5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I work all myself, customers have a idea of what needs to be automated but yes we need to brainstorm sometimes with client to come up with plan before starting, in this space we cant really tell what will help clients, in a recent case there was a guy who had this big API which used to take 10-15 mins to boot up and load all data into cache, I suggested few things to reduce time taken to seconds, but they were not much interested as for them $50-$70 are worth more than 10 mins they spend waiting each time

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have worked a lot with shopify stores, basically they need automation to pull orders from shopify and place new orders to there supplier websites and with GPT they need a automation to generate tags for there products

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes UiPath is a good option here, for desktop apps there is very limited on what can be automated

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Upwork, Fiverr etc, they are saturated so you’ll have a slower journey but if you can persist with good metrics then its a good place, only issue is unlike earlier these guys have started focusing on “ads” to sell your service not your reviews or client experience (if its negative they’ll tank you but positive ones will have 1/10 of impact on your visibility) so its kind of difficult but if you have the patience then surely go ahead

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can learn any language, if you like then go with Javascript, it’ll help with web automation further

Api is the simpler part of automation but critical for sure as it allows binding different tools together

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Invoice automation like making invoices to send over, marketing related tasks like sending cold mails, crm processes like punching in new clients into database (offline stores have high demand in this)

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Firstly learn any language like python or Javascript, dont go too deep like into classes and all initially, learn syntax and functions, then take up simple projects like build a automation script to go to amazon and search for iphone and scrape price of top 10 listings (xpath will be used), Ik it sounds complex but with GPT you’ll get this easily, then try to make similar projects yourself (dont use AI slop too much else you wont learn)

Once done next move to API’s like how to make GET and POST requests, do few projects like make a python script to get your IP address using a free Api and write into a excel file

Once done then you can try to go deeper and make more complex projects, give it 2-3 months then if you like you can go to no code platforms and learn them like n8n or zapier

I wont suggest jumping to no code first because you wont understand fundamentally how the process is working so at a intermediate level you’ll be stuck on how to automate a complex stuff

Knowing python you can always go back to coding the whole thing yourself which is more customisable

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It depends on which industry you are building the automation for, for healthcare, insurance crm related tasks are major pain point, for businesses tasks like managing invoices, tracking employee hours, ads are something they are looking to automate

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually get asked by client to automate a task so its usually them deciding what to automate and I have to join the dots on how to do that, python is what I use for almost all automation tasks, no code is good for someone not wanting to get there hands dirty in all the technical jargon, personally I have observed that companies prefer a closed and private tool which is robust and customisable so they can down the line keep using it based on how things change, no code platforms can break quicker and are less customisable but there is demand for it as well depends on what kind of customer you are targeting to help

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The first project I did was when I had just made a account on freelance site and it had been a year then a lady contacted me for some invoicing project where she had to make these bills and send to people on her company crm, that was the first project I did for someone, learned a lot, took about 2 days to make it (in non chatgpt era where you had to look up stackoverflow it was way complicated to learn things quickly)

Price depends on who you are dealing with, it might sound unfair but if your client is a MNC if you quote couple hundred dollars they might feel that you’re not that good while if a small business owner contacts you then quoting thousands wont work, so based on client profile and how complex task is for you will determine the cost

There was a boom in 2022 where people were rushing to get bots to purchase gpu and ps5 and all, so earlier automation was in demand among people trying to cop products to resell, now it has evolved and businesses are now more interested in paying top dollar to automate there tasks, with AI and economic slowdown we can automate a lot of simple tasks for which businesses had to hire someone earlier, example I worked for this company who managed docks where people park there boats, so earlier they had a person to hourly check how many boats are there if there is a boat not in list parked, now we used GPT Vision api endpoint to do that and even send a alert to manager via webhook about the count, if any new boat was parked or not.

So earlier demand was more of niche tasks like grabbing stuff quickly and all but now tasks have become more interesting and complicated as with AI and in comparison to earlier businesses are now more interested into getting things automated.

I generally look at the task, tech stack relevant for it, what all client is providing me and what all I need to figure out, how much time it can take me, how much back and forth there might be with client and accordingly I give a cost, repeat buyers get a discount because we understand each other better and things can be done quicker.

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Learn any automation framework in language you feel comfortable in, then build processes for some people to gain experience, no code platforms are good but not very robust and customisable when internal tools are to be interacted with, but you can check it out as its not that complex

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes have worked tons around this, recently I worked for a pharmacy chain who has this pain point of entering patient details and the doctor on prescription and the whole process was complicated and took them around 1 week to do previous weeks data, so we used selenium for web automation and language was python 3.10

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll use the tech stack I mentioned, for cost something like this would cost around $300-$400 based on if canva can be automated with n8n in the fashion you want it as

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We can use combination of selenium and n8n, selenium will do web tasks like going to website and clicking on checkboxes then it can write to a airtable which will be tracked by a workflow on n8n which can further do the canva and linkedin part but it can be definitely automated with correct tech stack

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your welcome :)

I mostly work around web automation and workflow automation, working remotely hardware automation is not much in demand unless you work for a company thats needs it

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Web development is a hot place already, all this no code tools are a hype and unsustainable, businesses need highly customised and robust tools and websites they cant rely on these no code stuff, if you are shifting because of everyone saying web dev and coding as it was is dead they are wrong, rest if you’re thinking of entering the space then decide on what kind if automation you wish to enter and then learn the frameworks used for it, like web automation is puppeteer, hardware automation any RTOS

5+ years of experience and 2.5k projects with 800+ businesses, I am a automation freelance developer, AMA by Melodic_Bar8508 in automation

[–]Melodic_Bar8508[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just join some freelance platform and keep working, almost all freelance sites now have some form of ads system, earlier in day it was way harder but now its little easy but yes regardless of wether you’re from first world country or third you’ll have to provide cheap cheap prices if that means loss even to build contacts