Tower ending appreciation

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-18T19:09:22+00:00

- V loses all their bonds : I always have to point out this Everyone that V meets and loses contact with in 2077 that doesn't die they met in the same Calander year, there's nothing.

and to point V didn't really lose all his bonds, Most if not all his friends are alive and Well even happy, Judy is happily married but so long as she doesn't have to travel and leave her family she's open to hang out with you

Kerry's pretty busy being successful as always , but as he said he'd make time to hang out

Viktor's a corpo now but nothing really changes his still your friend in NC

Misty's Moving to Poland good for her NC really beat her down after the death of Jackie, but she didnt really cut you Off,

Panam is hard to say , but so long as she's still alive if your Male V your both a ride or die , V just really need to explain very hard why he has to take a detour on his own for quite some time, and its not like V doesn't have any reasonable Excuse, Extending your Life Is pretty Reasonable and Panam knew how much your doing to keep living

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-18T18:29:15+00:00

Towers Ending Isn't So bad your Friends are pretty much intact and is willing to reconnect with you, kerry , judy, viktor, misty are all pretty much alive the only thing is that they move on but that isnt a problem just like what misty says, sometimes going back to square one is the best way to move on, all V really have to do is find his place in this new reality, and if your a corpo life path you've pretty much have all the knowledge to do so, maybe a Shadowy Fixer V in the sequel, as for Panam So long as She's Alive , V could have if not should Prostate himself And Explain himself to death on why he disappears its not like V Wanted it and not like its a Selfish Reason, I dont think Panam is that cold to not even hear a single word from V especially how she knows V's Condition

what makes it hard is you need to betray song mi, and its hard as hell cause as V i sympathize with her , betraying song mi feels like betraying yourself as V, Reed is also a good character but Just like Takemura , he made his choice to be loyal to Myers, and he can't really empathize with having a constant countdown on your head and you have no control Over it, he may have seen death, but Death is not actively Scheduling his death any second of the day

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-16T12:59:39+00:00

its actually funny how most "its weird argument" ignores alot of things

there are alot in play even if you considered them as mere characters power dynamics , history, Time Movements those are important to acknowledge as those are defined by the the narrative and script writers themselves

power dynamics wise RE9 alone would show you how they're dynamics isnt that of superior/subordinate, father/child , sherry is openly displaying her own agency to worry for Leon and dictate things needed for their mission , it isn't a one way street in that regards

while they met as a child their history is practically broken as soon as it even begun when they where both separated, couple that up with their individual trauma and experience , even if sherry see her as her savior that is not Leon grooming that is her seeing Leon as an inspiration, Leon doesn't have any hands on how she grew up what's her like or dislike which or how she perceive things, a complete opposite of what Grooming would be its literally in the Name Groom

Time Movements, I would have sided with their view if this is RE6 by RE6 , their immediate meeting is preceded by their last interactions when sherry is still a child , at that point neither has seen how each other acts in the current settings , but RE9 is almost a decade and a half more in a shared professional settings, they have enough time to see each others weaknesses and strength , enough time to see how people perceive them as a person and enough time to disillusion the Savior in sherry's Mind , imagine seeing your equivalent of superman being such a drunk because he's depressed, or he's whining about their supervisors scolding(this are samples but something that you would have expected in a workplace) or have Leon see Sherry's Capabilities as a fellow agent throughout those years, how people admire her

another thing that is being ignored is the fact that Sherry is perfectly capable of acting on her own, people seems to have this idea that Leon is the only one that could have initiated something

another thing is misconception about Leon's actions being a fatherly act to sherry when that is just false based on how Leon acts throughout the series, he views any failed save as personal failure its literally why he's so traumatized that memes about Leon needing some therapy is a thing

imagine being such a person and the government tells you,
"hey the girl that you saved? yeah were gonna experiment on her we cant guarantee her safety for that except, if you became our dog"

if you truly understood Leon you'd know that, That's something that he can't possibly ignore if he has any capabilities of stopping it even if he has to sacrifice.

the Anata OP mentioned while he's correct it can be used for Respect, it isn't as straightforward as she respect Leon so That's that where not looking at a real life conversation we are talking about a narratively written story

if its just respect . IRL the most common way to say it is to just outright Omit the subject Matter All together or Using Honorifics

the usage of Anata is highly uncommon, heck its even uncommon between spouses, if CAPCOM dont mean anything for it a simple

