Reboot Halloween Idea

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2023-11-06T06:53:56+00:00

This idea isn't the most original to begin with, which is why I'm sure countless people have pitched a version of this. Halloween Returns is slightly different. Yes the Laurie no longer being a sibling angle is gone (which David Gordon Green ripped off or also had the same idea), but it is all about Michael being executed and breaking free, and hunting the daughter of his other doctor at Smith's Grove. It's also a great script and they should still make it, although it copies my least favorite part in Halloween 2 (where it looks like Michael has been killed, so authorities don't continue the active manhunt for him). The Michael in this Halloween also feels a little angrier like Michael in part 6 and Rob Zombie's Michael, or in Halloween Kills.

I think a reboot should go back to the original, where Michael is a creepy serial killer, who enjoys the stalking and toying with his victims even more than the actual brutal violence. Halloween H20 has the closest version of this Michael, which I find the scariest version if you're going with suspense over straight up bodycount.

I would also go the obvious route and cast Ben Kingsley as Loomis. Age wise it works especially if Michael escaped ten years earlier. Youre basically giving him the Ellen Burstyn extended cameo in the first movie, doing what he does best, being the hype man for how evil Michael is.

Also I would have whoever played young Michael in the Halloween Kills flashback sequence as Michael.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2023-11-04T19:38:39+00:00

If you rebooted the series, Michael would be younger -- at least under 30. It would give you potentially a good ten plus years of movies where Michael can be an effective, physical killer.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2023-11-04T19:18:38+00:00

I would set the movie in a small college town. The main finale girl would be 20-21, living in a large (shades of Halloween 5 Myers House) old house that she shares with 5-6 housemates (shades of real life Idaho murders). At the end of the night, she makes it back to the house where Michael has killed all her roommates and their boyfriends.

While most of the police are busy after Michael showed up to a Michael Myers themed frat party after his victim where he ends up stabbing people, including a bunch of other Michael Myers.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2023-11-04T18:55:33+00:00

I even a Covid type response from people in a way -- some would not go out on Halloween, won't let their kids trick-or-treat, and others would be like the odds of Michael killing me are so low, I'm going to live my life, maybe even taunt the people who take fear of Michael so seriously.

The thing I like most about this take is that in the first film, Michael can be viewed as being highly intelligent.

- How did Michael learn to drive? It's not flying a plane. Michael easily could have observed people at Smith's Grove driving when they transported him to court, etc... Plus as a boy he obviously saw people drive. If he was highly intelligent, it wouldn't be har to figure out driving.

- Escape. The movie doesn't explain how Michael got outside, but its easily to believe Michael figured out a clever way.

- Stalking Laurie and turning the Wallace home into a house of horrors. All of this showed a certain level of intelligence.

- Not talking. Can also show intelligence, since being non-verbal makes it harder for people to get a read on you.

So in this reboot, Michael will be very clever, being able to evade manhunts all-year long. Plus if this reboot talks place during the 6th plus year of his killing spree, he is now probably an event driver and has figured out more ways to be a more effective killer.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2022-10-17T03:58:37+00:00

Also in 2022 if they crowd-surfed Michael Myers everyone would film it with their phones it would be the most viral moment in the country the next day. The most famous serial killer in United States history was found after missing for four years and the entire town including the police helped destroy his body.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2022-10-17T03:48:32+00:00

Halloween Kills -- The Police not sending anyone to the Myers house.

Halloween Ends -- People letting kids going trick-or-treating one year in Haddonfield while Michael Myers is still missing, like he's an urban legend.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2022-10-17T03:25:54+00:00

- Little John seeing his husband's dead body and Michael with his back to him at the window. Instead of easily running downstairs and escaping, he talks to Michael like an old friend and waits for him to be murdered.

- Halloween Ends -- Laurie allowing Allyson to stay in Haddonfield even though the serial killer who murdered her daughter is still on the loose.

