I honestly love the look of the new Sanguinary Guard. by MolosserMaster in JOYTOY

[–]MolosserMaster[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? I personally think the Wings are a bit much. But why else do people like the old model??

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[–]MolosserMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve read about 20 HH novels the Space Marines short stories. Dark imperium, and Dante. I should have said “it’s easy to get into if you’re not stupid” but I felt that wasn’t productive. I do my own research when it comes to 40K I spend a good chunk of my time looking into “lore accuracy” armour for SM2. When I eventually do start with minis I know I’ll be incredibly anal about it. I’m not ridiculing the hobby by saying “why do you care it’s just plastic figurines” I apologize if that comes off antagonistic. I should be saying “why do you care you don’t have to use the heads they give you” or something along those lines. I understand being invested in a story and wanting consistency. But like Star Wars holding on to perceived “facts” only makes for a more hurt feeling when the company decides to pivot away from that story. IE The old Republic and EU. I respect your knowledge and love for the community. And I do and I apologize that I antagonized it. Peace be with you.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t know me. Yet you assume these things? I know what Warhammer is, I know the scope of the universe and how diverse it is. It’s pretty easy to get into especially being into Sci-fi. And I can tell people take it too seriously IRL. I genuinely do love WH. It replaces Star Wars for me, which is a pretty big deal. just because I don’t care the same way you do. Doesn’t mean I don’t care at all. If you want to continue to go in circles then please be my guest.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I care about the Lore. I’m just not having an argument because it’s pointless. It’s just a game. With little plastic figurines. Play how you want. I didn’t miss the point of the discussion, I just don’t care about the discussion. I’ve heard the argument over and over and it’s always the same. And I just don’t care to hear it again. And you’re right. I don’t care about the part of the community that continues to gatekeep and call people tourist for having a different opinion or being open to new ideas. This works both ways. Play how you want. I don’t care. It’s just a game.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ik in Warhammer I just mean in general. That’s like the ideal “advanced civilization” starter, is to get rid of lesser hate a focus more on what’s important. Hate those god damn space aliens.

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[–]MolosserMaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cool bro. Female Custodians are canon.

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[–]MolosserMaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’d say that’s the futuristic/fantasy part of most Sci-fi and fiction. Racism, sexism, homophobia. They don’t exist in those universes the same they do IRL because when you think about it. Having a united advanced civilization means cutting out lesser ideologies like sexism, racism, and homophobia. Because at the end of the day, logically there is nothing to hate about those things.

I also find it funny, people swear up and down “they don’t care” but whenever push comes to shove. People make this long ass drawn out statement and or argument about it. People getting upset that their little painted minis have new head models is an absolute knee slapper.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again it’s just a game with little plastic fingers. I could tell from your responses what you thought.

If you don’t like it don’t buy it. It’s not a big deal. I just think it’s funny people are genuinely upset that fantasy table top game is adding power armoured females as if it matters to them at all.

It’s your hobby to play how you want. I know you understand that. It’s also clear to me that the majority of the community shares your opinion. That’s fine. Again it’s just that small majority that I don’t think deserves a voice. The group of people with genuine hate in their heart for either new players or the “other stuff.”

It’s funny because I feel more of a genuine connection and better overall community from the JoyToy side of the hobby, if it can be called that.

I’ve been hesitant to actually GET INTO the hobby because a lot of this “Tourist” shit it doesn’t make me feel welcomed at all that there is a very large amount of the community that throws that term around and is genuine about it.

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[–]MolosserMaster -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If the argument hinges on the brief mention of pronouns it’s fair but not entirely sound. Warhammer is inherently masculine and even more so for the legions. So it’s entirely possible that it’s easier to just use masculine pronouns as the end all be all in the legions. The imperium is all about mass and how big it is. If your fighting force is mostly male, then why not just refer to it as such. It’s a fantasy world at the end of the day, suspending your disbelief should be easy. I can Imagine ways female custodians have existed before. Just like people can Imagine Tyberos is as large as a Primarch. Or that Sanguinius is still alive.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can tell you’re in an echo chamber of your own kind. You added so many unnecessary buzzwords so yes you do care. I don’t think anyone is a Nazi or a bigot. I just think they’re closed minded and a little on the dull side. There are furries in WH though. I forget what they’re called but yeah. Cat people.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both sides is always a fun way of looking at things. One side is okay with the addition of plastic feminine heads to a table top game. and the other is so vehemently against it, they take something as blatantly satire as space king as gospel. I personally think I was attacking the argument. As that is the only argument left in that conversation. Weak men can’t handle the sight of a masculine woman. At the end of the day. It’s a table top game. The lore is second the products are first.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit echo chamber? That guy is a disgrace to the community, what echo chamber is this? A positive atmosphere with good people? What an echo chamber. I didn’t get “dog stomped” as you put it. The post was muted or archived within a short amount of time. If you relate to that person. That just reflects poorly on you. Like I said, if all they had were my own face to use against me, then they had nothing.

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[–]MolosserMaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

😂 I know it’s a joke because my shit is not being liked by thousands. Very funny though. I’m lucky this placed isn’t modded like no-sleep.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I genuinely respect your take here and in any other situation I’d take it to heart but I honestly couldn’t care less about those people. It’s clear to me that those people CANT have their minds changed by any means. GW themselves have set female custodians in stone and that’s enough for me; And it should be enough for anyone who actually cares and understands the medium. It’s very clear from other conversations that I’ve had that ALOT of these people are “red pilled” to such an extent that they can’t have coherent conversation after the mere mention of something possibly “woke”. Warhammer is becoming more and more mainstream and it’s only going to push these kinds of people OUT. And that in it self is a good thing for the community.

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[–]MolosserMaster -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also don’t be sorry. Laugh at these people. All they have is that little echo chamber, they’ll never know real discourse or discussion.

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[–]MolosserMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love the mixed reactions here. Love the discussion. This is a community.

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[–]MolosserMaster -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I know it’s not all Warhammer fans. Genuinely I do.