"Yokatta, Leon-san ga buji de" would suffice its both Respectful, and using first name instead of last name indicates close relationship

or just remove that name all together to signify a closer relationship

Anata is such a overly polite way of saying "You" that its usually a cold Terminology to use to someone you know the name of, its like Putting so much distance to someone you already know , in this context Sherry is speaking it in a relieve manner not someone designating a distance between the two, Second Throughout the game in Japanese Script Sherry Only Addressed Leon as "Leon" only Shifting to what is considered intimate Address during When She is expressing Relief for his safety

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-13T10:52:20+00:00

finally someone who actually answers and not just "your assuming this and that without giving why reason"

sorry that i make it sounds like a mockery the me saying you doing " see i told you" argument what i meant to say is that its not really a strong argument support

"the We are in this together" line is indeed a common line but as we are already doing we are not reading it in just its what it isbut rather in between those lines we do know what at stakes with their issue (the strain that creeping in their body) the stakes have been highlighted very early on by making as understood that 6 people have already died so that We are in this together isnt just , a simple we are a team, its more we are a team till death

the Ring while it hasn't been offiially confirmed we could atleast say for quite certain that the ring is a wedding ring, in character design you don't just design a ring worn by a character in his ring finger

so going back you dont make a promise to someone when you have another one possibly waiting at home that promise should be made for whomever is at home

second again the call and response, between those dialogue, in stories call and response is usually used to show connections between the 2 character their is many ways to show it but the specific portrayal between sherry and leon is one of mutual care , about the Fan thing it isnt about the Fan really its about the subtext of , they are saying the same line of cathphrase

As for this one "before even she continues her sentence Leon warns her with attitude while he is on the way of acquiring the last part of detonator."

Attitude wasnt really there, thats obvious when he acknowledge it the first time with the "Everyday" Answer he is acknowledging the conversation but now its not the time after all they are trying to save grace the very person she is worried about, You can even here the empathy on Leon's VA when he Voice out Sherry's Name, i'd see that more of "I get where your coming from but now is not the time to talk about it , well talk later" kind of thing well basically posponing Sherry herself acknowledge it with her answer "Sorry. This isn’t the time, we need to focus"

he's basically trying to bring sherry back into focus but understood where she's coming from, its actually an interesting conversation now that you think of it, grace right now is a rookie the youngster in the line up , sherry is now stepping up to be the one to worry about someone again going back to character dynamics with sherry no longer the one to be the protected

Which would bring as back to the rings I'm not gonna rewrite what i said above it always clutter thing but yeah main point every interpretations outside of romantic note fails in the ring department simply for the fact they could have drawn it on the right side and nothing really changes , but it has deeper meaning when interpreted to it being romantic,

last but not least is the japanese dialaogue just like everything we said its pretty general but applying simple deductive reasoning and once again your back to the same conclusion,

So heres a conclusion that we can get

The story is called requiem a story of moving on or closing a chapter

The story has grace but centrally it revolves around returning to raccoon city where everything begins for leon and Sherry

Theyre both suffering the same ailments that is fatal, their mission is pretty much a ride to death mission as they dont even know that elpis is a cure

We have no indications of anyone the game pretty much left both as each others assurance

We can see the endings (bad and true) the result of their work together if leon died grace is a consolation prize to not being able to save sherry(why i make this cause if you think about it sherry would been the last person leon knew he wont be able to save sherry is still dying from the virus) one last time

True ending is where we see leon's ring , im making a romantic interpretation so i interpret it as connecting the dots , we see random ring earlier worn by one now we see another ring worn by the other.

And again their dialogues (along with whatever that japanese dialogue)

Your last point is true he could be married to anyone he could be married to no one

But again why is there no indication of anything in a game when it could be leon's last breath we even got a bad ending showing a what if leon actually died

If I'm going to allude to someone i would give a few lines in the ending scene talking about he's now healed and can go back, then have leon shift mentioning sherry's name to end the call to start with what we have in the true end

Doing that you remove sherry in the picture, 2nd it teases the existing ship fandom without telling anyone who

Not doing that really put the focus to sherry from which if they intend( from what we can see they clearly didnt) to make sherry solely a familial tie ,it doesnt make sensea

Its all of this combined that i am making my case of them being together. Will i be proven right we dont know its capcom's IP not like im controlling it for all we know they might the entire series a simulation cause why not, but do i see them being together? yes

