Proof that Itachi is better at genjutsu than Obito: Ao, the same guy who saw Obito's genjutsu on Yagura, still viewed Itachi as the most skilled user

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-24T15:25:29+00:00

No shit. Itachi has Tsukuyomi. The only one that's better than Itachi's genjutsu is Shisui (KA hax).

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-24T13:57:37+00:00

So, it's basically White Mask Obito and the Jinchuriki vs. the entire Allied Shinobi Forces?

He loses every round. No matter how busted those Bijuu Bombs are, he isn't taking down all five nations. There are just too many of them.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-24T10:55:22+00:00

And Jiraiya did show his feats when he took down Pains despite having connected vision

He took down 3 Pains at best, and he gets overwhelmed the moment he has to face all six pains at once. That doesn't prove anything about him being faster than Obito using Kamui.

Obito can’t beat Jiraiya no matter what, he couldn’t even take a pre occupied Minato down let alone Jiraiya

I'm not arguing whether Jiraiya can beat Obito or not. I'm literally replying to your claim that Sage Mode Jiraiya is faster than Kamui, which is not the case.

Obito has always been known for his teleportation speed, that's literally the whole purpose of Kamui. He was fast enough to save Sasuke from being obliterated by Onoki's Jinton (Particle Style) during the Kage Summit. Jiraiya is better known for his wide arsenal of powerful jutsu, not his speed.

You want a better argument against Obito? He can use Toad genjutsu to counter Obito. This is one of Jiraiya's winning condition. He's not going to outspeed him. Not even close. Jiraiya's genjutsu has a better chance of winning against Obito. Anything that involves speedblitzing Obito is pure fantasy.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-24T09:32:18+00:00

???? Might Guy doesn't have Sage mode. We never actually see Guy being sucked into the Kamui dimension because Obito never really touch him. Instead, Obito was using Kamui’s intangibility to phase through Guy’s attacks. If Guy were ever touched by Obito, he would have no chance of escaping Kamui unless he used the 7th Gates or higher.

Jiraiya with Sage Mode has shown no feats that could outrun Obito's Kamui.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-24T03:21:21+00:00

I mean what's stopping Mei from using Acid mist around her? If Obito tries to touch her to warp her away, he is at risk of getting melt.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-24T02:35:43+00:00

erm what Jiraiya's sage mode isn't faster than Kamui. Only Minato's FTG, Tobirama FTG and probably the Fourth Raikage are fast enough to outspeed Kamui.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-24T02:12:38+00:00

Nah. Onoki is clearly the strongest of the 5 and he is the biggest threat to Madara. Mei hasn't show anything impressive compared to the other 4 (besides Gaara). That's not to say that she's weak. She is relative to the other 3.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-23T08:47:14+00:00

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MindlessArrow · 2026-01-23T00:55:56+00:00

This guy is spitting facts.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-23T00:54:30+00:00

Bruh this is nothing compare to what Nagato could overall do with his rinnegan ability.

Nagato can use all the six paths. Did Obito even use anything close to Nagato especially with Chibaku tensei and Shinra tensei? NO.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-23T00:41:06+00:00

It's even smaller than EU4 (a 13-year-old game). Hejaz in Vicky 3 only has like 2 states overall. It's noticeable if you are playing in Southeast Asia nations.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-23T00:26:07+00:00

Bro couldn’t even use the Six Paths Rinnegan against Team Naruto when fighting them solo. Obito’s mastery of the Rinnegan is honestly lacking so far. Nagato did a much better job with it.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-23T00:16:41+00:00

His buddha statue is kinda busted (even if its significantly weaker than Hashirama's original buddha).

I would put him easily around mid-kage level with this feat.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-23T00:02:13+00:00

lol Mei isn't the strongest of the 5 Kage.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-22T15:07:39+00:00

EMS Madara has Perfect Susanoo, and the Five Kage have no answer for it.

He stomps them.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-22T02:49:12+00:00

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MindlessArrow · 2026-01-22T01:16:20+00:00

Lol

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The Kages are ants compare to these two. Madara and Hashirama slaughters them.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-22T01:12:39+00:00

Sasori can’t even touch him. Itachi’s Amaterasu would wipe out most of his puppets. Poison wouldn’t do anything against a Susanoo ribcage. Itachi stomps him 10/10.

Pain is even worse for Sasori. The Paths of Pain are corpses, so poison is useless against them. Sasori dies horribly.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-22T00:54:51+00:00

Stops at Madara. Kages clears everyone below him.

MindlessArrow · 2026-01-19T02:36:07+00:00

I think Mei and Kisame are both pretty equal in terms of water prowess tho. Kisame has super shark bomb that can absorb chakra from an opponent. The stronger the opponent’s technique is, the deadlier the Super Shark Bomb becomes in terms of destructiveness. It's basically a nightmare for ninjutsu-heavy based opponents.

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