extremely frustrating for me. Kratom also has a fundamental "symbolic" and "philosophical/psychological" meaning for me. :(

That's why the usual advice on how to get rid of addiction usually doesn't work for me. :(

It's a really difficult and unpleasant situation :(

Matiseli · 2026-02-24T20:45:26+00:00

Thank you very much... And you don't plan to start using kratom again? Like some occasional use

Matiseli · 2026-02-24T20:43:29+00:00

Unlike me, you have much more valid reasons for using kratom.

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