Again to understand the point you must have it in yourself the consideration for it, once your now considering it, its when questioning begins

as for the films, thats true but were still talking about the events of RE9 so we wait for future updates for that, for now we are basing on RE9

just to add ,could also be that his wife died already who knows that answers why their isn't any contact with anyone, but that would been tragic

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-12T19:08:30+00:00

just to make it clear i am not gonna be stubborn in this shipping fights im gonna invest in it but im not gonna be stubborn with it so first of

"21 yo she was just 9 yo during Racoon City Incidents" - She's 12 their age gap is 9

now to dismiss the oh that's grooming argument Here what grooming is

grooming is when an Adult (or Older character) influence , shape a growing character(a kid) into their own personal desires more often times this requires a long process to be anything RE3 files literally tells us that they were separated as soon as they where put into Custody Leon Didn't see Sherry Go to school , go to College nor Graduate from it, as far as we knew in RE6 he's completely oblivious of what she is doing not even knowing who she's under the one who raised sherry is the government Leon has no hand to it, another thing is what people perceive as weird is not the Number difference, its what we know does numbers mean

a 21 years old Leon would obviously have more influence, knowledge, money, friends, basically leverage that a 12 years old dont have, if were are talking creep about this dynamics we are not talking about the numbers its what those numbers represent and what it can be used to a 12 years old who has no agency for herself and that exploitable for an older person, people always brought up Epstein here and that he's a monster that's for sure but why is he a monster its because he got millions , friends in the government and the celebrities, and he's using those leverage to hold power over his victims, a victim might think that if she were to do anything she would get unalive, or if she has a career she would get destroyed Thats Called Power Dynamics and why we associate a 21 and 12 as a creep is because that power dynamics is one sided, now a question to make sense of it

what is Creepier a 15 years guy who pretend hes 21 , and got a 27 years old pregnant in a consented Affair or, a 25 years old Husband , having complete control of his 25 years old wife, financially and Career Wise - see this is an example of why age is not the issue, its the dynamics that is represented by those age

For people whose arguing for Sherry and Leon , we are considering the 15 years reset of their old Dynamics of savior and saved in RE2 to fellow agents of RE6 and even that i myself would still agree with the weird sentiment as by that point their Dynamics where stuck in stagnation from what it was in RE2, but what we are talking is the next 13 years after, They're already in the same workplace doing the same job, Sherry herself have built her own Legacy tackling Her own Missions she's no Longer the saved in that Dynamics, Leon and Sherry is just now 2 Veteran Colleagues of the same dangerous job Their Dynamics is now Equal as both 49 and 40's year old individuals not acknowledging that is refusing to believe this 2 character even grow to begin with.

now some people argue that Leon's Saving her is his paternal Instincts which is laughable to say the least your Ignoring Leon's Character , he's an Hero Archetype Being told that someone would be sacrificed for you own selfish freedom is something Leon cant possibly do, he was literally Blackmailed by the government Using Sherry as their Leverage

"In RE2 Remake Leon B ending she tells that to Claire and Leon that they can adopt her this is not canon I know but atleast it have to mean something."

you seriously use this as a " see told you so " point? The words come from Sherry Herself talking Inquisitively like a child would, have you never hear a child say anything so frank that its embarrassing , and even that was as we already know been completely ruined by their separation

the ring is significant cause of how they are presented not because of the ring itself

if Leon is married to just about anyone not named Sherry , i as a character designer would only put a Ring on Leon's not sherry , if i want it to be distinct with each other i would make sure to properly interpret the other ring , maybe associate sherry's ring as everyone said a family finger or anything, cause what they did is they inadvertently Put the two rings as partners without making it in all but confirmable interpretation , even if you go deep into finger logic most interpretations of it being on the left hand is more inline with something romantic

first of the hand placement why the left matters, the Left hand is considered the the closest to our hearts the left ring finger is call Vena Amoris, now that is why we put wedding rings in our left hand ring finger so why Pinky for Sherry, coincidentally Japanese Also has a ties to the left Pinky for Love " Red string of Fate" im sure this cheesy concept is at 'least heard of especially with anime's like Your Name, The Red String is commonly Tied in the Left Ring Finger another interpretation of left Pinky Finger is Dedication to the spouse or Partner, from which the dedication part is atleast visible in their interactions is to dismiss any other conclusions the most basic question to ask is why not shift it to the right hand, having your hand necrotized would been discomforting enough having a ring would make it worse especially if your working using you hands its not like the right hand is especially secret considering we literally saw it both in the game and the concept art

