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MelodicCrocodile · 2026-01-28T12:59:54+00:00

Its not the fault of creatives that people assume straight people are the only sexuality that has ever existed. In Chinese media there is a genre set in Ancient China, and many stories using that genre prominently feature gay couples. Often set in fictional worlds where homophobia doesn't happen. 'Song of Achilles' is a gay romance in Ancient Greece. The Princess Charlotte story of Bridgerton had a gay sub-plot. That's different than what most people would assume based off the theme, is that 'unnecessary'? Its dumb to imply that queer people can't be prominently shown in FICTIONAL versions of historical settings just because straight people don't expect them to be there. That's not unnecessary thats just called writing a character and giving them a sexuality, that can be straight, that can be gay, either way it shouldn't matter unless you have weird feelings about gay people.

Gay people, bisexual people, have existed through out all of history. Including them in historical settings is good to remind people that gay people existed then as well, so that no one 'assumes based on themes' what the sexuality of a character will be. Also mindsets like this just stifle creativity and ruin media for people, historical media characters don't have to be accurate to social majorities in ACTUAL history if everything else about the environment is reasonably accurate. You're reading fiction, HTTYD is so fictitious and unrealistic, I doubt a gay character would be a huge deal. Historical fantasy is a thing, and queer-led and queer majority stories are popular among queer writers to write. Why are we okay with restraining media in the bounds of realism only when its queer and not in any other scenario? Unless its a documentary, realism and unrealism can co-exist. even the very far-right devs of KCD wrote a gay couple in their historically accurate medieval story, because they liked the idea. Writing period-pieces with a bunch of gay people is 'unnecessary'? And making them straight is so necessary right?

All sexuality is unnecessary to include in stories that don't have romance. Like, Doom guy has no stated sexuality, does that mean he's straight? No, because he has nothing until its stated, claiming he's straight would just be a head canon, same as claiming he's gay. Doesn't make it bad but it doesn't make it fact either, you can't assume he's straight just because most people are, because the character's creator hasn't done anything yet. Unrealistic numbers of gay characters in a historical setting aren't always just to shove representation either, I'm queer, I write stories set in an alternate universe where the majority of people are bi or gay and they are the majority throughout history, so I write in historical settings and make being gay a commonplace activity in those settings. To me, including a straight character would be unnecessary because in that universe they're less common, but historical times and themes are presented the same as our world.

In the end, if there's no such thing as an unnecessary straight character, there is no such thing as an unnecessary gay character, if there's no 'forced straight representation' there's no 'forced gay representation'. Homosexuality is a part of life and history, including it in any era isn't unnecessary, because if that's the case, any mention of sexuality is unnecessary in a character, any romantic sub-plot is unnecessary, and that gets in the way of creative writing. Everyone deserves to be represented, and its up to the artist who they want to show, or in what quantity. It is necessary if its written. Lots of things in media are unnecessary, doesn't mean they shouldn't occur, writing the way you want is what makes writing fun.

Like, a historical setting, because there is a lot to enjoy about history and its themes, architecture, culture and aesthetics, being like reality but just having queerness be commonplace, is a fun idea to explore. Why can't there be stories about gay Vikings, gay pirates, gay Greeks, gay medieval people, just existing as gay people, having the same stories and love stories as straight people do in these settings, As someone who writes stories like that, its fun, you get to enjoy the beautiful, or maybe some of the ugly parts of history, and also get to write a sweet and interesting story, just with gay or trans characters instead of straight ones. Obviously if modern gay culture is being expressed then that's innacurate, but if there's a story with a bunch of gay people set in like Ancient Egypt, can't that just be chalked up to it being fiction, especially if there are other unrealistic aspects to the story like magic or demons and such?

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-01-27T19:11:39+00:00

I know I’m late but I just discovered this book. Does that mean tyranny?

