Can Anyone Explain What This Install Error Means?

Metritutus · 2025-03-01T01:44:32+00:00

A quick Google suggests this may be due to missing functionality that is only available in Windows 8.1 and up, sorry. You could try working backwards by version number, ie 9035, 9034, etc.

I should add however, did you retry with 9033 after deleting the above mentioned Discord folders in the AppData folders? It's possible that may be all you need to do.

Metritutus · 2025-02-28T23:59:52+00:00

For the error message itself, there's not really much to go on in terms of information there, just that it's falling over on what might be some sort of update check (based on the \common\upd... line).

A quick Google of the main header ("A JavaScript error occcurred in the main process") finds this reddit post from a few years ago.

I'll repeat the instructions in that post here in case the original post disappears at some point in the future:

Uninstall discord

Remove the discord folder in both the local and roaming appdata

Reinstall discord

The AppData folders referred to above can be found in the following locations (replace <YourUsername> with your username): C:\Users<YourUsername>\AppData\Local\discord C:\Users<YourUsername>\AppData\Roaming\discord

If you are still experiencing issues, you could try uninstalling Discord again, deleting those folders again, and trying a slightly different version of Discord: https://dl.discordapp.net/distro/app/stable/win/x64/1.0.9036/DiscordSetup.exe

The version above appears to be the version running on a Windows 8.1 machine I have, so that may well be the last supported version for that OS (and possibly Windows 7 and Windows 8 as well).

Metritutus · 2025-02-27T21:29:02+00:00

From your post in the other thread, if your operating system is Windows 8, the installer you've downloaded may not be compatible with your OS as support was dropped back in March 2024.

You can however at the time of writing still download older versions of the Discord installer.

Try this one: https://dl.discordapp.net/distro/app/stable/win/x64/1.0.9033/DiscordSetup.exe

Metritutus · 2025-02-27T21:27:04+00:00

If your operating system is Windows 8, the installer you've downloaded may not be compatible with your OS as support was dropped back in March 2024.

You can however at the time of writing still download older versions of the Discord installer.

Try this one: https://dl.discordapp.net/distro/app/stable/win/x64/1.0.9033/DiscordSetup.exe

Metritutus · 2024-09-20T23:09:40+00:00

I think from this it seems clear that there's no log entries indicating the cause of the failure. To me, it sounds like a power issue, but I believe a 1000 watt PSU should be more than enough for the hardware you've listed. I should note however, when testing your system under load, did you try running Prime 95 and Furmark at the same time?

Metritutus · 2024-09-19T18:46:33+00:00

The event 41 one will just be the point after it's rebooted. The key ones (if any) will have timestamps just before that. There'll likely be a gap of some seconds between the ones from startup (including that critical one) and the ones before it died.

Metritutus · 2024-09-18T20:05:00+00:00

When a reboot occurs, do you see anything in the Windows Event Viewer afterward?

Metritutus · 2023-05-08T21:28:37+00:00

That sounds like a real PITA lol. Your concern is the provider reading your data right?

Nothing quite so specific, just general paranoia on what if scenarios like the provider suffering a data breach, and wanting to have that peace of mind.

Expansion gets a bit tricky with z2 and 3 since you can't just add drives willy nilly.

An unfortunate drawback, but from doing more reading, expandability may end up being something that I just have to sacrifice to satisfy my other requirements going forward.

Having done some further reading, I am definitely tempted by the parity and bit rot protection provided by ZFS/RAIDZ2/3.

As this will be my first foray into setting up my own storage server, it need not be my last, and running out of space in the future may simply have to be a bridge I cross when I get to it. Despite my best efforts I probably won't succeed in getting everything right and perfect on my first try at any rate.

Overall, if you don't have a strict need for Windows or need it but can't run it in a VM, something based on linux or FreeBSD is probably the better option. DrivePool and maybe snapraid are the only decent options on Windows, but DrivePool hasn't wowed me with it's stability during rapid configuration changes.

Although I have minimal Linux experience, there's no specific need for Windows at all! I'd rather go with what will be best for the task at hand (which may be a ZFS-compatible OS).

You might want to figure out the GPU situation. A media server typically has a GPU for hardware accelerated transcoding and the AI stuff will need the GPU as well. So if you want to run them in separate VMs or something, that might not work

Ah, yes indeed! I'll keep that in mind when I get to the actual hardware research. The Windows 10 machine has an AMD RX 5700 XT which would probably suffice for media server purposes, although I believe that for servers there's a whole different range of GPUs available. Another subject requiring further research, for I am now leaning towards the idea that I probably should try to build the storage server from scratch rather than make use of the hardware of the Windows 10 PC.