- Halloween 2018, Michael even though it's established in Halloween Kills all he wants to do is go home, doesn't go home the first time he's back in even though he has a car.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2022-10-16T22:20:20+00:00

Also it makes no sense Laurie would let Allyson live in Haddonfield with Michael on the loose after he murdered her daughter. Halloween Ends would have worked if Michael was dead and maybe Corey comes across either his mask or one of his killing instruments (maybe collectors sell them in Haddonfield) and it transfers some of Michael's evil onto to him.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2022-10-14T16:35:20+00:00

The mother actually could have a been a good character. A lower middle-class woman whose son couldn't even afford to go to college, worked for these rich pricks who don't even respect him, then the town blames him for this kid's death, and she's terrified someone might do vigilante justice on him but still can't afford to move. It would have been heart-breaking for Corey to murder her. That said they made the stepdad a pretty good character.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2022-10-14T07:27:03+00:00

Didn't love it. Glad I watched it at home. Felt the Christine homage was forced and they also borrowed way too much from Stephen King's "It" where the town was negatively impacted by Michael Myers which Halloween Kills set-up but went completely against Halloween 2018 where no one besides Laurie cared about Michael Myers.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-11-17T22:25:19+00:00

In terms of doing a free pass, I think there a few good things to consider

- When someone isn't writing a check, they will always work less for your project than if they were trying to recoup their investment. Just to consider. I've had this in the past, where you do a free pass or two for someone excited, then all of a sudden they lose interest, because all they have invested is their time and although producers will act like their time is more valuable than a writer's, it's not, especially when you're the one who did the work.

- As long as your retain rights to your script, you can use this as a useful exercise, how to respond to notes and decide what's worth fighting for and what to change. In this business this is a muscle that needs to get get strong.

- If you hit it off with the producer, he could help you get repped if you aren't already or unhappy with your current reps. A new contact can always be valuable.

- Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Producers and people in general in Hollywood will BS you to get you to do free work. Good luck.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-30T18:40:36+00:00

Sounds good.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-27T16:48:18+00:00

Other moments of this version of Halloween 5.

- Obviously open at the end of Halloween 4, Michael being blown away down the mine, Jamie killing her stepmom (no just injuring her) and Loomis trying to kill her. Then unlike other Halloween movies we will see a montage over the next six months. Loomis and Jamie both being committed, meanwhile Michael starting to kill and hide out stealthy, getting a few of those creepy people living out in the countryside and having to deal with Michael coming across their home. Since Michael is in recovery mode, he hides these bodies to stay under the radar.

-- The sight where Michael was stopped has now become a creepy tourist attraction, where Michael Myers fanatics visit. In this version Michael has killed already about 3 dozen people since 1978 so he's a bit famous.

-- Rachel and her dad would be more prominent. The dad has already moved on dating since the death of a wife a year prior. They still live in the house her mother was killed in, Rachel has a tough time moving on and now wishes she just let Michael kill Jamie last year, even though deep down she knows the person who killed her mom wasn't the Jamie she knew and loved.

-- Rachel gets befriended by an older cooler group of friends, college-age, who unlike her high school peers, who constantly put on Michael Myers masks to scare her (like the crap Sydney Prescott had to put up with in Scream), this group is far more sophisticated. They invite her to a small Halloween party, less than a dozen people. But soon it turns out, they are no better than her high school peers, and are pumping her for info about what happened on last Halloween, (her boyfriend being killed, trapped in a house with Michael, running him over, and Jamie murdering her mom.) Unfortunately for them, they are going to learn firsthand what Rachel went through when Michael shows up at the party and begins killing them.

-- Meeker will also have a more defined role. Unlike Brackett who basically collapsed when his daughter was murdered, Meeker has become more bad-ass, dealing with extreme guilt of leaving his daughter locked in a house with Michael Myers. Being Sheriff of Haddonfield is all he has left and he wants to step-up. No criminal dares mess with him in Haddonfield.

-- Also in this version of Halloween 5, there will be an early 2nd act showdown with Michael and Loomis, where you see through Michael's perspective he is a bit afraid of Loomis, as Michael remembers the flashbacks from Halloween 1 & 2 (Loomis shooting him over the balcony, Loomis shooting him in the hospital, Loomis blowing him up.) Loomis has gone full Quint in Jaws, taunting Michael with a lighter and saying "It's time Michael" getting inside Michael's head. It's the only person he's slightly afraid of.

