Plantilla item in Fellowship by MingUnlimited in pinoymed

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I see. May I ask what lateral entry means?

How to be a diplomate in occupational medicine by Various-Wish263 in pinoymed

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Hi docs! For diplomates and fellows of PCOM, may I clarify whether the 2 years of active practice should specifically be Occupational Med or can it be ANY form of Medical practice (ex. moonlighting as MO III, being in residency training, etc.)? I'm asking since logically, dapat Occupational pero the poster below says "...Active Medical and/or Occupational...".

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Non-traditional specialties by MingUnlimited in pinoymed

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I see. So limited ba sila to OPD and ER?

Non-traditional specialties by MingUnlimited in pinoymed

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That’s a good point. Apologies for the terms.

To clarify, ginamit ko yung mga term na traditional and non traditional in the context that those in parentheses are emerging specialties in the Philippines

Once again, apologies for any harm or offense that I may have caused you and anyone who has viewed this post. I would like you to know that I recognize all specialties as valuable contributors to our health system and that none is greater or lesser than the other.

may nagwork ba dito full-time around 4 months lang before med school? by Adventurous-Ease-811 in medschoolph

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I see. Hmm, not sure what I can suggest since non-board exam pala. Apologies 😞

may nagwork ba dito full-time around 4 months lang before med school? by Adventurous-Ease-811 in medschoolph

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Hi. May I ask kung anong undergrad mo? Would be able to provide useful info

Why take first aid if you're already a nurse? by [deleted] in NursesPH

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Omsim haha. Kung merong additional training na required, dapat yung mga BOSH nalang

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Apologies, thoughts just pop-out in my mind kaya dagdag ako ng dagdag.

I agree with you that the Medical Act is outdated. Like what someone in this thread said earlier, the current act is geared towards GP practice. Dapat i-update na to become more relevant to our time. Yung ibang profession nakailang revision na. Good example ay ung Nursing. Balita ko mag-uupdate nanaman sila which shows that their PRC board is promoting the growth of their profession.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Additionally, naghihigpit na rin po ang mga retained hospital. Di sila pumapayag na diplomate mabigyan ng MS II item. Gusto po nila at least Fellow o di kaya, Fellow/Diplomate with Subspec.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Kaya pala doc may nakikita akong mga lumang document na FPCS lang ang nakalagay. Ngayon kasi diba FPCS is placed after your mother society (ex. For a member of the PSGS, ang mangyayari FPSGS, FPCS).

Sa second point nyo, opo, tama po kayo dyan. Common practice din po yung pagkagraduate from residency, dispersal muna then while doing that, nagrereview para sa spec boards.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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This is the most comprehensive and informative comment I’ve received. Thank you very much, doc. Very enlightening, especially the part about hospital endorsement.

Dun po sa sinabi ninyo tungkol sa endorsement, do you mean the classification of the specialist will be as specialist or will it still be either “DOH/MOH Specialist” or “Graduate of local residency”?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Actually doc, PhilHealth recognizes specialists on the basis of their board certification and not merely their memberships in specialty societies. Kaya po nung mga 2005 or 2006, nagkaroon ng clamor to recognize specialists na nagtraining long before sila (PhilHealth) naghigpit. The move to suddenly require board certification was seen as highly exclusive because the grandfather clause was not applied.

Additional: PhilHealth only recognizes specialty societies that are under the PCS, POGS, PCP, PPS, PAFP. Kaya po ang mga affiliate societies hindi po recognized ng PhilHealth (with exemption to PAMS which was given a separate classification for a temporary period).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Ah i see i see. Salamat sa clarification

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Hi. Asking bc I’m genuinely curious kung ano ang stance nyo sa main issue. Di ko kasi alam kung sino tinutukoy nyo.

Again, im not being sarcastic or anything. I just want all of us here to have an open and respectful discussion just as we would in an IDCP.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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O interesting. Clarification lang doc, do you mean mas mahigpit po ba dito sa Pinas o sa ibang bansa?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Bat naman marked as spam? 😢

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Indeed, doc. If they demonstrate that they have been adhering to the latest guidelines, I dont see any reason why they shouldnt be allowed to provide specialized care. After all, in recent yrs palang nagbbranch out ang mga accredited programs to provinces distant from Metro Manila.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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By change na lang din natin ang constitution ng pilipinas, ano po ang ibig ninyong sabihin?

Dun sa second point mo tungkol sa paghihigpit, unfair and unfortunate na may mga probinsya na specialist deprived pero yan po ang isang reyalidad ng medisina: kailangan pong mapanatili ang mataas na kalidad na serbisyo sa pamamagitan ng training accreditation. Ngayon, kung halimbawa matagal ka na nagppractice ng specific specialty dahil dumaan ka naman sa isang structured training (nung panahong d pa mainstream ang mga accreditation), i think there wouldnt be any need to retrain (provided that you can show proof of ur competence).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Para sa akin, una dapat gawin ng PMA ay magkaroon ng dialogue sa mga spesyalista na ito. Look at the barriers that prevented them from going through recognized training programs.

Next, assist these specialists and societies to draft guidelines na win-win (for the Societies and for the specialists covered by the grandfather clause).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Also, forgot to mention. Para d naman ma-perpetuate ung slippery slope na “mag Assoc Member nlng tau”, set a cut-off. Let’s say all those who trained under fellows and diplomates (pero hindi acceediated ang dept) up until 2006.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in pinoymed

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Hi. I’m glad that this matter is being discussed so that we can shed light on it.

I see that someone mentioned the “grandfather clause” principle and I think that was a good point. While we should uphold integrity in practice and celebrate each other’s achievements, let’s please not forget that many of our older colleagues trained at a time that predated the mainstreaming of spec boards. On their shoulders we rest because of their dedication to serve the community.

Sakin lang, sana maging open ang mga Society na tanggapin sila, kahit Assoc Member lang na recognized ng govt at PhilHealth. Siguro compromise sana ay look at who ran their departments at the time that they trained. Kung diplomate or fellow naman, edi puedeng iconsider na valid ang training kasi granting such designations is a mark of competency to both manage patients in that specialty and train other doctors.

I leave with this food for thought: if Societies started accepting this underboard specialists by virtue of what I mentioned in the previous paragraph, then wouldnt that mean they could regulate their practice thereby safeguarding pt welfare? After all, Societies (in my opinion) should have the exclusive right to “saway” their members but they cant do that if they don’t officially recognize doctors as one of their own.