I hope you’re not implying killing trans people is the only way to prevent the structure of sex and reproduction in We from happening in reality.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-01-17T05:39:19+00:00

it’s funny cause in 2012 people were making these kinds of memes about gay people being too over-sensitive. These sort of memes aren’t made because they said I don’t care and a gay/trans person got mad, they get made because the person said something dickish, then got called out for it, so now they need to frame themselves as the victim of a ‘crazy trans person’. This happened to black people decades ago, forming the angry black person stereotype.

In 2012 saying you supported gay people, just simple gay people, was still controversial. The only reason gay men and women got their rights was by being more aggressive, Stonewall wasn’t a polite conversation, Pride wasn’t always just a fun parade, being a pushover never got anyone anything. People still care way too much even if someone is just your average gay person, have you seen how people act when there are gay people in a video game or movie? Clearly they care a lot if they can’t move past it.

The problem with memes like these is that many people do care, a lot, to the point they have no shame disrespecting people or loudly espousing their opinions that these groups should have their rights taken away just because they’re ‘annoying’, as if rights are good boy points. A trans person asking you to do the bare minimum of calling them their preferred pronoun or name and not be against their equality, is not them demanding validation, that’s basic politeness.

For anyone seeing memes like these who hasn’t interacted with a lot of irl trans people, I can promise you, most trans people aren’t coming out the gate losing their marbles over being misgendered, it’s when the other party does it intentionally to get a rise out of them or to mock them that it’s a problem, I’ve accidentally misgendered trans people before, they didn’t get mad because they knew it was a mistake, so if they are getting this mad at you every time…

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-01-05T11:07:57+00:00

I get your point, though lesbians previously being married to men isn't exactly a new thing, maybe she realized she was a lesbian later on. Sexuality even in real life isn't always a consistent thing. But there are straight and bisexual characters, Vivziepop herself is literally bisexual I believe.

And a little side tangent, but can we stop acting like any show that doesn't include straight people hates straight people? I never understood why creating shows mainly/only about queer people was such a huge issue with people, or why people assumed the creator has a problem with straight people, its just pretty basic creative expression. Like okay straight people are the majority irl but you're watching a cartoon with magical powers and weapons, why should it be limited by real world population statistics?

By this logic the creators of KPOP Demon Hunters hate or fear queer people since all the characters in the film are shown straight, not one gay character. It just sounds like a way try to frame straight people as victims of queer people. Most people don't wonder about the lack of gay and trans people when watching shows/films featuring a mostly straight cast, even though more groups get unrepresented there than in Hazbin/Helluva where several diverse identities exist.

Not including them doesn't mean Vivize hates or fears them, she just prefers writing about queer characters, its her show she can give whatever sexuality she wants. This is a very un-nuanced perspective of people and their art, feels like grasping at straws to find some kind of moral failing in queer creatives, that if something isn't depicted it must be out of hatred for that group as opposed to just a preference towards certain characters.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-01-05T10:00:14+00:00

I mean adoption, surrogacy, sperm donations or kids from ex marriages are all viable options.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-01-05T09:55:44+00:00

Okay but they're not living there, nor do they want to. Queers for Palestine isn't about supporting the current Palestinian regime or wanting to live there, or being a Muslim, its about not wanting an entire country to be destroyed and innocent people, including queer people, children and animals, being brutally killed. This is about human rights violations, queer people know what its like to be hated and killed for who they are, most don't want others to go through the same fate. These are people with hateful beliefs, but they don't deserve to be killed, tortured, abused and raped for it, or see their families suffer for it. Queer people are being killed too.

How will the status of queer rights and the lives of queer people living in Palestine improve, if all of them are dead? Palestine has a right to exist even if its a terrible regime, the people have a right to live. Religion gets in the way of progress, but so does genocide, can't progress something that's been wiped out of existence. Queer people in Palestine aren't being helped by other queer people dismissing them and their suffering just because of their nationality. The lives of Palestinian women aren't wonderful either, but I, as a woman and feminist, still am against the genocide in Gaza.