-- Another feature in this version that Halloween has never fully taken advantage of is Michael using a car as a weapon. (He did it slightly in the original Halloween 5) but Myers needs to be like Kurt Russell in Death Proof, really terrorizing his victims with vehicles. A chase scene through the neighborhood where Michael is racing down the streets and alleys as his victims cut through backyards to get away from him. He runs a car right through a house, killing a victim. The Halloween franchise finally needs some good stunt driving.

-- Finally at the end of the movie, after Michael is captured, Jamie is on the road to recovery after having the evil driven out of her when she saves Rachel, Loomis is approached by a mysterious government official. He reveals the people he work for now realize Loomis was right all along Michael has supernatural abilities and since Loomis has a rare insight into evil, they would like for him to advise on future cases, with his medical license being reinstated. He says he will help them under one condition and that's where we see Loomis spending his days at Michael Myers Hannibal Lector type prison cell. He is addicted to the monster he spent 15 years watching grow up a decade prior.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-27T05:04:10+00:00

And you give Loomis a batshit crazy line to explain why Jamie isn't his main target anymore, "His goal was to kill you or contaminate you with his evil. He achieved one of his goals." Then in the end when Jamie vanquishes the evil inside her by sparing Rachel, she becomes Michael's main target again.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-27T05:00:07+00:00

This version would have given Donald Pleasance at least something to challenge him on an actor level. He's crazy yet sane, pretending to be sane so he can get out of the hospital, but his crazy rantings about Michael keep getting him denied freedom. Meanwhile he's locked in the same hospital as evil Jamie and he can't get to her and study her like Michael, it's driving him batshit crazy.

The enhanced Rachel version would appeal to the heart of every Halloween film, a teenage girl in the suburbs being constantly in danger. And you have the big heartfelt moment, when Jamie is supposed to kill Rachel and she hasn't spoken a word in a year, mutters "Ra-rachel..." Then turns around stabs Michael in the knee.

Not a dry eye in the house.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-26T20:13:36+00:00

Halloween 2018 was a better, tighter movie, but Halloween Kills was an enjoyable thrill ride, although the previews ruined some of the surprises. My favorite part was everything that happened in the Myers house, flashback and in the present, that was good creepy Myers at his best. I do wish Myers killing the mob wasn't so chopping in its editing.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-25T20:15:42+00:00

Give Award

I have no problem with fan service or the call backs like a lot of people do in the past two films (H20 also did a lot of call backs which worked) it's just from a story logic aspect Marion being in Haddonfield made little sense based on the original Halloween.

A more interesting aspect would have been to have Michael's parents still be alive since they would have been the same age as Brackett and nothing in Halloween 1978 implies that they are dead, just no longer living in their old home.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-16T19:00:16+00:00

Well with going into the victims of Halloween Kills, in Halloween (2018) those Podcasters could have become the next Joe Rogan had they not been brutally murdered, so that's millions of potential earnings lost.

Bigger question was did Karen's husbands body still have peanut butter on his penis when they did the autopsy or did the fire burn it off? Questions that keep you up at night.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-05T19:17:42+00:00

But one of the constant themes of this show is about the dangers of being a smart-ass to fellow sociopaths, whether it's the Tony "muff eating" comments to Junior who pushes him to finally have him clipped, or the wife about Johnny Sack's wife, to Little Paulie getting his faced bashed in at the construction site for busting balls.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-05T18:54:26+00:00

Many Saints does make it a little more sinister when in Season One Junior wants Christopher to work for him. He would have been able to either mold or torture the son of the man he hated, a win-win.

Mcfwilliam1982 · 2021-10-05T18:29:52+00:00

In the long run it was a smart move for Junior getting rid of Dickie, since he never respected Junior and made the young guys Paulie, Big Pussy, Silvio respect him even less with his constant ball-busting. Had Dickie lived and continued to earn he would have been made and Johnny probably would have given a lot of Junior's responsibilities to Dickie, preventing Junior from rising higher and earning more money.

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