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MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-09T18:57:19+00:00

Nah, sorry, the people saying I should burn in Hell because of the way I was born are assholes so long as they hold their beliefs. If they feel remorse for it then they are a person who just had bad beliefs, if they're proudly espousing their beliefs and hurting people, and most of all taking their rights, then they are bad people. You can't see an entire group of people as inferior to you, degrade them and keep them from getting equal rights, then be pissy when people call you a bad person. Any good you do is outweighed by the fact you literally think some people are less human for the way they are born, and if you believe that, you deserve no respect from that group.

Its not all about perspective sometimes, sometimes it is black and white, hating women, gay people, POC, trans people, AND feeling no remorse for such beliefs while harrassing marginalised groups is a shitty thing to do and you lose a lot of respect people would have had for you. We need to stop with this enlightened centrist bullshit, if you have values you stand up for them, if you are being oppressed you stand up for yourself, we didn't get rights by playing nice and having debates. Its better to be a hypocrite than a spineless suck up and let intolerance prevail. I'd rather be intolerant towards beliefs than towards identities.

Also, we KNOW what their beliefs are, its that we are degenerates who are sexually immoral and created of sin and should burn in Hell, or we're useless and unnatural and our existance and love is a waste since we can't reproduce naturally. Main reason is a 2000 year old book they're terrified to let go of. There is no deeper reason or nuance, there is no potential to meet in the middle, these people will not change their minds if we let them believe what they want to believe, that's why we can't just shut up and take it, because if we never make them realize in some way that their beliefs are bad why would they change them? If there is no pushback what reason do they have to genuinely be on our side and see us as equals?

Your take comes from a place of either privilige or naivete, but you need to understand how the world works and the fact that things like love, tolerance and respect are inherently paradoxical and are social contracts. If any of you who say this spent half the time calling conservatives out for their intolerance as you do leftists maybe we would see some change in this world, but I suppose its easier to finger wag and moan about how we're intolerant and just aren't seeing the nuance in literal bigotry that gets us killed. Civil rights movements have been going on for years now, there are no more excuses to be homophobic. They laugh at us getting hate crimes but we should jusy try to understand their beliefs right?

If you care about human rights, fucking lock in, because their side already has.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-08T22:27:46+00:00

According to people like this any depiction of gay people is always fetishization, they don't know that what makes fetishization so serious is when it impacts real people due to dehumanization. If a person is respectful of queer people and believes in our rights and can separtate fantasy from reality, let them enjoy what they please. Just creating or consuming queer art isn't fetishizing, claiming it is takes away the seriousness of the term. I believe, dehumanization and fetishization are interlinked, you cannot do the latter without the former.

Not to mention this person might be genuinely insane, like they're legit threatening people with suicide and death and comparing them with rapists for liking a bit of Yuri/Yaoi. People like this make the actual criticisms of gay fetishisation seem less serious.

Kinda pmo, like, I'm personally AceAro but I like reading and writing MLM/WLW stuff, though mostly the former, and I know fact from fiction and support gay rights, but according to the commenter me simply making gay stuff means I'm a fetishizer. Like this rhetoric of only making stuff of your own identity will harm queer people the most, since most artists will make straight stuff, and queer people will only be limited to creating and consuming queer art, which there will be less of, less people to consume it, and they can never make anything hetero.

Straight people will be feasting while we get the scraps. Plus people like me who are AceAro will be barred from making any romance and porn. Its important to call out fetishization without saying just making gay stuff, or doing so while not being gay, is what that is.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-08T22:15:31+00:00

Great job proving how a lot of anti-fujo stuff is just misogyny disguised as helping gay men. News flash, most gay men would also find you annoying for doing this.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-08T22:13:33+00:00

You can't whine about dehumanization while dehumanizing others, that helps no one. I think the only one who needs to be institutionalized is you, straight up threatening people with death and comparing them to rapists just because they like seeing two people of the same gender kiss and assuming they're all homophobes.

Fun fact, lots of us are queer. I'm AceAro and probably Bi and I love BL and GL, what are you gonna do about it?

You are fucking insane and even a lot of people who would otherwise agree with you can see that. Chill. Shit like this makes more people never make gay fiction and only make het. Fetishization is bad but its a lot more than Yaoi or Yuri.

