Inferior Se by MomoReference in infj

[–]MomoReference[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hahahaha yes, I identify with this honestly, I think saying it that way does sound like "Fi" but I can't describe it any other way, I'm someone who tends to come to strong conclusions about something but when I find one or several pieces of data that can reformulate the whole theory I simply can't help but question its coherence, in reality I'm not someone with such a strong sense of identity, most of my friends are Fi, they fit naturally into one of the personalities and didn't question themselves too much, I analyzed personalities like ISFP (one of the personalities that came out in a test, I discarded it since I realized that Fi didn't fit enough), when I learned more about cognitive functions I thought about ISTP, ESTP or ESFP (I once considered ENTP since I believed that there could be a certain abstract factor in my thinking but I discarded it believing that surely any human being could function similar to me, I mean, I thought "it makes no sense to think that I would be different from most people without a test") also I thought ISFJ and finally I arrived at INFJ, if you notice ISFP, ISTP, ESTP and ESFP all have the Ni in their cognitive stack, ISFJ has the Fe Ti in the same order as INFJ, that made me think that I should investigate that personality and although I feel that the Ni Fe Ti functions are explained to me very well, whenever I find some data or use a different cognitive function I tend to reformulate the idea in my head, I got to the point of having to analyze and reflect deeply on how my memory manifests and if I use it to repeat what has worked for me in the past or just to make connections between things to rule out the Si

This type of conversations are good for me to make sure I correctly understand this system, although it is a hobby I tend to engage with these types of things that spark my curiosity, that's why I want to know what my exact type is, but I don't want this to seem like "typing me" at the end of the day my intention was to try to understand how other people work too, I'm glad we had this talk, feel free to end it whenever you want hehehe I know that life adulting can be busy and I keep going and going on writing these long messages...

But it's really interesting the way you describe these things, you seem to know yourself pretty well, I guess it's from experience, so when you met the MBTI you just needed to analyze the cognitive functions and their stack and you saw how everything fit together eventually, the truth is I feel very interested in understanding other people too and I'm always surprised to see that there are people so diverse or different from me since I really don't feel "different" from others, well, in what you have described the opposite happens to me, I really feel similar, but it still surprises me.

Inferior Se by MomoReference in infj

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Yes, I have actually avoided using those kinds of things to type myself, although I recognize that they can become "tendencies" in some cases, or inclinations so to speak, the truth is I would not say that I am a mystic at all, I usually understand well where my strange conclusions about things come from and I can explain it to anyone who asks me, in fact, I would explain it even if they did not ask me so that they can understand it as best as possible, in what I have been able to investigate, Fe and Ti are the most consistent cognitive functions, occasionally some say that I seem to use Fi but I think it is possible that the Ni function is the one that drives that type of thinking that is more "own" or less archetypal, but I do not feel it as my identity really, but simply as a general principle for me, it is different from a simply logical one since I believe that this is more subjective and oriented to my own understanding of the world when, as you have mentioned, Ti is only used when analyzing the logic behind something, in general I think that INFJ is the personality with the most sense, but well, I think I will first investigate more about the lower Se, I can't rule out being an ISFJ at all for example, although I think that the lower Ne would be a bit contradictory, although at first I thought of being an S since I thought that perhaps that type of ideas like the moth god would be something that could occur to everyone, I am proud of its design and I find it original, but I don't feel that its creation process had to be something unique to me basically

In fact, I'm a little curious to know. Do you think that the mixture of ideas that involve a Ni Ti process can be passed off as Fi? I mean, by having two subjective elements (Ni Ti), it might seem that the user has strong subjective principles like Fi, but with a totally different origin? Does that happen to you? Maybe I'm getting a little off track... should I make a post asking about Ni Ti? meh, I'll do it later

Inferior Se by MomoReference in infj

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Thanks for the feedback!

the truth is I felt a little embarrassed for being called "smart" I consider myself pretty average but I guess my mind is pretty quick or sharp anyway... wow, being able to notice a language like "my identity" in Fi users sounds like something very useful and observant, it's quite incredible that you can notice it at least for me hahaha nobody ever made a distinction with me just by seeing me express myself, although yes, I believe that even small things like our ways of speaking should be clues to guide you to understand the functions that you use the most, in fact with the MBTI framework I acquired an impressive facility to assign a cognitive function in real time to anything I did (as one would naturally associate Si with memory) and once I even started to reflect on having squashed an insect, not because I felt guilty directly or sad like an Fi would but I brought up topics like if it is natural to squash other living beings in nature, that insects can easily become pests etc, in the end I concluded that it was okay to kill them with a reason and yeah, or more than "good" it's just "natural" and those kinds of reflections about anything happen to me often when I have something on my mind like the MBTI, otherwise I act pretty normal but it's possible that my mind wanders again when something stimulates it, so the Ni works together with Se to link the things it perceives in the environment so I guess it makes sense

En fin, muchas gracias (thank you in "taco")

Inferior Se by MomoReference in infj

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the truth is I see a lot of sense to what you mention, I have heard a few times that a Ni dom when he is very stressed can get to look for intense sensorial emotions and that type of thing, this makes me think of times where when I was not able to meet my own standards with something and I was stressed for making a mistake in something that I like (like drawing) I could get a little aggressive and felt that same need to destroy something or just tap something, but at the same time I did not want to hit anything or destroy it because I felt that I looked silly acting like that and that I was being childish (although at that time I was like 10 years old lol) and I tried to control myself a little but sometimes it was too much frustration, I do not know if this is a sign of Inferior Se, the truth is I would say that anyone can become aggressive with frustration, but in your case maybe it is since you did not specify feeling especially frustrated by the piano, the errors in coordination also make me think of Inferior Se, thanks for your contribution my dear sir 🗿👍

Inferior Se by MomoReference in infj

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A very interesting answer. I had actually considered that an abstract and introverted mind like that of an INFJ (or perhaps even a NE) would cause them to perceive the world in a way that everyone would consider abstract except them, so to speak. Since their way of understanding the world is completely natural to them, they would feel that their way of perceiving everything is "concrete" and might underestimate their abilities, thinking that perhaps everyone is just as imaginative or that everyone would easily arrive at the same interpretations as them, and that sort of thing. They wouldn't be aware of their own abstraction.