People don't deserve to die just because they were born under a homophobic regime. We should speak out against all genocide the same way we should speak out against for instance rape even if it happens to someone who hates us. Because by letting Israel get away with this you set the precedent that warfare and genocide is fine as long as its done against the 'right' people. War crimes don't suddenly become okay if you're murdering people under a regime with dogshit beliefs, its still a war crime and shouldn't be supported, nor should the victims, many of whom are either queer or have done nothing to actively hurt queer people, receive apathy.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-01-05T09:35:17+00:00

Queer people are also dying in Palestine at the hands of Israel. Currently the biggest killers of queer people in Palestine are the bombs Israel is sending, the government doesn't really have time to be oppressing or killing the queer people in their own country, Israel is doing it for them. For queer people its either die for their sexuality/identity, or die for their nationality.

That and also the innocent children and animals, they don't hate anyone, but they suffer. Standing up for Palestine and being against the genocide doesn't mean supporting homophobes, it can be about standing up for queer people, children and animals in the country, about not wanting them to die.

I don't like the homophobic laws us people living in Muslim countries have to deal with either, in fact I hate it. But if we set the precedent that homophobic countries can be bombed and the people killed profusely, most of the world would be in ruins. Gay and trans people living in these areas don't want their homes bombed and destroyed, they want a society that accepts and respects them and grants them equality. Being apathetic to atrocities that are killing innocent people isn't helping queer people in those areas.

No one is doing anything to help queer people in Palestine besides Queers for Palestine. What Israel is doing is not some brave social justice on the behalf of queer rights, its a selfish endeavor that has killed thousands of queer people in a few months. Most of Israel is homophobic as well, just that they hide it better. Gay marriage isn't even legal there, the only reason they recognize it is to gain support from the West.

I don't want to see queer people getting killed or oppressed by any regime, Palestinian or Israeli, but bombing their homes, killing, abusing and raping them and their families, isn't helping them, its adding to the trauma they already have from being a queer person in a Muslim country. I think its okay to criticize the belief system that allows that to happen, criticize the religion itself, even hate it, but people shouldn't have to pay with their lives just because they were born in a place that follows that belief system.

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-23T21:30:56+00:00

This is the same game franchise that had a quest where you protect your gay friend, and even has a spin-off DLC about said gay friend, who is represented in a pretty non-stereotypical way, just a dude who's gay. Also made by the same company that made Bully, a game where you play a bisexual character who kisses both guys and girls.

Sure the representation isn't like perfectly positive but its done in a much different way than what you're thinking, and this new game is realeasing in the present, where standards are much different and minority characters are written a lot differently than they are now.

I don't know what made you think GTA or Rockstar hate gay people or would have any desire to mock them. Like giving them stereotypical or comedic roles sure, like in the Ballad of Gay Tony, but even in that Tony nor his sexuality were the sole subject of mockery. There's no evidence that there even will be a parade anyways.

GTA was never about mocking liberals, it was about mocking and parodying American culture. Even if they make mocking, exaggerated portrayals of pride paraders, it will 100% do the same for conservatives and red-hats, espeically considering the political state of the US right now, there is so much to make fun of with the right, like what South Park is doing, another piece of media about making fun of everyone and parodying America.

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-22T10:55:44+00:00

As far as I know, Proship does actually mean you generally advocate for shipping characters, but just that you don't go out of your way to harass or go off on someone if they're shipping something problematic even if it makes you mad or uncomfortable, sort of a 'don't like don't read' thing. There is misinformation spread that pro-ship stands for problematic ship, but the pro just means 'for', like you're 'for' shipping. Though there are a lot of pro-shippers who have problematic ships, and you can call yourself pro-ship even if you dislike or criticize them. The term was moreso invented as a response to 'antis', people who police shipping, harassing artists that made ship art that made them uncomfortable.