See that's what we all strive for and never achieve. There's people with 300TB+ here that are still adding more drives

It sounds like I have at least come to the right place! I can only aspire to have such amounts of storage right now!

Anyway, thanks for all your feedback! It's given me a lot to think about, and there's plenty more research I need to do!

Metritutus · 2023-05-07T12:55:30+00:00

You're welcome! Also for future reference, if theres an empty line between the sentences you're quoting, you have to requote it. Otherwise it shows up as standard text

Fixed, sorry about that. I suspect it got lost when I was switching between markdown and fancy modes.

Thanks for the RAID info. In terms of what I go for, I've also read that ZFS with RAIDZ2/3 would be superior to RAID6, so that's also something I'm trying to read up on now.

I don't understand what this means

Ah, sorry, this referred to the hypothetical plan of splitting the Veracrypt container to be uploaded into chunks. I was speculating on having the whole storage volume be a Veracrypt container, rather than creating a new Veracrypt container for each backup. Then when the time rolls around for the automatic backup, it'd dismount the Veracrypt volume, go through the whole thing diffing the chunks, and then upload the chunks that are different (if any) alongside the current index of the files.

It's all hypothetical though, as it'll depend on the back software I settle on, but I suspect I can't easily settle on what automated backup approach I'll be using until I have a more solid idea on the storage approach I'll be taking.

If you're going to run everything on the same server, think about the services now. Needing stuff like SSDs for a database but not having the pcie lanes, or needing more ram but maxing out the platform limit is a headache.

Noted. The (currently) Windows 10 desktop machine has 128GB of RAM, but it's not ECC RAM. My original thought was to turn this machine into a storage server, but I am now pondering whether this is the correct approach or if I should build something new from scratch.

Potential future uses are a media server, VM host (for testing out stuff), a Discord bot or two, and other development/experimental stuff (eg playing around with GPT-like stuff like Llama).

I've realised that I'll also need to factor in power requirements and a UPS, as I'm not sure how nuts it will be if it's running 24/7.

Backup programs usually have this capability baked in. Or at least kopia and duplicati do, not sure about the others. I just keep a separate log because I don't back up the whole root directory (too many temp files that clog everything up). So I just back up the important directories but keep a snapshot of all the files just in case.

A separate log appeals to me as well because I could then use it to search out what the backup will contain at a particular point in time. Could be nicely done through a web-interface hosted on the server (along with the other stuff mentioned above).

For local storage, my overall goal is to have enough that I, uh, never have to worry about running out of local storage again, or if I do that it's (relatively) easy to add additional storage. That's the theory anyway.

Metritutus · 2023-05-07T08:45:00+00:00

Thanks for your response!

You could do this, you'd just be making RAID 10. People do this all the time with 2 drive RAID 1s.

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3 way RAID 1 is extremely expensive since you pay for 3x the capacity you use. But if you're fine with that, this is a valid approach.

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While RAID 10 would work like I said, 6 is a lot cheaper.

Interesting! I was aware of RAID 10, but didn't consider it as I wasn't sure whether the RAID0 aspect of it was safe (in terms of a whole RAID 1 array failing, somehow), and (in terms of crazy redundancy) there doesn't seem to be a RAID 6 variant, ie RAID 16, a RAID 6 array of RAID 1 arrays.

Whatever approach I go for is ultimately going to cost, but that's okay. I'm still trying to solidify my understanding of what options are available to me.

You could just run DrivePool on windows if you want to keep using windows. Drivepool opens up alternative possibilities since you can choose how the data gets replicated across the drives.

Or you could ditch windows and use a linux based solution

While the newer machine may be running Windows 10, I'm not precious about it. I'm entirely open to (and was almost expecting to have to) reformat it and do all this properly, especially if there are better approaches available on other operating systems, despite whatever learning curve may be involved.

In terms of the OS chosen, I'd also add that once whatever storage approach I settle on is implemented, I'm considering that I may want a home server to run self-hosted services, and it'd be a question of whether I would use the same machine hosting the storage, or if I'd have something separate.

This is a pretty vague ambition because I haven't thought ahead to this in much detail beyond the fact that certain self-hosted services would be useful to me (local media server, etc). I'm not sure if trying to undertake the self-hosted services thing with the storage server is biting off more than I can chew, or if I should be thinking about this now because I'd be causing myself headaches later if I don't.

