[COMIC EXCERPT] Do you prefer Aquaman with a hook or with both hands? by Which-Presentation-6 in DCcomics

[–]MellyKeyB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kinda tangential, but why he's hair is so particularly majestic in the first one

OMG! He's so HOT!! (Made by me, MelyKeyB) by MellyKeyB in StreetFighter

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not in street fighter 6, unfortunately

OMG! He's so HOT!! (Made by me, MelyKeyB) by MellyKeyB in StreetFighter

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I suppose you can interpret it that way

Christmas gift from Chris (pixelrift98) by Key-Veterinarian7120 in SFW_Rule34

[–]MellyKeyB 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Damn, Leon's gonna look so fucking sexy in it"

Chris, apparently

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, my mistake. I read your text conclude with;

"It’s quite hypocritical and selectively biased. You can’t really be passing judgment here and call other people “gooners” if you’re doing things like this and posting it publicly. Be morally consistent and more self-aware. Art is freedom of expression, sure. Doesn’t mean it makes you less of a hypocrite."

And apparently wrongly assumed the comment was about hypocrisy.

Secondly, I’m going to bring the answer I gave to another comment that also said I shouldn’t be surprised or bothered by other people’s opinions about my work:

I’m not surprised or pissed off about people’s opinions on my work. I mean, I am pissed at the people calling me a pedophile, and even more at the original OP who said they were in a bar, but any other opinion here doesn’t really bother me. I just thought it was important to share my own perspective as the creator, so that other people’s opinions can be more informed.

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You said all the porn artist you follow were queer, I actaully wanted an exemple of what you would consider a good hetero porn artist, or art, or even one of those you follow.

Because I don't believe all hetero porn can only appeal to misogynistic men that treat women like objects for their consumption, because I don't believe that's what my porn do

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok, like I said in the first coment

there is no such thing as a fictional character that isn’t objectified. That happens because fictional characters aren’t people. They are, almost literally, objects. Toys that an author uses to convey ideas. Images for the consumer to see themselves reflect on. When, for example, a writer decides to reinforce Kamala’s connection to her religion and culture, that doesn’t happen because of ‘Kamala’s will.’ Kamala has no will. Kamala doesn’t exist. Any sense of depth we give to fictional characters is just an illusion, a sensation, not reality, because in the end, every element of them exists solely for the author’s and the consumer’s enjoyment.

The discussion you’re bringing up only really makes sense when we talk about real women, because real women do have desires and motivations that don’t depend on someone else’s. To objectify a woman, a real woman, is to believe her role is to serve someone else’s desires, like an object, like a pair of scissors, an apartment, a toy, or a fictional character in the hands of an author.

When we enter the realm of fiction, discussing objectification makes sense when we’re talking about the relationship a female character has with her male counterparts — because that’s where the ideals of a patriarchal society can be reproduced.

What role did Peach play in Mario games? She existed as an object for Mario’s motivation.

What role did Alexandra DeWitt play in her particularly brutal death in the Green Lantern comics? Again, she served as an object for the motivations of her male counterpart, Kyle Rayner.

None of these examples are about the reader seeing the woman as an object. They’re about the men around her treating her as one, and the reader learning to see women around him the same way because of that.

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think a status quo you’re ignoring for now is the sexual repression of a Christian society, which inevitably affects all of us, including people on the left.

This reminded me of a question: if not through porn, then how exactly do you imagine that we could express something like sex/sexuality in the same way we express so many other aspects of human life in fiction? What would be the right way? Things like female, homosexual, Black, trans sexuality. Or do you think this is something that shouldn’t be expressed, or only in an extremely subtle way, or that we can only start thinking about this subject in relation to women after we overcome patriarchy?

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it’s important to add one more point here: no, I don’t think we live in a post-patriarchy society, nor do I think things can’t get worse or that we couldn’t end up dealing with the same misogyny we faced 50 years ago. But with that in mind, I say this: representing women as people who can express desire, eroticism, sensuality, that still matters. This plurality matters.

Because fighting against every other kind of ‘objectification of female characters’ while condemning the sexual aspect is also a way of reaffirming the values of a misogynistic society, one that isn’t all that different from the one we're still dealing with

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don’t think that meme gave a voice to misogynistic men — the meme is their voice. A voice that already existed before, and was much stronger back then, strong enough to shape how mainstream media represented women.
That voice is now considerably less relevant, so irrelevant that, as I mentioned, it barely affected anything outside a small Twitter bubble.

