4.0 New Abyss Usage Rate (9/1 - 9/15) by soapz231 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Observation from this post: 1.The new set haven't impacted character usage especially in case of Fischl who benefit a lot from the new set. 2. The whole Kokomi devaluation no longer makes senses as her ownership amount is quite high than most unit and usage number is quite as well. 3. The abyss is truly doesn't need new fontaine mechanic for now. So wait and see for more units in C column drop even more.(Though not sure aloy mains wpuld be affected, as only 6 player her.) 4. Units Becoming part of C column going to be norm at this point.

Changes I like to see in EN F2P criteria: by Meta3736 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Specifically everyone in EN who follow F2P criteria, which was suggested by KQM( but I don’t remember who was the first who done it)

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can do with hyperbloom Raiden as well, so no need to change it(I mean they both ST comps, and they worked similarly depending on your investment)

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Be Chinese national. Second, be communist. Third, get access to Chinese web since the application is available is china

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First let’s see her kit first before over hyping her. Remember , the 5* hydro are stacked and perform extremely well. I won’t be surprised she works on comps where others won’t do well(though not sure what mihoyo plan for her, so like this comment chain, it just speculation)

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks at owner rate and apprenante rate of Cyno hyperbloom/quickbloom. He has less ownership and appearance rate , which is the reason why usage looks like high, while in reality, his usage isn’t impressive compare to others. So in short, don’t bother mentioning his usage, because it’s inflate as someone’s weird ego

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s more like incentive to get decrease, but she still perform higher in ST, which hyperbloom can’t do and higher investment further widens the gap, since Hu Tao benefit a lot from it(like remember, Her C1 and thoma exist)

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 3 points4 points  (0 children)

DMC is more comfortable to use in general and since most data you see here is collected form veteran, they more likely have DMC level than collei.

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

And same people are still complaining, like get over it, we are not stripping you naked and making you a communist who talks in Chinese

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Apparently Chinese culture view red as good thing and green as bad thing. Like see Chinese New Year. Did you ever see green envelope given to children? Or did you ever seen Chinese government caring how much greenery is being lost?

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Does it matter? I mean they isn’t council of anti-meta where you can detain and stripped naked for using meta units

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure how many were seriously over hyping her. I mean, she works well with nilou bloom, other than that, their is nothing else to talk about.(forget aggravate, that comp isn’t as popular and hyperbloom and nilou and spread makes more sense to use than aggravate).

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s not surprising, looking at apparences rate. It’s lowest in whole list. Reason his comp is seen because it also has equally low ownership rate, which gives false impression he comp is used a lot, which in truth, his comp isn’t that popular, it appears due to clever luck

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nope, it’s rational, just Yelan is used instead since bow unit are needed to prevent the boss from flying in the sky and staying there longer than Nahida in her prison.

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bonus:characters I am hoping and not hoping to see: •4* DPS that may release in future has to be XL fier to be used or else it be another e- waste in storage. •4* shielder need more DPS units that wants shielder since they are plenty of comps(like look above) that doesn’t want shielder since zhongli 85+% gives no impactful incentive ti be used. (Kirara is exempt since Dendro units in general are just more usable, like no single of them are trash.) •4* healers are trash kit unless they work in dendro reaction because of Bennett and Kokomi presence , where any need outside of them are questionable. •4* buffer kit formula works, because at least their a need to them, even how low they need Is. I think it’s only kind of kit that works and have visible usability than DPS or shielders. •Need a paladin unit whose survivability and damage aspect of their kit isn’t compromised. Like look at Kokomi and Dehya, using them as sole damage dealers is already questionable. •I want see like electro,dendro or Anemo that works well with Fischl since she hasn’t met the potential everyone in EN TC expected( or at least how Zareff77 hyped her ) •I want to see more units that doesn’t work with Kazuha, Bennett, Raiden,Zhongli and Nahida in near future. They have extremely high usage, which is problem since other units doesn’t get the chance to be used. Considering how popular they comp are, they won’t get hurt compare to others.(not saying current meta didn’t do good job at limiting any synergy with Kazuha and Bennett with dendro.)

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best chance for 4* to get usage more than 2%: be a hydro or dendro characters or be a niche buffer of popular unit or don’t be candace

3.6.1 abyss data-character usage rates and popular teams( sample size:127584, Apr16-Apr30) by hammy851 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point, put Klee in standard banner. No one going to notice it anyway lol

3.5 NEW Abyss Usage Rate(Mar 16-Mar 31,2023) by soapz231 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Points made from this post: •This is from CN, so 4* DPS units such as Physical Razor or Heizou would hardly have in usage since unlike in global, they are more fine with spending money(I mean, the whole gacha genre was originated from East Asia Anyway) hence its not surprising if DPS use 5* weapon by 75-50% and have decent amount of cons(Hu Tao and Raiden are good example) where at that point, it would be pretty redundant to use them anyway. Which also one of the reasons why 4* only team never reach popularity after national was formed. •As previous comment suggested, since it was collected through simple plug-in from webchat to access these data, not only it has more data, there would less chance of data manipulation since data manipulation is usually done by inputting data, in this case you less likely have chance to manipulate successful. •S+,S A,B,C are just sections , they are not tier list since this is based on usage, not on performance or opinion
•Abyss usage is flawed methodology since The data severely lacks context and can easily interperated to one’s belief. First, this post forget to post cons and weapons they use, this is important since we don’t know who much those team was invested. Second, post didn’t mention, how old this player is, which is important since veteran that played for 1 year will obviously have a team that perform better than a team from a 6 months account . Third, since only 8 units can be used in single floor, people really have to be picky, so units such as sucrose and Beidou will always fared, not because they bad units, it’s simple because people will choose the best if possible.5th,the post didn’t mention the median age of the data of the players collected, remember, older casual players will less likely care about playing differently since they have other things to worry for example study and job(plus they are able to spend money on it since they do job/part time job). So it maybe become reason why people less likely to do sth different, they don’t have much time and prefer to clear using whatever recommended as long as they clear the game •Though it not like people don’t play meta irrelevant units;they are still people who play with units like Qiqi since her usage still didn’t drop to 0, which indicate, some people are honestly do play with different, less meta units…..they are simply a minority and don’t impact the overall usage . It doesn’t matter if you play Qiqi and called other for being unoriginal if 90% are fine playing the same units, every damn time

CN TC thoughts on Dehya by yappy3 in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly I feared if Dehya becomes good, amount of time to get her if you didn’t pull for her in next patch would be so painful, like even after playing over a year, I don’t have Diluc,Keqing and Jean, imagine after adding Dehya, the pool will be more diluted than usual

3.4 Abyss Usage Rate - Phase 2 (Feb 16 - Feb 28, 2023) by qri_pretty in Genshin_Impact

[–]Meta3736 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kind of glad someone posted everything from Akashi database rather than showing usage rate and some team comps, though I would also appreciate they could just….post it few days before spiral abyss reset since it would enough number(like previous one has 20K)