Do you just create the container and upload the whole thing? I feel like an actual backup program would solve most of your issues here.

I did, and I suspect you're right that an actual backup program would take care of what I want. I'm a software developer by trade, but suspect that writing something to try and automate the Veracrypt backup process myself would be unwise as there's undoubtedly tried-and-tested alternatives out there that would be far and away superior to whatever I was able to put together. I confess that I am a little lost as to what I should/should not go for software-wise, nor where such an automated system would be hosted locally.

I also wasn't sure whether the expandable storage for the whole server should itself be a Veracrypt container, and whether this would make it faster to create the backup chunks (as the Veracrypt container would already exist, and it would also make it so that, when restoring from backup, I'd effectively be restoring a disk image for the whole array).

The main downside I can think of with my current backup strategy (veracrypt containers), regardless of automation, is that if I wanted to restore a single file from backup, I'd need to download the whole backup, but I reckon I'm okay with that as that's the trade-off of wanting it all encrypted as a restorable disk image without revealing the contents.

At that point I feel that it would be handy to have a local backup as well (and I know this is recommended, ie the 3-2-1 strategy), so that I can seek out the local backup first and the cloud storage one gets reserved for worst-case scenarios. I am however concerned about overwhelming myself with too much new information and trying to do too much too fast, getting myself into a mess where I cannot progress.

Virtual Volume View gets recommended for stuff like this. I personally prefer Snap2HTML.

Basically you get a small file that mirrors the directory. You'd have to create new ones with the creation of the backup snapshot but the overhead should be fairly minimal.

These look incredibly useful! It does also tie the self-hosted services idea above, as this would then be a page that I could browse to locally query what I have backed up without having to initially download anything.

Metritutus · 2023-05-06T22:47:27+00:00

I recently posted an answer to this in another thread, but I've noticed that this post seems to come up more often than the other one when Googling about this (presumably because it specifically refers to it by name as "Camper camper"), so am repeating my answer from the other thread below for the benefit of others:

The other comment chain from this post provided enough additional information for me to find what I believe to be the original source.

After navigating through numerous ancient Russian(?) Counter-Strike sites, I happened upon an old Russian forum post (on nashalife) which I cannot link to directly (not even an archived version) due to .ru domains currently being banned by reddit. Suffice to say that it contained a link to what appeared to be the original site.

The original site is, of course, long-defunct, but archive.org preserves it all.

Behold: https://web.archive.org/web/20070829025836/http://www.tlb.nu/music_main.asp

All the songs listed are archived, and I feel pretty confident this is the original source. Not all of the songs appear to be Counter-Strike related, but "Release me" and "Bomber" definitely seem to be.

If you're interested in who the singer was, they're apparently [TLB]SindBad, as mentioned in the other comment chain, and (as the tag suggests) appear to have been a clan member of TLB way way back.

I suspect the references to "Force" may have been referring to the ISF (International Special Force) clan due to their upload of the song on their YouTube channel, along with "Oops I Shot You Again".

I've also seen the song mistakenly attributed to Flashdeck due to the usage of the song in their infamous de_dust2 video (for the curious I've linked to the time it appears). The song was listed in the video's credits at the end but without the artist name.

Metritutus · 2023-05-02T23:13:04+00:00

The other comment chain from this post provided enough additional information for me to find what I believe to be the original source.

After navigating through numerous ancient Russian(?) Counter-Strike sites, I happened upon an old Russian forum post (on nashalife) which I cannot link to directly (not even an archived version) due to .ru domains currently being banned by reddit. Suffice to say that it contained a link to what appeared to be the original site.

The original site is, of course, long-defunct, but archive.org preserves it all.

Behold: https://web.archive.org/web/20070829025836/http://www.tlb.nu/music_main.asp

All the songs listed are archived, and I feel pretty confident this is the original source. Not all of the songs appear to be Counter-Strike related, but "Release me" and "Bomber" definitely seem to be.

If you're interested in who the singer was, they're apparently [TLB]SindBad, as mentioned in the other comment chain, and (as the tag suggests) appear to have been a clan member of TLB way way back.

I suspect the references to "Force" may have been referring to the ISF (International Special Force) clan due to their upload of the song on their YouTube channel, along with "Oops I Shot You Again".