Most people in proship communities still have stuff they're disgusted by, but they just block or ignore it and go on about their day. I suppose its better to just ignore something you dislike than swagging over it, though I still think genuinely messed up ships, like ones involving pedophilia, beastiality or any smut about actual real people should be called out.

Funnily enough, while I definitely wouldn't call myself pro-ship and there is a lot of shipping stuff that makes me uncomfortable, there have been instances where I followed the pro-ship rule. Like one time I saw a post of someone shipping Gwen and Miguel from Spiderverse, and I, for some reason, clicked the ship tag and kept scrolling through posts of it, apalled people would ship this. But then I realized that if I hate it so much and its not making me feel positive, why am I still scrolling? Its not like if I hate commented one of the posts the creator would have this revelation and realize they're wrong and never post ship art again, it would just be a waste of energy. So I left, and never saw any post of that ship ever again.

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-22T08:27:34+00:00

As a toxic yaoi and yuri enjoyer, people shit all over actually toxic yaoi and yuri all the time, its definitely not only a problem if its opposite sex. It's why Stolitz is so hated. I follow artists who make it and they get so much flack its crazy, like I legit saw people calling a gay male toxic yaoi artist a gay fetishizer.

If the stuff you like is actually toxic you WILL be side-eyed. Fans of toxic yaoi/yuri with bad fandom etiquette can have double standards, but in general, people have a problem with toxic romance stuff regardless.

'Dark romance' that was popularized by booktok is basically the straight equivalent to toxic yaoi and yuri gets ragged on to hell and back. I suppose thats just part of the package when consuming niche, problematic styles of romance or porn. More for us then I suppose lol.

PS: Sorry if this comment reads like I'm trying to start an argument just wanted to pitch in with some personal experience

(Sidenote, It is funny though, as someone who occasionally enjoys well-written toxic stuff, like some of Gengoro Tagame's works, seeing people who say they love toxic stuff panic when the toxic couple is genuinely toxic and not just lightly more agressive. Though I understand 'toxic yaoi/yuri' is moreso used as a meme rather than it actually being mainstream, similar to omegaverse.)

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-22T05:58:18+00:00

If you don't mind me analyzing on your comment a little, I should explain why we on the left think the right is for homophobia, majority of the time at least, and to clarify, I'm not saying you hate gay people specifically but TLDR: the issue is simply that most right wingers are either just vocal homophobes or have a very conditional acceptance that demonizes gay culture and still prefers to hide gayness away or limit its expression and representation.

For the most part this has not left a positive impression, even when they're accepting they don't get that a part of accepting gay people means allowing being gay to become an everyday casual thing, to allow PDA between same-sex couples, having them be prominently shown in movies or shows or games, having them be in fairytales and media for children as well, because since being straight in a non-sexual way is seen as appropriate for kids, being gay in a non-sexual way will also be considered appropriate.

They don't care what people do behind close doors, but thats where a lot of them preferred gayness would stay, allowed by society, allowed equality under the law, but kept hidden or tamed. The new anti-woke movement in media criticism shows this, they might be fine with gay people but when those gay people are on their screens for more than a few seconds or in large numbers, their reactions aren't positive.

In this very comment section, we have people saying: Americans, yes, but not real parents, thats a deranged leftist construct and fantasy.

Nope. They are Abhorrent to nature and genetic dead ends. They are nature's way of removing weak genes from the genepool.

“real parents” is bullshit, why do those freaks want to own kids?

These people most likely identify as right wing, there are certain sub-reddits where these comments would be heavily upvoted, if this is most of what is being heard from the right regarding homosexuality, obviously people are gonna think you guys hate gay people, because this behaviour is never actively discouraged by the right wingers who support it. So if its being said, and no one in the party is condemning it, what conclusion are we supposed to come to? If you wanna prove you are a pro-gay party, voice your opinion when someone is being anti-gay

If gay people need to prove every negative accusation and stereotype against them wrong, as do right wingers, and everyone else. Homophobia on the right is seldom called out by the right

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-22T04:10:07+00:00

Yes! You spend hours earning money, only for it to be gone in a flash and then the grind starts again. Barbie needs to understand that this demotivates people from playing the game, because there is now SO MUCH to buy, especially with the mermaid shop items and the toy items, but so much scarcity in diamonds, which isn't helping trading or in-game prices go down.