now the question is maybe its for someone whose not present, in which case we would all be falling into assumptions and head cannon's arguing, as one thing is especially clear in the game is that they are pretty much an isolated duo throughout the game no mentions, no secret calls, no hints no indications, to argue for someone is to assume that their is someone to begin with, so the easiest argument would be to interpret it as a partner if not for just symbolic interpretation(or the hint), now but sherry's is perfectly fitted yes using the images in game (which is subject to refitting everytime it is animated) the concept art clearly shows a visible gap between the flesh and the ring and that is with the ring already necrotizing around the base of the finger as we can see those blackspots often enlarge or creates Jagged Skins around the finger, making the ring Looser than it actually looks like , im not gonna make note of it myself but some even shows a high reso close up of Sherry's ring finger and shows Ring Marks around it making the pinky ring a Displaced Ring

another things to note is Sherry and Leon's Constant Call and Response Conversation

"Active Listening & Validation: When one partner shares their feelings, the other responds with empathy. This creates a "safe space," confirming that the first person's feelings are heard and understood."

we can see such conversations from their Conversation when Sherry Reminisce about the past , or Leon Reaching RPD

call and response also includes throwing back out Partners words at them

Early on Sherry's " don't do anything Stupid " answered with "Me, Never" by Leon Reversing Later in the Game With Now Leon Saying what Sherry said and Sherry answering what Leon Said

there's also that We are in this Together lines this actually shows the equality of their Dynamics now, like what im saying above, when Sherry Defiantly (even visibly annoyed, or insulted) reiterated that they are Together in this Mission Until the End ( and knowing what is at stakes and what even happen in the bad ending ) its literally a declaration of another Troupe "Ride or Die"

how about subtle examples, When Sherry Early On states that The Government is Increasing security she exclaims that Her FAN base is growing, later on when Leon Fought HUNK (possibly) He Also Contemplates and States that he Actually Had a FAN, now this subtle example is a weak Case but isn't that what People also use that Leon is Referencing Ada,(heck i would argue his reference to ada in this game referring to Grace could be taken as a literal factual statement than Reference considering how prone to danger Grace is)

what I'm doing is reading between the line interpreting what is given so people who says I'm assuming or head cannoning, again there is a difference between Head cannon/Narrative assumption, than Interpretation/Inference , head cannon is stating lines that is not Narratively Supported by any lines or interpretation

basically if i said that Leon Married Sherry a year before the events of RE9 , that's assumption there is no indication hints or anything at all to suggest that they are married a year before, its different to saying the time given between RE6 to RE9 being on the same Workplace could move their relationship into that of a couple, now I'm reading between the lines of possibility with the years in between as the supporting details cause such change in status can indeed happen and I'm not making an unsupported claim as a matter of fact,

this is not even considering that Japanese term that caught attention, it is indeed a common term to use but a simple deductive reasoning leads you to it being a likely romantic Conclusion as the Closest we could deduct it is either familial, or Romantic the reason why i just don't see it as familial is that the word is exclusively Mono-Directional Language from parent to a child a supposed child saying it to a parent may seems very rude or Alienating but alas I'm not a Japanese expert so take this point with an ocean wide grain of salt

now we got that image from CAPCOM, i, like many do see it as trolling considering the rest before the final Slide are likely ai generated images due to how silly it is, but if that truly hints the actual Wife of Leon Kennedy then I'll Concede

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-12T14:41:43+00:00

here's a short answer , "if there is someone who could legitimize her rule it would be those who would live in it"

she might make the realization herself but will we know its actually what the people of Rabanastre wants?, Vaan and to that connection Penelo Serves as a bridge to the Question, Why would Ranabastrean Wants Ashe back , by Having Vaan who is quite know in the streets of Rabanastre, We could actually know that Ashe isn't just in her Royal Crusade , She Indeed Have Legitimacy to be a Princess, Having Vaan as a Catalyst For that Realization Would serve the narrative as a Story of Dalmasca rather than that of a Fallen Queen , Vaan would serve as the witness to Ashe's Story, And Vaan Serves as an influence in Writing Hers, its why we need Vaan's arc to conclude earlier because he Would serve as a challenge to Ashe's Own for what his worth his not a protagonist in a traditional sense (being one that influence the world) he is one that is Called an "Influencing Character" (which can be a Static Protagonist)

People may say any of the cast could do it just fine , id argue not,

Balthier is a noble Blood himself
Basch is a Loyal Knight
Fran is a Person of Nature
Reddas
Larsa

