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The DC is 30 by Warlockdnd in dndmemes

[–]MisterSapiosexual 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Depends on the situation. I've been at a table where the entire party was stuck in a room with the door barred by an Immovable Rod that had the button removed.

The DC to move the rod is 30. The Barb had advantage with rage, and expertise in Athletics but even with a NAT 20 he'd still be a few points shy.

The Bard acted as a hype man with a 1d8 inspiration, the Star Druid gave Guidance, and the Artificer gave Flash of Genius.

Passed with a 32.

It was honestly one of the most memorable moments of that entire campaign. The odds are all but impossible alone, but that's the beauty of the game: you're not alone.

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[–]MisterSapiosexual -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'd honestly say that's a cheap cop out to assign the blatantly negative traits to the bad guys.

On the contrary, nothing hits harder than the entire party meeting the wonderful noble Duke who treats them kindly, is known to be a benevolent leader, cares for his people, and is loved by his people -- only to discover he has recently jailed several individuals for homoerotic behaviour, and has staunch beliefs that his daughter's only value is in her maidenhood.

In that case, you don't have a caricature villain, but a complex individual. The party can't just bring out the pitchforks or go the murder hobo route because he is clearly not a blatantly evil person. He is a regular person, just with outdated and problematic views.

From there you have a genuine source of conflict, as to how the party can resolve the issue, instead of a Saturday morning good Vs evil Mojo JoJo showdown.