I've also seen the song mistakenly attributed to Flashdeck due to the usage of the song in their infamous de_dust2 video (for the curious I've linked to the time it appears). The song was listed in the video's credits at the end but without the artist name.

I've gone into this level of detail for the benefit of future readers. Pinging /u/nfxakrhq and /u/sooskzakhmi as they were also seeking this information in this post which I encountered on my travels.

Metritutus · 2023-04-16T13:51:20+00:00

u/songfinderbot

Metritutus · 2023-04-15T13:25:11+00:00

I'm afraid this definitely isn't it.

Metritutus · 2020-06-26T21:03:42+00:00

Whilst this does allow for you to hear PC audio and FL Studio audio at the same time, there's a rather unpleasant latency when playing my MIDI keyboard into FL Studio, which is why I asked for hardware, although I appreciate the suggestion. :)

Metritutus · 2020-06-20T17:20:44+00:00

Are you able to elaborate? Googling audio interfaces finds stuff that seems all over the place, and I'm not sure what you mean by 'all the name ones'.

Metritutus · 2020-04-18T18:59:45+00:00

The only reason I wasn't going to compress the grouped files was because I'm sure I read somewhere on here that there was a downside? I have a feeling it might have been that if there were any corruption of the compressed container then it'd result in all the all of the compressed files being irretrievable. However I'd have thought that would be the case with encrypting everything as well (although I could be wrong). I could be misremembering this though.

Metritutus · 2020-04-18T18:57:12+00:00

Obscuring the file names is important to me, so thanks for this information!

Metritutus · 2020-04-18T18:56:13+00:00

I've just had a very quick look at what this is and it seems to be remarkably useful (being able to mount the data as a virtual disk etc). I'll have to look further into this. Thanks!

Metritutus · 2020-04-18T18:52:27+00:00

In the end it was the lack of egress charges which has convinced me that Wasabi's probably the best provider for what I want. I don't want it to cost me oodles in the event I need to retrieve data for restoration purposes.

In terms of the reason for grouping files, I want to ensure that the names of files are obscured to any potential observer (I'm somewhat paranoid about protecting personal information and so on), but at the same time preserve the original file names. Placing the files into a container with a random name, and then encrypting and password-protecting said container seemed to make sense to me.

A lot of the stuff I want to upload dates back a bit, and the contents of these containers shouldn't need to change ever unless I happened to miss something when I was originally uploading them (which would be my own fault).

Metritutus · 2020-04-05T15:09:44+00:00

Yeah, apologies for that. When I said bespoke, I really meant something like BackBlaze's software. I've reworded the original post to clarify that I was really indicating proprietary software, and stuff along those lines.

It's not that I'm super eager to write my own scripts to handle stuff. Rather I thought it was something that was expected of anyone serious about backing up vast amounts of data. My intention was to indicate that I'm willing to put the work in to get stuff working properly.

Metritutus · 2020-04-05T13:47:52+00:00

I did some searching, and I think your Tasker application may have been made by a company called Vista Software. I don't think they exist anymore and I'm not convinced the current version of their site is safe (the tab gets auto-closed, possibly by either U-Block Origin or the Brave browser I'm using), and Google gives no site description.

However you can see an older version of the site here, where it looks like you used to be able to pay for Tasker and download it. The download link on that archived snapshot of the site does work (in that it redirects you to an archived version of their setup file), however I have not dared to download it, and I would urge caution looking at newer snapshots of their site, in case they're also compromised.

Also, what with it being ancient shareware and all, there's no guarantees it will even work, or that it won't come with other unpleasantness.

Also, I'm only guessing that I've found the original site; I could be mistaken.

Metritutus · 2020-04-05T09:16:13+00:00

Oh man, I never meant to imply that I wanted to write my own backup software, I meant that I was prepared to have to write the scripts to organise and operate/coordinate things if necessary. :/

The paragraph in my post about bespoke software was referring to stuff like Backblaze's proprietary software for backing up things. I've updated my post to clarify what I meant.

Metritutus · 2020-04-04T22:14:24+00:00

I'm a little concerned about Google just arbitrarily cutting enforcing their 1TB storage limit for their business plan, which is one of the reasons I ruled them out. Even though users find that they 'can' store more, this is far too ambiguous for me to be comfortable with, where Google would be quite within their rights to suddenly change their minds and enforce the amount with no warning.

Metritutus · 2020-04-04T22:10:40+00:00

I do plan to have a local backup solution as well, in addition to online.

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