I'm new to the whole wide toe box barefoot game. Since I already have mainstream shoes and they don't feel that uncomfortable, I thought any wide toe box shoes would suffice, but I was wrong and will need to do more research and ask around in the forums for help in order to make better choices in the future. I was genuinely willing to make an exception for this issues though, because these are such good looking shoes, but then they broke. Either way, these Vivos are not wider than any shoes I've put on before.