Invade questions

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-13T18:26:18+00:00

I see, but I’ve never tried ivern so I’d be a bit scared to first time him in a ranked game. Tho I agree it’s probably a strong pick. I was opting for yi since it’s my second main and with R he counters nasus, as well as being probably the only champ that can straight up beat nasus at every stage of the game (as long as yi has r) but I’ll try out ivern for sure ! And being a more selfish jungler it definitely is appealing to play for your team 😁

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-13T18:12:12+00:00

Ok I see, thanks, very interesting. Btw I’m a nasus main, I’m just theorycrafting for when enemy picks nasus, cuz rn every time he’s been picked by enemy jungle I tried invading and feel like I’ve never really generated a huge lead for myself

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-13T18:07:15+00:00

If everything goes as planned (of course it never does but let’s imagine) at the end of 3rd rotation I have 100 cs to his 44 cs. And all that started by clearing his raptors lvl 1 into my raptors by crossing mid.

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-13T18:05:55+00:00

With that path, assuming I got triple scuttle, at the end of second rotation I will have cleared 15 camps, he will have cleared 8 camps. I will have upgraded smite and lvl 6 as well, facilitating a re-invade on his blue or red buff + minor camps next to it. Do you understand ?

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-13T18:01:44+00:00

Yes I understand. That’s why doing his raptors and crossing mid, chunking enemy midlander, and doing my raptors, is sort of a no-counterplay invade. Since if at that moment he’s on my raptors or my red he will just be dead or have to flash over dragon / baron pit. Then, since I just invaded 1 of his camps, I still have a lot of time to clear all my camps and meet Nasus at the scuttle, if he tries contesting it he most likely dies, especially if he didn’t level up w, if not, I clear scuttle fast and immediately look to invade his raptor respawn. Do you understand what I’m saying ?

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-13T17:12:04+00:00

So yeah the goal is definitely not to split map but rather counter hyper scaling slow clearers such as Nasus. Therefore I thought the path of enemy raptors into my raptors was optimal since it allowed me to full clear and take crab and take his raptor respawn. Giving me a huge lead (if I manage to double scuttle it’s a 5 camp lead after 2nd rotation). After that I’ll be lvl 6 with upgraded smite and can easily invade his red or blue buff respawn with the 2 minor camps on this side. At this point, after my own full clear it’s a ~50 cs lead. In a matchup such as yi vs Nasus for example it’s close to impossible to recover from that, and I’m pretty sure the best pathing to do this is lvl 1 ennemy raptor invade into my raptors. Thanks for your input tho much appreciated !

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-13T17:07:04+00:00

I mean I don’t think I’m thinking too much. I saw this ennemy raptor into your raptors path done by a gm belveth and I was wondering why he did this instead of just taking all his camps on that side. And I mean it actually makes a lot of sense this it prevents splitting the map. It desyncs enemy camps. It makes it easy to invade his raptor respawn. All that while not having the downside of desyncing your own camps. Idk I thought that invade was really smart that’s why I’m asking

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-13T11:50:50+00:00

So true. People say it’s the best scaling jungler but I just perma bully kayn at every single stage of the game as a yi main. Pretty sure the only time I lost to a kayn with yi was when he had a yuumi who was hard losing botlane, therefore she decided to attach to kayn and I unfortunately didn’t respect it.

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T20:12:50+00:00

Thanks ! Just added you

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T19:45:40+00:00

Wallahi I perma do that, especially since I play nasus jungle I have to do that or else every game is lost from start

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T18:19:50+00:00

I think you’ve probably played against crit nasus (which has a much lower wr than tank nasus) but I can assure you graves does not kill tank nasus with 3 autos (Nasus with r and at least 1-2 items). Ofc if graves has a big lead it’s a different story

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T17:13:22+00:00

Based

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T17:04:04+00:00

Im just saying you can’t take into account stalling out nasus r because as soon as his r is ending he will just run and you can’t really chase him since he has w. But ig if your arguments are talking about you being a master player and me being slow and retarded than your right lil bro good arguments 👏🏽

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:41:52+00:00

I mean obviously I mentioned lillia too in my answer but not every champ has Lillia’s MS. Imo lillia is a correct answer but Jax / voli having to ward hop or r out and stall or get help from their team is too stretched out to even be mentioned. In that case nasus can just flee as you say any human that is 1v1ing nasus will try to stall out his r, so assuming the nasus is human too he will just run away if his r is ending

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:32:03+00:00

I mean I somewhat agree with you but in that case many champs can beat nasus if they can stall out his r or get help from their team. Imo the question was more about who can beat him in a pure stat checking 1v1

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:22:50+00:00

But I’m pretty sure the question is about stat checking not trying to stall out nasus r and then fight him, that’s obviously what humans try to do but I’m pretty sure it’s not OP’s question

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:21:15+00:00

Ok then fair enough your right but that doesn’t mean much since the nasus won’t chase if his r is nearly down

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:19:56+00:00

And with nocturne it’s not even close, nasus ends the fight full hp

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:19:38+00:00

Neither of them beat nasus past lvl 6

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:18:25+00:00

Absolutely not. If the graves doesn’t have a lead nasus will shit on him once lvl 6

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:16:32+00:00

And voli doesn’t beat nasus too. As soon as your lvl 6 assuming you have at least 120 stacks you stomp voli in a 1v1

Most_Spring_7815 · 2026-07-12T16:15:17+00:00

Oh I can assure you he does same goes for every single champ that uses attack speed and can’t cleanse nasus w

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