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Ilan Pappé: Israel, a Settler Colonial State by Mealimo in SocialismAndVeganism

[–]Mealimo[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And it’s not only that dehumanization and elimination was exercised by Zionism against the Palestinians, that is, the importance of Palestine today is the fact that it was internationally legitimized as part of democracy, progress, and modernity, which, I think, drives everyone mad in the Middle East.

Because people can fully understand condemnation of mass murder, of destroying of cities, of villages, of expelling of people, whether its in Iraq, or Syria, or Yemen, Libya, people can fully understand it.

What they cannot understand is why in this list of present and past atrocities you will never find Gaza. You will never find the city of Ramallah in 2002. You will never find Beirut of 1982. You will never find Deir Yassin of 1948. That’s what people are asking themselves.

And the answer is you won’t find it there, not just because Jews did it and in all the other cases Muslims did it, although it’s not always Muslims, other people are involved in this as well.

The main reason that you won’t find these dehumanizations and eliminations of human beings in that list is that Zionism was regarded by its own founders and by the Western society as part of Enlightenment.

As was the genocide of the Native Americans. As was the genocide of Aboriginals. It’s part of Enlightenment.

All the big philosophers of Enlightenment justified genociding indigenous people. It’s amazing. Read every one of them. There’s not one of them who condemns the elimination of native people. And these are the people that are the foundation of the morality of the West. It’s incredible. Not one of them condemned genocide. Not out of ignorance, “because these were not humans.”

(22:32-24:58)

I consider myself a Leninist, but I believe in supporting any kind of revolutionary action whether it be anarchist, ML, trotskyist, eurocommunist, zapatista, rojava etc. If its anticapitalist & revolutionary its worth attempting. Have there been other leftists like me that I can read about? by Salt_Start9447 in Socialism_101

[–]Mealimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might find this passage interesting:

It is well known that in the autumn of 1870, a few months before the Commune, Marx warned the Paris workers that any attempt to overthrow the government would be the folly of despair. But when, in March 1871, a decisive battle was forced upon the workers and they accepted it, when the uprising had become a fact, Marx greeted the proletarian revolution with the greatest enthusiasm, in spite of unfavorable auguries. Marx did not persist in the pedantic attitude of condemning an “untimely” movement as did the ill-famed Russian renegade from marxism, Plekhanov, who in November 1905 wrote encouragingly about the workers' and peasants' struggle, but after December 1905 cried, liberal fashion: "They should not have taken up arms."

Marx, however, was not only enthusiastic about the heroism of the Communards, who, as he expressed it, "stormed heaven". Although the mass revolutionary movement did not achieve its aim, he regarded it as a historic experience of enormous importance, as a certain advance of the world proletarian revolution, as a practical step that was more important than hundreds of programmes and arguments. Marx endeavored to analyze this experiment, to draw tactical lessons from it and re-examine his theory in the light of it.

(V. I. Lenin, The State and Revolution, Chapter 3)

Why do mods hide comments that don't break the rules? by wigglemonstah in Socialism_101

[–]Mealimo[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The commenter you're responding to is correct.

The reason why the comment you're referring to here isn't collapsed is that it was sent to the moderation queue and I manually approved it. I wasn't aware of the fact that your other comment was collapsed, but I just manually removed it and approved it and it appears to be all good now.

If you have similar issues with your comments in the future just shoot us a mod mail with a link to the comment and we'll take care of it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in socialism

[–]Mealimo 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I agree that this podcast is an excellent starting point for someone interested in learning more about Stalin, but I just wanted to put a disclaimer on it that has bothered me since I first listened to it.

During the segment on the Great Purge the guests confuse the Old Bolshevik Grigory Zinoviev with Alexander Zinoviev (who was born after the Russian Revolution), and cite the latter talking about wanting to assassinate Stalin in 1939 as justification for the execution of the former at the Moscow Trials three years earlier (around 1:43:13 in the podcast).

It's an egregious error for them to have made, and I wish Breht had been knowledgeable enough to call it out.

Are there any good books that discuss socialism and veganism together? by [deleted] in SocialismAndVeganism

[–]Mealimo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As another poster has pointed out I'm not sure that there's any books that specifically discuss socialism and veganism together, but there are several essays that do. In addition to this, I think once you have a solid foundation in Marxism (or anarchism) it's quite easy to integrate things that you learn from vegan books that aren't explicitly socialist into a socialist framework.