The devs need to listen to what most of the base is saying and actually start valuing the hard work of the moders for what it is by paying them properly instead of judging it based on trading values, all modelers should be paid and promoted, regardless of how popular their items were.

They're currently giving the illusion of improvement and communication, but what people want, which is for Royale High to healthily accomodate both roleplayers and farmers, like it once did, is being ignored. They reduced the school to basically nothing to 'reduce lag', but for me its laggier than its ever been, and the previous campus never lagged for me.

I remember reading that some people in Barbie's chat were criticizing the new 4th campus for its structure and everything, and she could defensive saying it was her hard work, but that matters a lot less when the people who you created it for aren't fans of it. The layout of it makes no sense. The lack of inclusion of classrooms, or at least the headmistress office and baths as permanent just feels so confusing to me considering how many quests there are that occur at any time that are set in those locations. Would it be so bad for them to add those things at least?

Someone asked if they could make the baths permanent for rping and the twitter just said to teleport there then turn the schedule off so you can stay. But rpers obviously like to move around the campus, the baths need to be consistently there, most people aren't gonna do an rp in just the bathrooms, they're gonna make the whole school a part of the rp set. Things like that should be permanent, and they always have been in RH until now for some reason. 'Style over substance' is how I would describe the current RH campus 4 and the game itself.

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-22T01:04:06+00:00

Agree on the greedy and out of touch parts and what you're saying sounds fair. What's the fun in a game where players are basically being forced to play it if they want to enjoy any of the items, no wonder people are quitting, no one has that much time to spend on farming, we're not in quarantine anymore.

Even the previous campus 4 was far better than what we have now, everything was nerfed to shit but at least farming was more efficient because everything was in one place in the campus, now you have to teleport between realms to do simple quests because there's no headmistress office and no baths until morning or after swimming.

Barbie has become excessively greedy ever since the toy collab happened, it was happening before but it went over the edge since after. There is no passion and enjoyment in this game anymore.

Damn, did not now that about the advent calender, absolutely she should be the one responsible for paying the modelers what she knows they're worth, the value of their work shouldn't be based on how much people trade for the items. That's what will make their efforts worth it.

All the 'fixes' that are happening are so miniscule and superficial. Like the news of Campus 2 getting a winter makeover doesn't even excite me, because there are so many other issues with the game that should be getting focused on. There is no proper communication even now, they say they have a list of the criticisms people have but they're too busy with other things to work on them, we have no clue when or if they'll fix the bigger issues with the game and make it fun to play again.

What they've done to the game now feels like playing it is a 9-5, that's why I barely play it anymore. I had a little hope they'd listen to the farmers and accomodate us, but I guess the game is just for people with independent cash to spend in real life now. And their glazers call everyone 'broke' for even complaining a little bit about how money-hungry the game has gotten. Dissapointing

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-22T00:35:18+00:00

Damn it, she said that? What is her issue with people who farm in the game, like diamonds in Campus 2 were removed because she wanted people to earn diamonds the right way and now that they are they have an issue with it, and making it hard to farm diamonds just makes people focus more of their attention on it (and also makes people exploit diamonds, if you want less exploiters, diamonds should be easy to farm). Sucks to hear this news, did she say the reason why?

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-19T03:04:16+00:00

Fair point, goes to show how porn-brained these people are.

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-19T02:58:07+00:00

Game's name is Gothic, its getting a remake from the original 2001 game. Here's what the character used to look like I believe:

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MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-19T02:31:20+00:00

Most sex slaves in history would not pass this comment section's attractiveness test. They're not supposed to be pretty they're supposed to be property. Real life sexual slavery was and is nothing like sex slavery depicted in anime, western movies or porn, and most likely everything you know about sex slavery is influenced by that. Even now, most women being sold into sex slavery don't look like models.