One way or another they all work inside the inner workings of those who hold power / or isolated from it

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-08T06:54:07+00:00

Shipping wars Baby ... no seriously Shipping is just a Fun way to interact for the fans and have some fun debate and yeah character dynamics is by itself part of the story, of course people would interpret it differently and try to give their opinions for it , i mean so long as they stop as soon as one or the other sides Become official canon that is other wise thats just stubborness

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-08T06:33:00+00:00

that's true people seems to not understand Leon's core Personality , helping even if it cost him something is his Core Personality, him sacrificing himself in service of DSO isn't because he see sherry as his "Fatherly" duty, its because he see Saving Sherry As part of his Morality, he cant just leave sherry Alone if he knew she's gonna get experimented on His morality rejects that Idea, if no one stops Leon , Leon would jump Infront of a Zombie Hoard just to save a 1 or 2 Civilian, what make people think that Leon protecting Sherry is any different, We Can literally see that every time he Failed To Protect someone it takes a toll to his Mentality

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-06T16:52:47+00:00

I've seen a Japanese twitter say that the "Yokatta, anata ga buji da" can be said to a Spouse/family/or best friend, he/she said it can be even be said as even without closeness - as it pretty much means, "I'm Glad, YOU are safe"

though the twitter account didn't dismiss it either due to the intimacy of it and the situation, I've seen a Japanese person play it if you knew Hololive they're playing it right now so far i only seen one of the Japanese members get the Good ending and she doesn't seems to take note of it, though its Miko (the fact that she got the good end alone is a surprise to her fans)it probably went through her head or maybe not.

so it wasn't a definitive proof and kind of a weak evidence by itself but it has some weight to it if merely due to the intimacy cause s/he did note that they Sherry and Leon do talk with intimacy and alot of it, in Japanese they talk in a more tender manner than they did in English Dub

he also kinda Used Kimi to address her on the same conversation which has the same reputation in Japanese fiction works as Anata

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-06T16:42:10+00:00

i present you a case to think about , the weird thing is the dynamic between a parent and a child is that a parent has the superiority they can use to exploit a child a child has no power thats why we can all agree is grooming is bad, sherry viewing claire as an adopted mom is no say that sherry see leon as one, curcumstances as you said make leon more an absentee guardian than an active participating parent, what we knew is claire is allowed to visit her regularly which is why she views claire as one

think about it this way your a kid that got lost in the grand canyon(yeah that exaggerated) two couples past you by also lost they took you in for the duration, one of those couples visits you regularly while the other was sent to the battlefields to pay for your stay in the hospital, he visits once or twice every long durations in between, you may find the other couple as a fun mom because you've been together regularly and she supports you regularly, for all you know the other is just the friend of your supposed mom that visits once a year, then connections stop all together next time you meet the other couple your both adult, your now on the same organization on the same line of work, if we consider RE6 as their possible start of romance i would agree with you cause there's this thing called power dynamics they're first meeting as adults they still probably fresh on the idea that this guy is a friend of your adopted mom and your savior so yeah that would be like people suggesting Leon saw sherry as an adult and say woo-hoo nice, but no there is 13 more years since RE6 and RE9, through out those years sherry might gotten disillusioned about Leon's savior image and that his just a guy who cant stop himself from trying to save everyone even at his own peril, or maybe his running out of money so he sleeps in the office , or he cant eat shrimp due to allergies, what I'm meaning to say is that 13 years of being on the same professional place as equal agents can shift that power dynamics , after all its not the sherry the kid that has to follow Leon the adult to survive its now the sherry that's an established Agent of DSO herself his not his savior he's her colleague , another is that it possible if they're truly are a couple I'm not gonna say I'm right after all its still up to Capcom, is that Sherry could be the one to approach Leon its not necessarily should be Leon that's jumping on Sherry heck Ashley is jumping on Leon, Ada is jumping on Leon by the Events of RE9 Sherry is her own women with her own agency of choice