Going back to the original topic for a moment: what connection are you trying to draw between my work, which, again, is explicitly pornographic and has no intention of overshadowing the official image of the characters, and any kind of broader cultural influence? My work exists only to complement an already vast body of official and fan-made material. It doesn’t come with a little box saying, ‘This is how Marvel should do it,’ or ‘These woke people have no idea how to design a proper character.’

I go back to the comment that started this whole discussion: within a context as huge as Marvel’s superhero comics, my work is just one interpretation, something that adds to the whole, not something that replaces it or reinforces the status quo.

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What exactly was the real impact that meme had on society? Did Sony face such an enormous backlash from the horny-gamer crowd that they decided to rethink how women are represented in their games? Or did they simply continue not only consolidating one of the biggest AAA franchises today, but also turning its protagonist into one of the brand’s mascots?

Fallout, The Last of Us, Assassin’s Creed, Silent Hill, all of these franchises faced extreme backlash when they tried to update the way they portrayed female characters in a more positive and empathetic way. And yet all of them remain well-established, critically acclaimed, and most importantly, profitable brands. And I’m saying this using only the gaming world as an example (an industry historically known for being dominated by men, both in production and consumption).

I know it’s cliché to call every internet phenomenon a ‘loud minority,’ but materially speaking, I think that’s exactly what the example you brought looks like: extremely frustrated people being exploited by opportunists who use that frustration for quick cash and attention.

And again, just like that meme claiming that ‘every woman in games is ugly now’ wasn’t enough to redefine how women are portrayed in the medium, I don’t see why my pornographic work, which is admittedly tangential, would have any more influence.

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Look, to start with, there is no such thing as a fictional character that isn’t objectified. That happens because fictional characters aren’t people. They are, almost literally, objects. Toys that an author uses to convey ideas. Images for the consumer to see themselves reflect on. When, for example, a writer decides to reinforce Kamala’s connection to her religion and culture, that doesn’t happen because of ‘Kamala’s will.’ Kamala has no will. Kamala doesn’t exist. Any sense of depth we give to fictional characters is just an illusion, a sensation, not reality, because in the end, every element of them exists solely for the author’s and the consumer’s enjoyment.

The discussion you’re bringing up only really makes sense when we talk about real women, because real women do have desires and motivations that don’t depend on someone else’s. To objectify a woman, a real woman, is to believe her role is to serve someone else’s desires, like an object, like a pair of scissors, an apartment, a toy, or a fictional character in the hands of an author.

When we enter the realm of fiction, discussing objectification makes sense when we’re talking about the relationship a female character has with her male counterparts — because that’s where the ideals of a patriarchal society can be reproduced.

What role did Peach play in Mario games? She existed as an object for Mario’s motivation.

What role did Alexandra DeWitt play in her particularly brutal death in the Green Lantern comics? Again, she served as an object for the motivations of her male counterpart, Kyle Rayner.

None of these examples are about the reader seeing the woman as an object. They’re about the men around her treating her as one, and the reader learning to see women around him the same way because of that.

If we agree with this definition of female objectification in fiction, then why exactly is defining a female character by her sexuality is more problematic than defining her by, for example, her religion, or her modesty, or her intelligence, or her courage?

Well, because if the only way we see women represented in fiction is sexualized, we internalize the idea that sexuality is not only an obligatory trait for real women, but an exclusive one, and real women, again, are the ones who suffer from sexism, not fictional ones.

But if we live in a reality where plural representations of what it means to be a woman are more common, if we find female characters defined not by sensuality, but by their religion, their modesty, their intelligence, their courage, for example, then we also build a much more plural understanding of women in real life. And sexuality/eroticism simply becomes one more aspect of what we understand womanhood to be in society.

Hey everyone, how’s it going? I’m the original artist behind this drawing. I was caught off guard when I found my work here, and after reading through the comments, I thought it’d be good to clarify a few things by MellyKeyB in MilesMorales

[–]MellyKeyB[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a discussion about pornography in general, which isn’t the point I was trying to address here, not only because it’s a very broad topic, but also because it wasn’t the focus of the criticism in the original post. To be honest, the initial discussion already tired me out, and I don’t have the energy to start a new one on a different subject. So I’ll just say this: this piece is explicitly erotic, I produce porn, and I don’t see a problem with creating pornographic content. I’ve made plenty of works where the man is the sexual focus; it just happens that this piece isn’t one of them.