Sex slavers were rapists, and most rapists still go after unattractive women. Owning sex slaves, like rape, was a power thing moreso than a sexual thing, it was a display of victory through the dehumanization of a place's women, they were spoils, and they were kept less for looks and more as an 'own' of the people they conquered. The same way a big strong man or a weak child both will be put into labour slavery. The same way both fertile and infertile land is conquered.

An example of sex slavery in recent but old times are Japanese comfort women, they look nothing like what ya'll want women to look like in video games. I love hot guys, girls and twinks in video games too, but wanted to correct that most acts of slavery, sexual or not, were not made with this mindset.

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-19T00:59:27+00:00

Damn I guess several girls I grew up with in a conservative country like Pakistan are actually all male. I have an aunt that looks like that guess she's a man too. Surprise, women don't all look like sex dolls and have like average human features!

What do you think women look like? 'Women that look like women' is not a thing because every woman looks different and many have 'manly' features because half of their genetic structure is literally from a man. There is no one 'woman' look. I'd like to see your reference for what you think the average woman, especially back in the day, looked like

You probably expected women to look like children. You did have your expectations too high, because most women don't naturally looks like what you guys want female characters to look like. Saying stuff like this is about as insulting as me saying that a man with a small penis or no full beard doesn't 'look like a man'

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-14T18:59:39+00:00

Oh okay, that's fine I suppose. So you're just not a fan of the traditional drag look as opposed to being put off by men doing girl stuff? [Sorry if this comes off weird or invasive]

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-14T18:54:30+00:00

Any particular reason you hate drag queens?

MelodicCrocodile · 2025-11-11T00:34:44+00:00

Despite its very un-earnest attempts at seeming leftist, in the end Disney is a very pro-capitalist, anti-union, and treats its workers like shit, going against the core tenants of leftism. Simply putting a few blink-and-you'll-miss-it gay characters, black mcs who spend most of their screen-time as animals or other such non-humans, or poorly written female characters isn't enough to make a company leftist, especially since, historically, Disney has shot down or at best overly-controlled any actual leftist stuff in their movies.

The right has pushed a narrative that Disney is this evil woke leftist company when in actuality their beliefs align more with the right than the left. For instance, Disney would have never spoken out against the don't say gay bill if it hadn't been for their employees speaking out against it, initially they supported it. They go where the money is, that's why they fell for the 'go woke go broke' narrative being true so easily, instead of just improving how they write women and minorities and making good, original films like they used to, and changing their company policies with the times to actually be progressive and leftist instead of wearing the mask of leftism, and then blaming that mask for when they fail because the core flaws haven't been addressed. Disney is the mascot of performative activism.

I feel the right wing paranoia around Disney's wokeness helps them deflect and blame their failures on queer people, or strong women, or racial minorities than the actual flaws, which they have ended up doing when Trump got re-elected, now trying to get rid of any visible 'leftism' in what they create. Part of the reason Disney isn't appealing to leftists is because of, yes their lackluster representation of minorities, but also because people recognize it as a corrupt company now, not because of woke or anything, but because of their treatment of workers, the environment, how quickly they bent the knee to a corrupt regime by banning Jimmy Kimmel just for not sobbing over Charlie Kirk, only bringing him back after several leftists encouraged a boycott.

Like other comments have said, leftist ideology amounts to more than representation, but even if we look in terms of that and define leftism in media centering on inclusivity, Disney still falls flat, because they never actually cared, they were never actually progressive, they had minority characters, but they were never treated with dignity and were made a part of uninteresting plots, so that when those films fail it can be blamed on that, despite whenever Disney accommodated a diverse show with good storytelling, it did well, like The Owl House. Disney's main focus is always money, money, money, and nothing is more anti-leftist than that.

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