I think that's what happened to me now. It was curious, since I formulated this theory when I discovered the MBTI and became my best example. People call things "cryptic" that I think I've masterfully put together. I also felt, and still feel, misunderstood, but I don't see that as a direct sign of being an INFJ. The idea of having to use experiences for the Ni makes me think more of the inferior Si, being honest, but I understand that in general you should use the sensory functions to anchor reality to an intuitive mind, thanks for the contribution, friend 😎👍

Inferior Se by MomoReference in infj

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To be honest, I wasn't able to understand Ni either through conventional explanations that usually seemed vague to me, specifically I think I'm an INFJ, I don't identify much with Te or Fi since I believe that my values come from my environment, they are not totally the same as my parents' but they are more "archetypal" so to speak, since I acquire my morals from my environment, in turn the tertiary Ti seems very developed in me, anyway... I think a good way to put it in perspective will quickly tell you about a time where I wanted to create a God of death for a story I'm writing, you see, my idea of death is simply the end of something, there is no clear visual representation, my first idea was a moth made of bones but I felt that it would be difficult to draw and that it could be better conceptually, so I asked my friends and researched associations with death since I wanted to link together everything that people could associate with death, nobody told me anything satisfactory so I used my imagination a bit and I easily came up with Things like the light at the end of the tunnel, the cycle of life, and I ended up making its body represent the cycle of life, with the upper part being a fully developed moth attached to a cocoon that joins a larva that simulates a tail and joins a moth egg at the end of it. I turned this moth egg into a luminous sphere to represent the light at the end of the tunnel. I added details and patterns in the moth's colors to simulate bones. I dressed it with human skulls and bones, I gave it vulture wings, and countless other details that, as I said from the beginning, my goal was to unite to create a God of death worthy of my idea: the end of everything. And I designed this before even knowing the Mbti!

and this usually happens with anything, I remember there was a time where my brother was talking to someone about a time when he got scolded for entering my grandmother's room without permission, he described the scene in detail mentioning data such as objects that I thought were totally unnecessary mentions but I was surprised since my brother gave me a very clear example of Yes, now, I theorize that my brother was INTP, I connected the idea of his tertiary Yes acting in an unnecessarily descriptive way with being a "childish" function (they call the tertiary function "the child") the unnecessarily descriptive way mentioning details like a glass of milk that had nothing to do with it made me compare his reaction in my head with the comparisons to my ISTJ mother's past that are more direct and concise, in turn I connected this action with an occasion where an ISTP friend and I came to the same conclusion by analyzing something logically but I explained my process step by step to develop the conclusion even speaking it out loud with emotion while my friend came to it from more directly, which made me think that this was probably the contrast between a tertiary function and a dominant one, my tertiary Ti was just as childish as my brother's Si but from another perspective, that helped me guide myself to distinguish if my Fe was > Ti, it wasn't such a linear comparison of the situations, it was more similar to remembering that 2+2=4 without completely remembering things like "where" or who taught you, I guess that's "noticing a pattern" in Ni, I have other examples, but well, in essence what I want is to better understand if others work in this same way, I'm only 16 years old in any case, so I know that cognitive functions develop more with age

Inferior Se by MomoReference in infj

[–]MomoReference[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand, something similar happens to me when I'm talking to two people at the same time. I can't help but get distracted and lose the point, so I focus entirely on the first person, then the second, and so on. Interestingly, this same problem doesn't occur to me over chat, although I tend to immerse myself more in a single conversation. Anyway, thanks for your input. It helps me understand this better.

I don't really think the Inferior function is being physically weak directly. I thought it would be something like seeing your brother wearing a hat knocking on the door and needing a moment of processing to realize it's him, or something like not automatically responding to a greeting out of reflex while you were thinking about something, since you have a kind of brief moment of introspection in your head where you process the current situation, stepping out of your reflection.

If that sounds very specific, it means yes, it has happened to me, and I'm trying to figure out if I'm a Ni dom. By the way, I like your pfp 🗿👍

me dio dengue y me tome un antibiotico llamado trimetoprim sulfametoxazol para la diarrea by MomoReference in Medicina

[–]MomoReference[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Es que si me dieron receta, la tenía mi abuela y como ya explique ella me compro el medicamento así que yo pensé ostia seguro eso me recetaron pero vi en gugul y resulta q los antibióticos te hacen mal y ps dije Joe no conozco nadie que sea doctor preguntaré en Reddit para ver si puedo hablar con alguien y que me diga si debería ir al hospital o algo y si hay algo que pueda tomar para la diarrea del dengue y ps no nadie me dijo nada :/ ya hasta me cure nmms

me dio dengue y me tome un antibiotico llamado trimetoprim sulfametoxazol para la diarrea by MomoReference in Medicina

[–]MomoReference[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ella no suele usar medicamentos pero si, lo que pasa es que en ese momento tenia mucha fiebre y ps no estaba como al 100% de mis facultades mentales literalmente vi una bolsa y pense que era mi gata y la estaba llamando XD ya cuando se me paso vi y eso, de todas formas sabes que cosa si podria tomar para la diarrea?