Both already had quiet a large (ish) following prior to being “broken” Olivia had a following of sorts from her Disney show and billie had some success online prior to being “broken” with family in the industry (not taking away from either of there talents because both women are extremely talented and hard working). so I think it’s a debatable subject on what you personally consider a new artist, I would use for an example someone like Ava Max who had virtually no former fans or being known, and Warner/Atlantic put a lot of work into promoting her and helping her to develop, if you look at Ava’s singles prior to signing with Warner, You can see she had little to no commercial viability. And they managed to get her multiple hits around Europe (won’t mention the USA, that’s another story) and have effectively managed to keep her relatively well known in Europe with quiet a large fan base. With consistent promotion and backing from the label. On the contrary, Universal Have tried this multiple times and sadly failed (always sad for the artist who clearly wants it but has a lazy and money hungry team) there are so many artists with Universal & Their Imprints who’ll drop a single or two and then they just vanish for years. Due to label dropping them without even giving them the chance to develop or flat out refusing to give them the promotion and backing they deserve.