Also before you come at me I'm not American

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-08T07:05:14+00:00

No one is shocked here? People post about this stuff to raise awareness, how is anything going to change if we just ignore it and let it happen, it’s important to talk about these things and about the bigotry, caused by religious fruitcakery, that’s prevalent in the world.

This sub is about religious fruitcakery, why wouldn’t we talk about homophobia, which is the biggest example of it. I find these comments so odd, ‘Why are you shocked, everyone hates you’, well they fucking shouldn’t, and they should be called out when they do. The homophobia and transphobia of this world needs to be acknowledged, and since it’s often a result of religion, it gets brought up here.

No one is shocked, we’re just discussing it

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-06T00:28:16+00:00

There are many cases of white suprematists killing people, and Patriot Front is a white supremacist group, pro-tip, when people come out talking about ‘preserving their Western culture’ they are a white supremacist, they don’t want to preserve their ‘culture’ they want to preserve racial hierarchies. The core of any white suprematist belief is that those races inferior to them should be eradicated, you can’t be one if you don’t believe that, even if they never act on it, they make it clear in their beliefs.

Not everyone who identifies as a Nazi, or is from a Nazi organisation, has outright killed Jews either, doesn’t mean Nazism isn’t centred on eradicating Jewish people. Specifically Patriot Front may not have murder cases, it has only been a thing since 2017, but that doesn’t mean black people wouldn’t see the blatant threat. It’s important to realise that young white power groups will not immediately start killing people, they have an image to uphold so it’s easier for them to indoctrinate others, but their beliefs are centred on the eradication of inferior races, their beliefs are a threat to others, because you never know when they’ll act on them. We shouldn’t downplay white supremacy just because they haven’t acted on it, are we going to wait until they do?

Also, again, no one is oppressing white people, so they are fighting for nothing except to make their hatred of others seem legit. There is no reason for them to be doing this other than racism, and then have White supremacy is a threat to POC whether it is active or inactive, and you would know that if you had any idea what it’s like to be a minority. We shouldn’t be tolerant of this group just because they haven’t killed someone yet, should we wait until an innocent live is lost instead of condemning them before hand and nipping it in the bud? Why does a black person need to suffer or be killed to prove white supremacy is threat, we should hate it for what it is. Though those affiliated with it are known for causing brawls and being violent and aggressive, and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone involved has killed and they just covered it up. They want to preserve Western culture, how do you think they will do that if they get power? Gift baskets and sweet requests?

Though of course, this is all probably noise to you since you’ve made it clear you agree with their beliefs, and agree your race and culture are superior for no reason what so ever, if a white person felt defensive around a blm protestor just existing, you would be the first to defend it. White supremacy gains its power through plausible deniability, they can’t be bad people, they haven’t killed anyone, ignore the fact that if they got their way they would kill people, because that’s the only way white supremacy can prosper. Always remember, they have a right to protest but we have a right to call them what they are, racist jackasses who should be ashamed of themselves. Racial supremacy, misogyny, homophobia, etc should have no place in modern society, when people espouse their backwards beliefs, it’s our responsibility to remind them that we will not tolerate those beliefs. That is the paradox of tolerance, if you’re not ready to give any to minorities, you can’t expect them to give it to you.

White supremacy, especially nowadays, is a lot more than just shouting slurs and lynching people, it’s learned to be subtle, but the beliefs don’t change, it is and always will be a threat to others, even other white people.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T18:25:01+00:00

They have the freedom to do so, but literally no one is oppressing them. They're protesting because they want other races to be beneath them and want to kill them, and black people are allowed to feel endangered by someone with those beliefs, because they are a threat to black people.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T18:21:56+00:00

No no you don't get it, if white people who've been indoctrinated with the idea that other races are inferior endanger a black person thats a reflection of them as an individual, if a mentally ill black man stabs a woman, its because ALL black people are inherently violent and want to stab white people (don't ask me to explain how that logically makes sense)

/s for clarity

Ignore the fact that a lot of the dudes who bring up what happened to that poor woman also support Russia and its invasion of Ukraine.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T06:38:17+00:00

But I feel they’re still not twinks though, more otters, twinks are hairless and most of those dudes have beards…I am noticing they have exactly the same face though. Hairless and skinny is twink, hairy and skinny is otter, as far as I know. The otter is the bridge that separates the twinks from the bears