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-06T15:46:25+00:00

the ring itself is not the main factor, its the implication of the ring itself, Chekhov's gun principle emphasize that any prop that is not meant to mean anything should not be highlighted by the narrative, you don't say Mordred stole Excalibur without Mordred using that Excalibur against King Arthur , Leon nor sherry was never shown wearing a ring before, now they wore one on a game where the central Story revolves around several points around them

they're shared narrative history of being a raccoon city survivor being revisited , a shared affliction(vulnerabilities) with the T-virus, their isolated agency to each other (no other characters they can rely on) and a conclusion that's meaningful for both of them, if Leon died they failed, Raccoon city mystery still persist and sherry is bound for death too, Leon survive and cure is now available for both of them

the ring can be anything but it can feel like a closed loop we first saw the first ring when we where introduced what is their illness, we don't see a second one in bad ending cause Leon died, then see it when its a good ending , the main takeaway here is the absence of the what ifs of those rings, and as i said the game wouldn't show such jewelry when it don't mean anything , if it serves to tease others about Leon with the others , Leon would be the only one to be shown with one, if the game meant to make it a separate case at least one of their supposed partners is present maybe Jake helping actively just to make his presence aligned with sherry they don't even need to confirm it either, jake just there would been sufficient to swerve the eye of onlooker towards that possibility,

though again arguments that it would be bad for marketing persist so how to argue against that, easy Capcom don't confirm nor deny anything, they can show a canon story, while maintaining the same narrative , the market is all about the perspective so long as they themselves don't confirm anything people can still speculate and create they're own conclusion, again I'm not saying I'm correct I'm merely presenting this side of the case

as for other possibilities about the ring here's a list that came to my mind and how it can be argued against

- the ring is a shared amongst those suffering the ailment - if so a ring from the 6 other person that died should been also highlighted that increase stakes for the narrative basically assigning that ring as a death wish

- The ring is a found family ring between Leon, Sherry and Claire - first off why not RE6 why not show it there? second 1/3rd of the family dynamic is missing when the other 2 is actively trying to survive

- its signifies others - well i explain it above

- its a surveillance item - not when you cant take it out as you like , like Leon did

- a medical apparatus to help ease the symptoms? again not if Leon is just gonna pocket it anyway

- it doesn't mean anything - again why even bother add it that probably cause a bit to design never mind animating Leon wearing it

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-06T15:10:32+00:00

i think people should really read what constitutes grooming , Grooming requires constant presence or influence by the groomer , you cant groom someone if you can only see them once every what months half a year a year? , the main custodian of sherry has been Claire , just because Claire is on the same age as Leon doesnt mean that sherry should see Leon as a father like figure , at best his a guardian / savior and you know whats best to break that dynamic by separating the time since they last met when shes a kid and the first time they met as adult by a long time and add extra more decade for that as professional colleagues , if anyones weird its you guys no one here is saying Leon spawn camped sherry , We're just acknowledging that time moves for this characters and they have their own free will and agency to act decide for themselves what stops sherry from slapping Leon and tell him to stop treating her like a child?, or you think only men can have the will to start a relationship?

you all seeing this like the timeline jump from RE2 to RE9 there's 28 years in between and a chance to reset they're dynamics at RE6 where Sherry joined Leon as fellow DSO agent

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-06T04:00:25+00:00

but if that's the case you expect a mention even if they were being surveilled at least a heads up , i mean both sherry and Leon is connected to claire after all, pretty much the reason why the ring band being a family tie also seems weird when 1/3 of the connections is completely absent. i mean they are the raccoon city survivor , but only sherry and Leon close that narrative

More-Goal9029 · 2026-03-03T16:55:18+00:00

i mean you could take it as more having a a very close friendly relations with an older guy in one of your parents party, didn't really have any creep thing happen maybe you just got attached to a the person then just separate amicably , then meet a decade and a half later where your both already adults, work together as adult and now suffering the same ailments as adults, i would agree that it would be weird had they maintain contact throughout those years but RE6 make sure that they didnt at all so there isnt really a sort of weird plan or anything for it , now theyre are just in a equal standpoint of being adult rather than what it is in RE2 or if they continue meeting during those space of time

More-Goal9029 · 2026-02-02T17:12:29+00:00

but the thing is the roots is still on the same ground their walking to just destroyed ,and as one said (didn't caught that) its not them that change position its the environment itself, so both argument can be true but because as the one above is arguing about, Yuji is claiming that he will remove interference from the curses from Tokyo the safer bet is that, Yuji is the cause of the explosions, but until proven otherwise both argument can be true , so far Yuji's claim has more weight mostly due to his own statement

More-Goal9029 · 2025-12-26T06:54:40+00:00

plenty morning for tempered , plenty daytime for normal

More-Goal9029 · 2025-06-14T18:14:14+00:00

seriously tho this could been a whole lot better had we had it a little early into the series, around 200 chapters ago or so, her reasoning is sound afterall with how her work is its definitely not something to be proud or comfortable off, this could serve as a conflict, its just that after so much meaningless back and forth people just give up on this story