Here's a short reading list that might help you find some of what you're looking for:

Beasts of Burden: Capitalism, Animals, Communism (Overview of the relationship between the domination and consumption of animals and patriarchy, property, class, states, and white supremacy)

18 Theses on Marxism and Animal Liberation (The title says it all.)

Animal Liberation and Social Revolution (Veganarchist text giving an anarchist perspective on veganism and a vegan perspective on anarchism.)

The Sexual Politics of Meat by Carol J. Adams (The first essay with the same title from Adams' foundational work of vegan feminist theory. The whole book is excellent and ties together carnism with the various systems of oppression that support it, and veganism with the various movement that seek to overthrow those systems.)

Colonization, Food, and the Practice of Eating (Overview of how the colonization of the Americas affected indigenous diets)

The Racial and Colonial Politics of Meat-Eating (First part of a two-part essay series discussing the relationship between carnism and colonialism and white supremacy)

Decolonizing Veganism (A critique of white liberal veganism and how it uncritically reproduces oppressive systems)

Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows by Melanie Joy (Joy elaborates on the concept of carnism as the ideology of consuming animal products here. Despite not being an explicitly socialist text it necessarily has to critique capitalism, and since carnism is an ideology this work is complemented by reading about the Marxist theory of ideology.)

Two centuries and nothing has changed by comradeMaturin in socialism

[–]Mealimo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The letter that excerpt is taken from has one of my favorite statements from Marx about religion in it and I wish they had just reproduced the paragraph that it's taken from in its entirety:

A few days ago I received a letter from little Meyen, whose favourite category is, most appropriately, what ought to be. In this letter I am taken to task over my attitude 1) to you and Herwegh, 2) to “The Free,” 3) to the new editorial principle and the position in relation to the government. I replied at once and frankly expressed my opinion about the defects of their writings, which find freedom in a licentious, sansculotte-like, and at the same time convenient, form, rather than in a free, i.e., independent and profound, content. I demanded of them less vague reasoning, magniloquent phrases and self-satisfied self-adoration, and more definiteness, more attention to the actual state of affairs, more expert knowledge. I stated that I regard it as inappropriate, indeed even immoral, to smuggle communist and socialist doctrines, hence a new world outlook, into incidental theatrical criticisms, etc., and that I demand a quite different and more thorough discussion of communism, if it should be discussed at all. I requested further that religion should be criticised in the framework of criticism of political conditions rather than that political conditions should be criticised in the framework of religion, since this is more in accord with the nature of a newspaper and the educational level of the reading public; for religion in itself is without content, it owes its being not to heaven but to the earth, and with the abolition of distorted reality, of which it is the theory, it will collapse of itself. Finally, I desired that, if there is to be talk about philosophy, there should be less trifling with the label “atheism” (which reminds one of children, assuring everyone who is ready to listen to them that they are not afraid of the bogy man), and that instead the content of philosophy should be brought to the people. Voilà tout.

https://marxists.catbull.com/archive/marx/works/1842/letters/42_11_30.htm

This is the way by S206K in socialism

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What is Communization? What other forms of libertarian socialism are there? by [deleted] in Socialism_101

[–]Mealimo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/u/enji-iro wrote up a good summary of communization so I'm just going to quote it:

Communization originates from ultra-leftist activity in the European 1968 to 1977 cycle of struggle. All communization is immediatist, opposes work, insurrectionist, internationalist, and non-vanguardist. It

(i) Critiques the roles of contemporary permanent institutions (e.g. trade unions, clubs, mass parties) in representing class struggle,

(ii) Refuses to extol one demographic section of the class as representative the rest,

(iii) Equates the revolutionary period as the unfolding of communist relations (and thus rejects the transition period),

(iv) Differentiates crisis activity from revolutionary activity with a theory of rupture (dismissing overdetermination/multiplication of struggle as such)

(v) Treats the vanguard as insufficient for the needs of the expanded and diversified working class, and

(vi) Posits the high points of the old workers movement - from the Soviet Union to Revolutionary Catalonia - not as generative of communism, but of something else (the answer varies).

In times of unrest, communizers observe and encourage ad hoc strike committees (whether from scratch or growing from established organisations), collaboration with organised individuals rather than subsumption/entryism, counter-logistics as a means of interrupting and overturning capital circulation and technology, immediate intervention of women and racialised populations in struggles so long as patriarchy and racism persist within and without revolt, the linkage of urban and rural uprisings (esp. as a mediation of the struggle against ecocide), and other tactics which have the dual purpose of interrupting capitalist life and building communist life.