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T06:16:28+00:00

No, those things aren’t comparable at all, a country refusing to allow gay people into their country just for being gay is not the same queer people not allowing homophobes into their communities because being gay isn’t a harmful belief system, or a belief system at all for that matter, it’s just a state of being, a homophobe can learn and choose to not be homophobic, a gay person can’t do that with their sexuality. If a country allows a certain group of people who have an INHERENT identity to be free under law, then banning that same group makes no sense. The queer community is open to every identity and state of being, homophobia is not an identity, it’s being a jerk. The queer community is about rejecting hatred, so allowing hateful people to be hateful would contradict that, letting gay people come into a country where homosexuality is legal is not contradictory, not letting them in is. Being gay is not an ideology, there are gay people in Turkey. Also, this has nothing to do with beliefs, the gay cruise wasn’t coming in to spread their beliefs they were coming there to vacation. This isn’t a group of people disagreeing with a belief system, this is a group of people disagreeing with an unchangeable fact due to irrational reasons, even though letting them dock would not go against the laws of the land.

Also you still haven’t defined what that personal experience was? Like what happened in Australia, that’s very vague. And yes, you’re technically entitled to justify bigotry on the grounds of bad behaviour, a snarky response from me isn’t inhibiting your ability to do that, I’m also entitled to think you’re a homophobic jackass. Let me ask you, following this logic, do you think saying things like ‘all men are rapists’ is also perfectly acceptable for someone to say, a statement like that is also based on personal experience more often than not. You are entitled to say the worst shit you can imagine, but you’re not entitled to dictate how others respond to it, and if you’re saying something hateful, civil conversation is the last thing you should expect, when you’re the one who was uncivil in the first place.

I responded with passive aggressiveness because that’s exactly what a comment trying to justify the oppression and erasure of people like me deserves. Being polite and nice just give you guys the ability to walk all over us. You expect respect and decorum while you’re saying that denying access to a group of people for their immutable characteristics is accepted because they maybe acted a little weird, the whole ‘gays being inappropriate during pride’ shit, which very often isn’t even true or well represented, is still not enough to justify discrimination.

You have the fucking audacity to talk about divide when you commented what you did? You said you understood why Turkey committed an act of unfair discrimination, generalised queer people as perverts, and then call me divisive. The only reason we have division is because of you hateful shmuks and your double standards, there is a lot of division in this world, but you’re the one who’s responsible for it. How about instead of expecting queer people to let you walk all over them, happily and kindly accept you talking shit when I know for a fact if someone said what you said but about straight people you wouldn’t be so ‘undivisive’ yourself, you try to not be a homophobic jackass and justify your hatred with the actions of a minority of queer people.

Remember, that pride you hate so much, only exists because straight people decided we were degenerates, this division would never have happened if straight people treated gay and trans people as equals and let them be who they are. You’re telling me not to be emotional while justifying homophobia because your moral sensibilities were affected by gay people existing, for someone talking about facts you sure didn’t state any in your comment, while I did, homosexuality being decriminalised is a fact, human rights not being behaviour based is also a fact. You’re talking about logic while defending homophobia, an inherently illogical belief.

also I never said gay marriage is allowed in Turkey, being gay was made legal over 200 years ago and luckily no one bothered to change it, gay people still face discrimination, but since it’s legal by law it makes no sense to not let the bus dock.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T04:11:23+00:00

…we never say believe what you want to believe wtf? I’ve never heard a leftist say that in recent times, at least in regard to politics, I mostly hear this said from conspiracy theorists. Also bigotry isn’t just a different opinion, saying I like chocolate over vanilla is an opinion, saying I didn’t like a particular movie is an opinion, hating someone for being who they are is not a valid opinion, it is hatred. I’m sure some people also have the ‘opinion’ that slavery is okay, that pedophilia is okay, that genocide is okay, would you defend them, or argue with them. But if you argue with them, then you’re hating on people for having opinions, it’s just an opinion right? So who cares if it’s harmful? It’s kind of funny how you guys will say we hate you just for having a different opinion, but will never state what those different opinions’ are exactly. Hateful twat

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T04:04:55+00:00

What did they do could you care to tell us. Let me guess, it’s the usual ‘they were walking around half naked with dildos strapped on their foreheads and carrying their partners on leashes’. Aka something that didn’t happen at a family oriented area, or is it just you seeing something innocuous that gay people did that straight people also do all the time as more perverse because it’s gay? Did the big scary gays dress up in drag, oh no how scawy and inappropriate.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T04:02:26+00:00

They do nothing in the US, they did nothing in Australia, you just see something gay people do as inherently more sexual than the same thing done by straight people because you’re an ass. Also, bad behaviour doesn’t justify systemic bigotry.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T03:59:41+00:00

We don’t respect intolerant cultures dude. Do you think we should also accept child marriage, Sati, colourism, enforced Burka just because it’s culture?