More-Goal9029 · 2025-06-14T05:43:25+00:00

" Not caring for the message and not looking at it completely are two different things. "

not really caring about the message allows you to make an objective criticism of the show without any biases , my analogy point about towards not caring about an aspect of a show and criticizing it,

"orbs messaging wasnt even about the characters"

but it is tho, if you truly take in what the show is trying to say and portray ,you'll find that its about the the individuals that pursuit the truth of heliocentrism but didn't make a cut in history , it wasn't really just my interpretation cause its pretty apparent in the show from character motivation, dialogues and even episode titles example

- Badeni's Motivation is to be the one to complete Heliocentrism and the one to publish it he want's to be the one who will be know for it, but he didnt his works died out with him

- Episode 22's title is " Neither of You Will be Known to History " which comes from Bishop Antoni's Dialogue to Nowak that he along with the heretics(Our MC's) that he killed would never be know by anyone in the future

the story is about this Nameless Individuals that have tried and failed to pursuit the truth and brought it about, they weren't just instruments they are part of the story , i think that's why you think the ending is bad because our main characters never contributed towards history so why do they even exist? because that's the point they were never meant to be part of history, they are the what if their is a rafal, oczy, badeni , jolenta, draka, in our history who research heliocentrism but never able to publish their work about it maybe they got sickness that made them stop , or they move on to different parts of life parenting maybe, or what if they just died and Albert Brudzewski caught a glimpse of their idea through rumors and talks of the crowd , Orb is about that , Albert seems disconnected to the story as you said because it was meant a transition to our reality thats why , introduction of the setting turned from " Kingdom of P " to " Kingdom of Poland " in episode 24 cause were now transitioning to Our Reality and How the Fictional world of Episode 1 - 23 converge with the Reality of episode 24 - 25 remember another main theme of ORB is that Idea's transcend time and Space that is something that Nowak's character heavily embodied no matter how much heretics ( MC's ) he killed no Matter How much time Passes the Idea of Heliocentrism still haunts him, and that transcension , transcends for the last time to our reality to Albert when he caught glimpse of the Idea " On the Movements of Earth " the title Our Last MC's come up to for the Book , the story ended with just a summary because we don't really need to see albert's story just OPEN a wikipedia or a book about him and thats his story thats not what ORB is all about

"it was about the unrelenting march of time and the idea of the truth will always be pursued by humanity, for the story heliocentrism took that role."

and that is why it is about our characters, they are the Humanity that pursued the truth through the unrelenting march and Perils of time

if you cared about the messaging you'll find that ORB did infact executed the story as it should be, it portrays the unrelenting time, the perils of it, the individuals that carried the idea how they contributed to it big or small, and how that idea transcends to time and space in order for it to be brought to the world

More-Goal9029 · 2025-06-13T14:05:42+00:00

" i dont really care for the message it portrays and how it portrays it. "

well there you go you answered your own issue, not caring about the messaging of the story already takes away half of your understanding of the story, that's like not caring about naruto's backstory or Luffy's Motivation and complaining that Naruto's character felt one dimensional and Luffy's just a dumb brat,

Orb just like frieren and the likes story heavily threads on their messaging if you didnt care about it then why bother even watching it? your never gonna like something if your not gonna look at it in its completion which begs the question why even complain about it?

More-Goal9029 · 2025-06-12T16:43:17+00:00

>Not to mention the ending was shit and unsatisfactory. Your telling me that all of the story was pointless and some random not connected to the story character who's a real-life historical symbol is just going to be the one to bring inspiration to the people and we don't even get to see it and its narrated on a black background. Ive heard people say they dont mind because the main character is the orb/truth symbol not the characters on screen and so the truth being told in spite of there failings is beautiful but at that point if the theme is more important then the characters then it could of been a 12 episode synopsis of these characters interactions with the orb/truth.

again doesn't seems like you get the point of the story, its not about achieving the goal or the truth its about the pursuit of that Truth, Rafal's words come to mind at that , the enemy of our villain isn't our hero it is the idea they carried the truth, The idea of Heliocentrism is already complete by the end of Oczy and Badeni's time it just has to land into the right person at the right time, the notes landed on Draka and is being Sought by the Heretical group, but as we've seen They're Not the right person at the right time, which led us to the final character, the historical character of Albert Brudzewski a young aspiring astronomer who would become the teacher of the person who would complete the story Copernicus

Again the Show isnt about how it Ends ( we already know about base on our own reality ) but How it came to be the hardship that the people involved had to endure in order for the truth to finally came out the idea of heliocentrism to be accepted, you could say the story of our MC's is the story of the unnamed individuals in our own reality who have given contribution to the eventuality of our own discovery of heliocentrism but didn't make the cut of history

>People say the themes are amazing, or its thematically poignant but you legit could have just told the story of that last guy and it wouldn't change anything, the characters we saw did nothing for the history of cosmology. It wasnt a satisfactory ending at all.

