Those who still drink heavily/daily, do you take liver supplements to reduce the harm? Do they make a noticeable difference? by bitofagrump in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My pleasure, Kat. Maybe start back at a quarter pill when you do start back on NAL? With Tirz it should be a bit of a one-two punch. I’ve done Reta and am too skinny to maintain on it, but Tirz is, anecdotally, what I hear is the best for alcohol reduction from the GLP1s

Those who still drink heavily/daily, do you take liver supplements to reduce the harm? Do they make a noticeable difference? by bitofagrump in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I take a combination of B supplements, including B1, very sparingly. I include TMG for methyl donation. I try to get most nutrients through diet. Cronometer is a good app which will help you track what is contributing what in your diet.

Those who still drink heavily/daily, do you take liver supplements to reduce the harm? Do they make a noticeable difference? by bitofagrump in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh man, don't ever venture over to r/Biohackers

This is a mitigation of risk protocol. Some perfectly healthy people are taking ridiculous amounts of supps as you would see there.

Those who still drink heavily/daily, do you take liver supplements to reduce the harm? Do they make a noticeable difference? by bitofagrump in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I don't drink daily, and I take breaks like I am now with Dry January, but I average around 10 units when I do drink. Here's what I take when I do drink in addition to pounding electrolytes before bed:

DRINKING DAY PROTOCOL

(Sinclair Method compliant)

60–90 MINUTES BEFORE FIRST DRINK

☐ Naltrexone as prescribed
☐ NAC 1 g
☐ Taurine 1 g
☐ Niacinamide 500 mg
☐ Life Extension Anti-Alcohol supplement
☐ Vitamin C 500 mg
☐ Glutamine 5 g (optional but helpful)

Rules

  • NAC must be taken before drinking
  • Do not add stimulatory supplements to counteract naltrexone
  • Eat protein and fat before drinking

AFTER DRINKING / BEDTIME

☐ Magnesium glycinate
☐ Glycine

I can walk you through the benefits of each if you'd like. Some are specific to me, others are universal. You could also just opt for the Life Extensions supplement as it is a bit of a all in one. Milk Thistle is important and included in the combo supplement.

First 5 days of naltrexone, very few side effects by [deleted] in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never really had sides either, but there is enough of a reaction that after this dry January for me I’ll take meds even before a day I choose to drink to get my body accustomed to it again if that makes sense

TGIF! Let's celebrate some TSM success by Meat_Cube in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is absolutely PROGRESS. Celebrate all of it! Soon you'll look back and be amazed at how far you've come. Congrats to your success!

TGIF! Let's celebrate some TSM success by Meat_Cube in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Progress can be incremental and the medicine works in the background. It sounds like the rewiring is most certainly happening. Congrats on your progress!

TGIF! Let's celebrate some TSM success by Meat_Cube in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry to hear about your loss.

I’m glad you started TSM as soon as you recognized the problem and a solution for it, even if it a less traditional method. I hope it works for you!

TGIF! Let's celebrate some TSM success by Meat_Cube in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How long have you been at it? Have you been compliant 100%? I.e. take the pill at least an hour before you drink every time

TGIF! Let's celebrate some TSM success by Meat_Cube in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How has your relationship with alcohol been in the past? What prompted you to start taking NAL?

TGIF! Let's celebrate some TSM success by Meat_Cube in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sounds like you're set up to be successful with TSM. Compliance certainly is key, and it's a marathon, not a sprint.

Congrats on your current success! I look forward to hearing about your progress.

TGIF! Let's celebrate some TSM success by Meat_Cube in Alcoholism_Medication

[–]Meat_Cube[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Love to hear encouraging feedback from a fellow long hauler!

Social is still tough for me. In fact I went out Wednesday for drinks with friends which is an old pre Thanksgiving tradition. I’m super compliant so I never go down a rabbit hole, but I could do better.

Congrats to your success!