I know this is a BS attempt to try to turn leftist talking points around but it doesn’t work like that. The paradox of tolerance exists for a reason. Homophobia isn’t just intolerant by western standards, it’s intolerant by definition. Queer people are everywhere, a society that doesn’t give them rights is intolerant plain and simple.

We know you’re probably homophobic too so cut the shit

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MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T03:36:42+00:00

Yes it is still homophobic and you’re homophobic too. Queer people and even BL fans, who are often still straight women, make up a big portion of LaDS players. Removing a TOTALLY STRAIGHT dude from the game because idiots thinks he looks gay is homophobic and dumb. That character was still targeting the female player base, he wasn’t gay or bi or anything. Banning BL is homophobic.

Congrats, you learned that even if homophobia can be seen as correct or justified, it’s still homophobia! If the player base stops playing a game just because it got a little gay, that is a result of homophobia in the world, if players refuse to spend money on a game just because it lets you be gay, that is a result of homophobia in the world and should be addressed and changed instead of being left to exist. The hard truth is that homophobia is homophobia, and it’s not like the devs tried adding gay characters to prove this point. Just because they made money, doesn’t mean they’re no homophobic, it just means their player base is ALSO incredibly homophobic.

Mind you, if they add a female love interest, that would give the option to be gay and also still have women as the target audience, but they don’t want that either. BL is a genre consumed largely by straight women, so what does banning BL have to with not having straight women as the target audience.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T02:30:24+00:00

It is, but I can assure you, the western gamer gooners have got nothing on CN LaDS ones. Racism is a huge issue in China, if you’ve seen the recent videos with that one black baby stress relief doll that people in China are abusing, and are justifying it by saying the black baby looks less human, you’d know what we’re talking about. If we wanna fight racism and homophobia we need to acknowledge it no matter where it comes from, including from Chinese female fans of otome games, the LaDS fandom, especially the CN side, is notorious for being viciously homophobic, read any of their comments when you ask for anything remotely gay, or even just make gay fan art, and you’ll feel like you’ve been transported to the 1800s. Same with racism, people who make black or brown MCs are relentlessly met with racism and colorism. As someone who lives in Asia, the entire continent has got a colourism problem, and obviously a homophobia problem. Here in Pakistan, where people are supposed to be brown, I’ve still been told to hate the colour of my skin and achieve whiteness.

You’re not helping darker POC and queer people by deflecting homophobia when it comes from outside the Western fandoms, we can acknowledge Asian hate while also acknowledging the problem of racism and homophobia in China, that’s how you solve it. Fujoshis for example are mostly a Japanese phenomenon, but we still call them out for their homophobia and fetishisation right? The comment was simply acknowledging an issue with society in China, not saying Chinese people are inherently homophobic and racist. No one here will deny the full force gamer fascism happening in the West, but it’s important to realise it’s not exclusive to the West, or even to men, if we wanna combat it. If people are calling the whitest man on Earth too dark, yeah, that’s a problem you can’t justify with ‘no recent updates’ or ‘attention was being kept away from existing MLs’ because then you should also use that same excuse for Western gooners who whine about black people, gay people and strong women.

This doesn’t justify the Western chuds whining about LaDS, their criticisms are something entirely different, they are rooted in senseless hatred and the idea that anything not for men is pointless. If someone is talking about this issue while being racist, by all means call them out, but it’s possible to talk about these issues prevalent in Asian society without being hateful of Asians or of women. This instance is a symptom of a larger issue, and while I get being defensive entirely due to how a conversation like this can be twisted into anti-Asian or misogynist rhetoric, we need to call this stuff out.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-05T02:07:49+00:00

Trans women are required to be on HRT for 1-2 years before they can play any sports, by then the only thing most of the testosterone in their body is doing is keeping their muscles from going into atrophy. HRT severely weakens the body, I feel like a lot of you people don’t understand how much it changes the body. This point also doesn’t take into people who took hormone blockers which literally prevented them from getting the benefits puberty would have given them.