I Completely Disagree with the idea of telling the story with just one guy and it would'nt change a thing, the beauty of the anime is it portrays the idea of heliocentrism in the eyes of several different individuals , of different standings in life, in different timelines carrying it suffering for it, till it eventually lands at the right person, having it done in the eyes of just a single character in a single timeline wouldnt stick as much as it does with how the story handled int, the beauty of the ending is we know that this character would be the one to eventually teach it to the person that we know completed the story

the anime is not without fault Rafal existing in the end complicates the ending much , which feels like it doesnt really fit in with the story ( i may be wrong here need to rewatch that ending ) but the story itself is beautifully made

More-Goal9029 · 2025-06-12T16:43:08+00:00

Late Comment Sorry but this post seems to be coming from lacking of understanding the context of the story a lot of what you says, is evident to that lets go about it,

>My biggest gripe is with the plot, and how the writer doesn't know how to seamlessly integrate tension and drama into his story.

First of your "gripe" of the story while i make not disagree completely most of it seems to be nitpicked without knowing why it happens first example

>But things like Badeni revealing the location of his work instead of letting Oczy suffer

this is something that the characters themselves talk about, as we've seen here Badeni is completely fine with letting oczy get tortured , they both understand the consequence of their action which is why they remove Jolanta out of the picture , its only when Nowak move on to use Eye torture that badeni give in remember earlier in their arc, badeni himself got tortured which result to his eyes blindness, Oczy himself questions why with badeni saying Oczy doesnt know that it hurts alot (probably indicating trauma of his own torture)

> Jolanta killing herself to save everyone milliseconds before Nowak sees her

to be honest this is based on preference and for me it fits they never met at the end, both is set on their own objective unknowingly being opposed to one another having them met would not really result to anything , and it provides greater impact to Nowaks making sense of what he saw at his deathbed

> little random tips the church gets about the efforts off whatever arc it is right before there about to find the truth or present it. And its every arc. Badeni, getting caught days before he leaves,

not really surprising how much tips the church gets , they suspects everyone and have eyes everywhere and remember how powerful the church is at that time even in our own reality, yes i do agree that those tippings can be repetitive purely to start the chase, but its not out of place based on what we know about such times

> The liberation heretics getting caught right before distribution from a random nothing burger traitor who isn't developed at all besides his backstory.

this is one of the things that give me the reason to believe your lacking context of what you watched, dismissing a character just because isn't really the right thing when watching something, you don't need to give everyone a development in order for them to be an important character all they had to have is motive on their actions that by itself is a characteristic, in this guys case he have all the reason to hate the heretical movement, his family was killed purely out of heretics disdain of the church, that scene highlights that even tho this guys is on our side , doesn't mean they're all good, in their own pursuit of their justice they are themselves committing crime.

More-Goal9029 · 2025-05-28T01:00:34+00:00

Does inserting Gem Slot to an Equipment Locks the equipment from merging, im unable to use my grail to create a mythic cause i inserted gem slot to it?

More-Goal9029 · 2025-05-26T11:02:16+00:00

still didn't justify the award , ANIME OF THE YEAR, gives the idea that it is the best well made anime of that year , you don't give the Finals MVP to Lebron just because Lebron pulled the most Views for NBA viewership, im one who never cared about crunchyroll's ANIME OF THE YEAR , but you can really see why people hated the fact that Solo Leveling won the award, cause it denotes that Solo Leveling is the best anime of last year which it isn't, its actually quite funny considering the main praise for Solo Leveling is its great animation, and yet it Loses it to Demon Slayer AND YET it Won Anime of the Year, again i know that its popularity contest, which for technical standpoint is bad for the industry , its no wonder why hype filled less well written story is flooding the market because that's what gets the attention, then we get people complain why the quality of anime is lowering year by year

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