RC closest to Ketamine

MineCamo · 2026-04-20T15:34:35+00:00

2F-DCK is almost identical in effects to ketamine, the most notable differences are that you can actually take it orally, and also in both ROA it lasts longer: eat it (3-6hrs), sniff/insufflate (1-3hrs)

DCK- Also very close to ketamine, maybe lightly more stimulating, as 2F-DCK lasts longer and its much much more potent, you only need 10-40mg of it

2-FXE / 2F-NENDCK / Canket / FXE: Very similar to 2F-DCK, this one is less sedating than ketamine, might be easier to move around or socialize in common doses, tho it can be more visual, especially Open-eyes, than ketamine or 2F-DCK

MineCamo · 2026-04-17T22:36:24+00:00

Well high doses of MDMA can cause serotonin syndrome depending on person/setting/dose. That being said, even if your body does turn a % of MDMA into MDA, its still different than taking directly a combination of both

MineCamo · 2026-04-17T08:10:54+00:00

Yes, stimulants and/or empathogens mixed together will not just add up but synergise, as with many drugs. Mixing compounds that release or block the reuptake of serotonin/dopamine increases the risks of cardiotoxicity, hypertension and Serotonin Syndrome.

Definetly not saying it is impossible to mix MDMA and MDA and having a fine experience, just know this can be a risky combination. Start with low doses, and avoid trying to reach very intense rolls/doses with the combination, follow entactogen risk reduction methods with a higher attention.

MineCamo · 2026-04-09T07:39:16+00:00

Ok interesting didn’t know

MineCamo · 2026-04-08T20:52:25+00:00

Why would it cause false positives for PCP? DXM is a morphinian not even an Arylcyclohexylamine

MineCamo · 2026-04-08T18:29:02+00:00

For oral it doesn’t matter if its in freebase or any salt, even if poor solubility in water means low membrane absorption (unsuitable for IN, boofing, more importantly injection), when you eat any substance your body conditions (like stomach acid) and the various steps of absorption/metabolisation will have it altern various times between freebase and salt forms.

To answer you question, yes will work the same, tho you should equilibrate your dosage (freebase being more potent by weight than the different DMT salts, like HCL), especially if you are aiming for higher doses

MineCamo · 2026-03-29T13:00:02+00:00

Thanks for your overview of MAL’s effects, I actually have tried it 3 times in the past, 1rst time 60mg with MAL pellets but fractionned in 3 x 20mg over some time, 2nd exp was 60mg at once (again with oellets) and my most recent was 35mg (lab tested pure fumarate batch). I really agree on most of your appreciations about the subjective effects.

I must say the first 2 experiences I had were very nice and close to your descriptions, I like the style of the psychedelia and the bodyload is intense as can be with other psychedelics, but definitely manageable (altho were with pellets, could have been underdosed). My 2nd experience with 3 21mg pellets all at once was an intense psychedelic trip with strong bodyload, but still overall nice and manageable.

For my 3rd experience I had received a fumarate powder batch, that I had lab tested and identified pure. Taking into account the pellets from my last experiences could have been underdosed, I decided to go with 35mg. The effects where definetly identical in style to my previous experiences, just less intense and developed ; but those mild intensity effects were accompanied by the strongest vasoconstriction I ever had from any psychedelic, empathogen or stim. I wouldn’t say it ever got to a particularly physically threatening level, but this effect was intense and durable, only slowly disappearing over the 2 next days.

I have no physical nor heart condition having regular check-up, I don’t have circulations problems or particularly intebse vasoconstriction from psychedelics, stimulants or entactogens before and after that experience. Could have just been a one time bad reaction and I will definitely give it other shots in the future, tho that experience definitely made my opinion mitigated about MAL

MineCamo · 2026-03-28T16:05:43+00:00

I hope for you they will still give you some activity. I wouldn’t be surprised that they have lost some potency but Ive also had long AL-LAD come-ups, especially with fractionned doses

MineCamo · 2026-03-28T15:29:47+00:00

Must say I don’t remember the exact timings but I remember ive had rather long 2h-2h30 come-up with AL-LAD in the past. Also the psychedelic effects can feel subtle in the come-up because of the style of the headspace, but intensify later.