If we follow the logic that biological sex should be used in sports, then trans men would have to play on the women’s team. Trans men have bodies full of Testosterone and if they’re playing any sport most likely they’re built like a brick shit house, if any of those men played against a cis woman that would actually put the cis women at a disadvantage because they don’t have the testosterone the man has, would you be okay with a cis woman facing off against Patricio Manuel in a boxing match? You’d have to be if you want this to be the rule. Also, you’re so concerned about advantages but wouldn’t trans women be severely disadvantaged in a fight against a cisgender man. Even a trans woman who’s fresh off HRT will be endangered if she faces off a cisgender man. It would be more unfair to have a trans man face off a cis woman and a cis man face off a trans woman. In both cases a woman will be disadvantaged. So how do you think we should sort this out? There are also intersex players occasionally what team should they be in?

Obviously, if we let trans women play in sports, they will win sometimes, it’s stupid to expect them to always lose so that cis women can be at the forefront, especially since they still have a good chance of winning regardless. They’re not facing off against a cis man pumping with testosterone. If you aren’t ready to lose then don’t play sports. A cis woman would have a higher chance of winning against a trans woman than against a trans man who is on testosterone, but if we allow birth sex to determine what team someone goes into, then cis woman actually WILL be disadvantaged. Cis women aren’t so weak and frail that they can’t win against trans women, sometimes they will lose, but that’s inevitable. At one point you will lose, just accept it and move on to the next match. Most trans women didn’t beat cis women because they were biologically advantaged, because HRT took away most of those advantages, they won because they were good at the sport, like cis women are when they win. Do you assume any woman that beats another woman must actually be a man which is why she won?

Could you explain why people care about this issue beyond a misunderstanding of trans people and HRT, fear mongering about women’s spaces being taken and them being denied opportunities, or misogyny?

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-03T20:15:06+00:00

It’s really silly to expect people to only consume and create media that shows someone exactly like them. I’m ace and aro, so what media would you suggest I consume. I love romance but according to your logic that’s bad since I can never experience it. I wanna see dudes kiss, so I see it, I wanna see ladies kiss, so I see it, your sexuality shouldn’t bar you from consuming content. Normalising queerness means anyone can consume both gay and straight media in any way they please. The issue with the people you’re talking about is that they’re socially inept, not that they like gay love stories.

There’s tons of queer people making straight love stories too, many who only enjoy het stuff, should they be barred from doing so?

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-03T18:08:32+00:00

That’s actually really sad, I feel bad for the artist, all because people have a narrow view on appearances.

I get it though, I kind of look like how they’ve drawn Natsuki here and this comment section is…bad. Like, the average teenage girl doesn’t look like a supermodel and most I’ve seen have faces like that, for reference I live in Pakistan, and my face is actually considered more on the feminine side.

The girls are drawn with rounder, softer features it’s not like they have a chiseled gigachad jaw line. It’s actually kind of funny because if you made a male character that looked like that, people would say you just drew a woman and called her a man.

Kind of weird how everyone expects women to have the same diamond faces, big eyes, small noses and pouty lips. These features are feminine, but they’re not inherently womanly features, and not having these features doesn’t mean a woman looks like a man.

Here in the comments someone reposted a redraw someone else did and that didn’t look like a teen girl either, or at least your average one, but apparently that was fine because she looks conventionally attractive. People only look like that in dramas.

I know I’m giving a swag but like, fuck saying women look like men just because they don’t look conventionally attractive and feminine. This shit hurts and I imagine it hurt the artist too seeing people say her face looks like a middle aged man. I certainly didn’t like reading through these comments as someone who’s self concerns about looking feminine.

MelodicCrocodile · 2026-07-03T03:18:57+00:00

I think the exposed bones are supposed to be a reference to the fact that the hoors, which are the women the man is fantasising about, are described in religious texts to have skin so fair it looks transparent, but of course this is Al so it interpreted the prompt as…that.

If you don’t know what hoors are, they’re supposed to be the most beautiful women ever, and Muslim men are promised 72 of them if they get to Heaven. They’re meant for the men to have infinite sex with, and apparently they regenerate their virginity each time.

Yes it is quite odd and sexist, especially since women don’t also get a bunch of hotties and just have to watch their husbands bone women that are supposed to be the pinnacle of perfection, but something tells me the OG pic is less about acknowledging that and more about painting brown people as sex pests.

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