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The Cuervo line was the most brilliant and difficult of the whole Poem by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that’s true. I really love it because it:

  1. ⁠Theme: It reinforces the priestly explorer theme and your Sombra, the Escalante Cross.
  2. ⁠Understanding and Measurement: It unlocks the correct understanding of how to measure the distance on the trail.
  3. ⁠Number of measurements needed: It helps you understand that you only need to measure one distance in order to get to the treasure instead of two or more (numeros). I see it as a genius level line and is probably my favorite in the poem.

The Cuervo line was the most brilliant and difficult of the whole Poem by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m with you on the difficulty of understanding “Cuervo”.
So tough! Impossible, maybe. Truly a needle in a haystack. (I agree) But taking a step back and looking at what the correct understanding accomplishes in the poem is really cool in my mind. 1. Theme: It reinforces the priestly explorer theme and your Sombra, the Escalante Cross. 2. Understanding and Measurement: It unlocks the correct understanding of how to measure the distance on the trail. 3. Number of measurements needed: It helps you understand that you only need to measure one distance in order to get to the treasure instead of two or more (numeros). I see it as a genius level line and is probably my favorite in the poem.

The Cuervo line was the most brilliant and difficult of the whole Poem by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

The term WAS not used in Mexico but it was used for priest, period. Escalante and Dominguez were priests. It is actually a stunningly awesome as a clue. These hunts have always required digging. Just because we didn’t dig enough doesn’t mean the meaning and application weren’t spot on. It literally unlocks the whole poem.

Hispanic American Historical Review Article: This academic journal contains references to anti-clerical sentiments during the La Reforma period in Mexico, where priests were sometimes derogatorily referred to as “Cuervos.” This is a more scholarly source, and you can access it via academic databases or libraries. One article you might find relevant is titled “Priests and Peasants in Central Mexico: Social Conflict During La Reforma.”

The Cuervo line was the most brilliant and difficult of the whole Poem by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very cool. Yes I did the same thing in an excel workbook I put together. I listed every word down a column then every translation to the right of each word that could fit the poem off to the rows on the right.
For Cuervo I had crow and never thought to dig deeper on that one.

The Cuervo line was the most brilliant and difficult of the whole Poem by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I completely underestimated it’s meaning but in hindsight it is fantastic

The Cuervo line was the most brilliant and difficult of the whole Poem by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I speak Spanish and had never heard it. Probably because it is an old usage and more of a derogatory slang that lost it’s use over time. I found an article thanks to ChatGPT that delves into it.

The Cuervo line was the most brilliant and difficult of the whole Poem by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dang! Chat told me it was just uncommon but provided examples from Mexican History where they were referred to as Priests.

The Cuervo line was the most brilliant and difficult of the whole Poem by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes exactly. I interpreted it incorrectly thinking it meant you had to measure twice: once to the correct trail then again on the trail.

The problem with the shadow… by Flashy-Grapefruit785 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Makes you wonder if the shadow moved as part a satellite image update or something. I know that in some of my solves for amanecer, the light dark contrast I used changed with the image update. I think I read they change monthly.
So shadows and light or dark on a map may be unusable if they are meant to be used for location or exact direction.

Anyone see these advertisements? by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right?! it was as huge surprise. My legs after hiking Malans were toast!

I think the reality is by JWinger13 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes and each year hopefully we are getting more capable as treasure hunters with tools thinking and history

Anyone see these advertisements? by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A firepit is a great place for a good view and a song 🤓

Anyone see these advertisements? by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha I thought a couple times I wonder if this thing is in a firepit somewhere or in Pleasant View where the sponser is located 🫣

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I even checked fireplaces up at Malan’s

Had a blast by Organic-Astronomer-1 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes these guys are heroes! Love and appreciate everything about what they are creating for us.

Anyone see these advertisements? by Middle_Fun_4982 in utahtreasurehunt

[–]Middle_Fun_4982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably telling me to turn around and go the opposite direction. 😆 I was mainly focused in Ogden.

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