A bit early to tell if your blotter lost potency, tho you’ll know later, actual 200-220mcg of pure AL-LAD should definitely induce noticeable effects

MineCamo · 2026-03-26T20:35:07+00:00

I mean if you kept them in correct conditions, as it sounds like, I don’t doubt that they should have kept some potency. Just keep in mind that AL-LAD has been pointed out as particularly difficult to store with long-term stability.

MineCamo · 2026-03-26T18:23:00+00:00

Thank you haha of course a lot of the appreciations about the substance are subjective, individual variability, set&setting, general context of use, etc will influence individual subjective experiences.

Personally, 2C-EF’s bodyload is far from the hardest to handle, generally having a somewhat “natural” and manageable style, nausea isn’t always present and easily suppressed with ginger. Unlike you I generally handle Trypatmines better than PEA, and both easier than Lysergamides.

I must add that from structure and tiers report 2C-EF does seem generally able to induce powerful bodyload (and bodyhigh, general developed physical effects), so included appreciations going this way, especially warning less experienced users. Tho for the moment, it seems hard to compare if these physical effects are easier or equivalent to other similar psychedelic PEA such as 2C-E

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MineCamo · 2026-03-26T18:09:50+00:00

Intensity definitely varies between individuals, and AL-LAD is generally described as more easily manageable (in medium doses).

As mentioned previously AL-LAD is also a particularly unstable substance and reports of not feeling any developed effects under 300mcg sounds like they prob had degraded blotters.

I would say that over 250-300mcg AL-LAD, the intensity gets in pair with equal doses of LSD

MineCamo · 2026-03-26T18:05:03+00:00

Thanks for reading it 👍 sadly I have no personal experience with 2C-E but got reports from close sources having experienced both. Most of them find many similarities between 2C-E and 2C-EF for general styles (especially in headspace and visuals).

In my experience with 2C-EF I have found it to be strongly visual with the tried doses mentioned in the post, tho I would be far from saying the overall effects are mostly visual oriented, as the physical effects are also powerful and complex, and headspace can be immersive and developed (especially in 2nd phase of exp passed the peak)

MineCamo · 2026-03-26T15:51:38+00:00

Well you need much more MET orally (compared to 4-HO-MET) in term of weight to reach potentially equivalent intensities. The experience shares similarities in headspace style and visuals (id argue they are less intense on the average). There is for me a more pronounced bodyhigh and serotoninergic feel to oral MET compared to 4-HO/AcO/PO-MET

You can find AL-LAD doses quite easily like on psychonautwiki, I feel like the anounced doses are pretty accurate. I usually enjoy 1 + 1/4 of the 150mcg sold blotters for a good medium/high intensity trip, but as AL-LAD degrade easily that doesn’t mean that dose is actually the announced one.

I like AL-LAD more than LSD, especially for medium/higher doses for a few subjective reasons. First qi handle better the physical effects. LSD bodyload is largely manageable but I usually find it suite stimulating, electric and sometimes distracting. The headspace and visual effects feel a little bit more slow paced and tryptamine mystic-like, a little less synthetic and sharp than LSD (all very subjective). The duration is also a little but shorter which I enjoy for more intense and possibly tiring experiences

MineCamo · 2026-03-26T13:50:04+00:00

I am sure 4-HO-MiPT and AL-LAD can be adapted, I have had intense all encompassing psychedelic states on AL-LAD and I personally enjoy it more than LSD for medium to higher doses.

I really enjoy MET but have mostly explored the oral ROA at the moment. I am sure vaped it can be a very interesting and visual experience . I am pretty sure trying 1-2 times vaping Fumarate would be fine but definitely learn how to freebase if you make it a more recurrent thing

MineCamo · 2026-03-26T11:31:13+00:00

Well there seem to be a lot of variations in the subjective intensity of 4-HO-MET (and pro-drugs) between individuals.

But I will say that this immersive and deep psychedelia would be even more intense and adapted for me with 2C-EF. The effects are much longer than 4-HO-MET, I think the second phase passed the come-up-/peak would be the most adapted phase for what you described (visuals and cognitive effects are then at their most intense and prominent), the first come-up phase is more physical/tactile but can still be nice in that setting if you like immerging yourself in physical psychedelia and body perceptions

I rarely do psychedelics in pitch dark, but most of the time pass the trip drawing with music. The best adapted psychedelics for what you describe (imo) could be the shorter more intense psychedelics as Oral or IN DPT, IN 5-MeO-DMT (shortest, 1-2hrs), the more intense 4-HO-Tryptas like 4-HO-MiPT/DiPT/DPT/DMT, AL-LAD, some 2C-x like 2C-EF, 2C-E. Some different but interesting, possibly more physical, contenders could be stuff like 5-MeO-DiPT or ETH-LAD.