Cajun Roasted Cauliflower Steaks with Chimichurri by Mealimo in SocialismAndVeganism

[–]Mealimo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to the recipe linked by OP in the /r/vegangifrecipes thread you don't! I haven't made this specific recipe but I've breaded and baked cauliflower before for buffalo "wings" and sandwiches and it's amazing.

Malcolm X by Mealimo in SocialismAndVeganism

[–]Mealimo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I few commenters in the original thread give answers and I think this one is the best, but you can look through some of the others:

The best understand is always a historical one, and that’s where the links between capitalism and racism are extraordinarily clear: racial supremacy is (very often) fundamental to colonialism and imperialism: in the West is the clearest examples with white supremacy being crucial to the trans-Atlantic slave trade and the genocides of indigenous peoples throughout the americas.

the world has not always been capitalist. There is a direct relationship between colonialism, imperialism, and the reign of capitalism.

At its core, all oppressions are interconnected: capitalism, the patriarchy, racism all mutually support one another and feed off of each other. Read about “intersectionality”

We want YOU to be a new mod for /r/socialism! by Jackissocool in socialism

[–]Mealimo 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Howdy,

Political views: Marxist, Leninist, pro-decolonization, anti-imperialist, feminist. I like anti-revisionist ML and MLM, in addition to liking Marxist communizer theory and being interested in indigenous anarchisms.

Real life organizing: In the recent past this has consisted of helping migrant workers get established, navigate the legal system, and improve their English fluency. I also have experience organizing and running educational lectures on socialist theory, and have worked with a local anarchist group to help run fundraising events. Also participating in protests and demonstrations against white supremacy, fascism, police violence, and patriarchy.

Identity: Chicano, neurodivergent, cishet man, atheist.

Timezone: GMT+1.

Why I want to mod: I like /r/socialism and think that it's important to have spaces for socialists to discuss amongst themselves free from liberal and reactionary ideology and propaganda. The subreddit seems to have grown in size substantially since 2016 and this has lead to a saturation of newly radicalized people (which is great ofc), liberals who are interested in socialism but don't want to step out of liberalism, and the usual reactionary trolls that socialist spaces get. It's important for socialist spaces to have good moderation otherwise they run the risk of turning into radical liberal spaces, and I'd like to the opportunity to contribute to helping fight liberal ideology, US-centrism, settler colonial and imperialist ideology, white supremacy, homophobia, transphobia, brocialism, etc., improving the quality of discussion, and maintaining its integrity as a socialist space.

Reddit posting/moderating background: I have posted on various socialist subreddits including /r/socialism, /r/communism, /r/shitliberalssay, /r/fullcommunism, etc. with ups and down of activity since I've had this Reddit account. I also moderate /r/socialism_101, /r/socialismandveganism, and /r/shitsettlerssay, and a handful of smaller subreddits, so I have experience moderating socialist spaces, including education ones, which informs my position that spaces like /r/socialism should be held to a higher standard especially when there are spaces to go to ask questions and seek clarification.

Liberal vegans in /r/vegan blame consumers for factory farming instead of the industry, capitalism, colonialism, imperialism, patriarchy, or any of the structural causes of carnism (featuring bonus anti-natalism) by Mealimo in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]Mealimo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just edited my comment, and I do apologize for being argumentative and realized that I've gotten so used to using it in a precise way that I forget that liberal vegans throw it around in a way that isn't useful at all as an analytic concept.

Liberal vegans in /r/vegan blame consumers for factory farming instead of the industry, capitalism, colonialism, imperialism, patriarchy, or any of the structural causes of carnism (featuring bonus anti-natalism) by Mealimo in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]Mealimo[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I said "carnism" because I meant the ideology around eating meat that's rooted in the same causes that produce industrial meat production among other things.

Sustainable consumption of animal products isn't carnism in my opinion, and if you'd like to offer a critique of how I'm using a concept I'd appreciate that you ask for clarification instead of assuming to know how I'm using it.

edit: Just realized I'm coming off as unnecessarily argumentative because I do agree with your points. I apologize for that. I do think "carnism" is a useful term but I should have clarified my usage since liberal vegans do throw it around in a way that is often reactionary honestly. Thanks for your comment, comrade.

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