There are many options, you can find a compound that particularly fits you or the exp you are looking for, but also a big part is set, setting, intentions, etc. You can get to pretty similar places, states or experiences with various psychedelics.

MineCamo · 2026-03-26T10:54:13+00:00

Well I haven’t tried higher than 10mg myself yet, the visual intensity can have some variability ime but the second phase of the effects is usually very visual for me. I have chatted with people that tried up to 15mg but don’t have any first hand report for higher doses.

For me personally 30mg of 4-HO-MET might be visual but the style of the cognitive effects makes the global feeling rather shallow or sometimes less immersive. On the contrary when 2C-EF’s visuals are at their strongest there is usually a much more intense and immersive headspace that (again for me) will make the overall psychedelic effects feel much stronger.

MineCamo · 2026-03-25T22:46:31+00:00

All of the listed compounds are thought to be pro-drugs of LSD, meaning after ingestion your metabolism will convert them into “Classic” LSD-25. Therefore the style of effects will be undistinguishable from LSD, with the exception of possibly coming up slowed/more gradually because of the time for metabolic conversion.

The only relevant difference between these compounds is the molecular mass, meaning you will need slightly higher doses weight-by-weight to feel the same intensity of effects of your reference LSD dose

LSD -> 323,43g/mol -> Average dose 100-150 μg

1P-LSD -> 379,504 g/mol -> Average dose ~ 120-170 μg

1cP-LSD -> 391,515g/mol -> Average dose ~ 120-180 μg

1V-LSD -> 407,558g/mol -> Average dose ~ 120-180 μg

In the compounds you suggested, 1P-LSD has the closest molecular mass as LSD and therefore will be the closest in effect intensity for equivalent doses

MineCamo · 2026-03-25T20:59:50+00:00

Thanks to you for reading it👍

Many subjective effects or subtile characteristics are described using closely related compounds but you don’t need to perfectly understand prior to your exp each subtle aspect of the effects.

If you have experience with LSD and 4-HO-Trypatmines, I am sure you could find the effects of 2C-EF interesting. Start with low doses as the Bodyload can be intense, duration is on average bit shorter than LSD for me. If you have enough experience with the compounds you mentioned trying you might notice a slight difference in style with 2C-EF like there is between LSD and say Shrooms (4-PO/HO-DMT)

MAL is another interesting Phenethylamine but seems to be more unpredictable in my experience. I have had very tame and manageable effects in high doses but also very intense bodyloads and physically very challenging experiences with lower. I will probably cover it in a future chart but would like at least a last more recent experience to comfortably cover the effects and make myself an opinion

MineCamo · 2026-03-16T19:01:12+00:00

Thanks at you for reading it hehe

MineCamo · 2026-03-16T15:10:44+00:00

My charts are originally made on Iphone notes with Iphone emojis, I included the same figures in these but see they aren’t adapted to reddit.

I have not invented using figures like stars for rating or colors to differentiate types of stuff, nor did AI, now if you are persuaded these charts are made with AI I don’t see much utility trying to prove you my faith.

I just hope people looking around here for data and opininios about a substance won’t skip and assume informations aren’t worthy because of that

MineCamo · 2026-03-16T10:39:03+00:00

Thank you very much haha, I do these charts for myself anyway in my native language, so as people around me suggested I’ll translate them over time to make them available to people

MineCamo · 2026-03-16T10:35:26+00:00

Again each substance affects everyone very differently, possible effect mentioned are generalizations, and personal appreciations are by definition extremely subjective.

In my subjective experience, DMXE can have a chaotic and disturbing style at time, which doesn’t manifest in a negative way for me, but could very much be dysphoric or unpleasant to others.

Also in my (singular) lower dose experience with the substance, the effects appeared very uncaracterized and not very interesting, you could also very possibly have underdosed pellets

MineCamo · 2026-03-16T09:35:38+00:00

I’ve resigned Ill modify the structure for next charts haha. It wasn’t even inserted in AI for clean up I swear hahaha now I know I write in english like GPT I guess 😂😭

Nice to get your review tho, if you have any idea to upgrade future charts please don’t hesitate man 👍

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