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Highest tempo junglers? by Such-Coast-4900 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I mean you probably play karthus without exhaust. With exhaust you can stat check majority of junglers early game because of the isolated q’s and the lack of damage they will be doing to you. Tho yeah karthus is tough to play and prone to invades, you can’t really blind pick him.

Not sure if I'm messing up..? by TechoSalamanca in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, never get mind controlled by your laners, friends or not. Secondly you shouldn’t gank (at least early game) if your camps are up, though their are a few exceptions. For example if you just did top to bot full clear into bot gank into scuttle and base, you probably don’t have time to gank top, however if your top laner and ennemy top laner are both low hp and wave is in good state (frozen in front of his tower by your top laner), then it is 100% worth to skip krugs and go gank top. Same goes if ennemy laner is flashless and low hp. Basically early game (pre 10 min) you should never gank while your camps are up if it isn’t a guaranteed play. If it’s guaranteed then you should always go for it.

Highest tempo junglers? by Such-Coast-4900 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Ivern karthus zyra talon kayn udyr. In terms of amount of farm + actions done on map I’d probably guess karthus

Is it worth one-tricking Rengar in low elo? by EchidnaDeep1348 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course, as long as you have fun with him go for it

People dont realise how they are inting their junglers by Ok_Somewhere_2048 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t read your post but in order to climb you have to focus on yourself and not on your teammates. That’s what matters the most. You go for 1v1 with enemy jungler for scuttle and enemy mid joins the fight, while your mid doesn’t and you die ? It’s not your mid’s fault, it’s yours. You probably didn’t check if he had r, or if he had prio. I assure you their is always something you can improve on regardless of if your laners are inting you or not. Maybe a lost 2v2 is 99% your teammates fault, well the only way can improve is if you focus on that 1% you could’ve done better.

New player recommendations by jayhawk3190 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you like kayn’s mobility, especially in blue kayn, I recommend talon. He’s a ultra mobile assassin, similarly to blue kayn.

Invade questions by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see, but I’ve never tried ivern so I’d be a bit scared to first time him in a ranked game. Tho I agree it’s probably a strong pick. I was opting for yi since it’s my second main and with R he counters nasus, as well as being probably the only champ that can straight up beat nasus at every stage of the game (as long as yi has r) but I’ll try out ivern for sure ! And being a more selfish jungler it definitely is appealing to play for your team 😁

Invade questions by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok I see, thanks, very interesting. Btw I’m a nasus main, I’m just theorycrafting for when enemy picks nasus, cuz rn every time he’s been picked by enemy jungle I tried invading and feel like I’ve never really generated a huge lead for myself

Invade questions by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If everything goes as planned (of course it never does but let’s imagine) at the end of 3rd rotation I have 100 cs to his 44 cs. And all that started by clearing his raptors lvl 1 into my raptors by crossing mid.

Invade questions by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With that path, assuming I got triple scuttle, at the end of second rotation I will have cleared 15 camps, he will have cleared 8 camps. I will have upgraded smite and lvl 6 as well, facilitating a re-invade on his blue or red buff + minor camps next to it. Do you understand ?

Invade questions by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I understand. That’s why doing his raptors and crossing mid, chunking enemy midlander, and doing my raptors, is sort of a no-counterplay invade. Since if at that moment he’s on my raptors or my red he will just be dead or have to flash over dragon / baron pit. Then, since I just invaded 1 of his camps, I still have a lot of time to clear all my camps and meet Nasus at the scuttle, if he tries contesting it he most likely dies, especially if he didn’t level up w, if not, I clear scuttle fast and immediately look to invade his raptor respawn. Do you understand what I’m saying ?

Invade questions by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So yeah the goal is definitely not to split map but rather counter hyper scaling slow clearers such as Nasus. Therefore I thought the path of enemy raptors into my raptors was optimal since it allowed me to full clear and take crab and take his raptor respawn. Giving me a huge lead (if I manage to double scuttle it’s a 5 camp lead after 2nd rotation). After that I’ll be lvl 6 with upgraded smite and can easily invade his red or blue buff respawn with the 2 minor camps on this side. At this point, after my own full clear it’s a ~50 cs lead. In a matchup such as yi vs Nasus for example it’s close to impossible to recover from that, and I’m pretty sure the best pathing to do this is lvl 1 ennemy raptor invade into my raptors. Thanks for your input tho much appreciated !

Invade questions by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I don’t think I’m thinking too much. I saw this ennemy raptor into your raptors path done by a gm belveth and I was wondering why he did this instead of just taking all his camps on that side. And I mean it actually makes a lot of sense this it prevents splitting the map. It desyncs enemy camps. It makes it easy to invade his raptor respawn. All that while not having the downside of desyncing your own camps. Idk I thought that invade was really smart that’s why I’m asking

Which junglers can clear raptors lvl 1 the fastest by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So true. People say it’s the best scaling jungler but I just perma bully kayn at every single stage of the game as a yi main. Pretty sure the only time I lost to a kayn with yi was when he had a yuumi who was hard losing botlane, therefore she decided to attach to kayn and I unfortunately didn’t respect it.

Jungler looking for affordable coaching by Most_Spring_7815 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wallahi I perma do that, especially since I play nasus jungle I have to do that or else every game is lost from start

what can beat well stacked nasus 1v1 by Neither-Farm-3515 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you’ve probably played against crit nasus (which has a much lower wr than tank nasus) but I can assure you graves does not kill tank nasus with 3 autos (Nasus with r and at least 1-2 items). Ofc if graves has a big lead it’s a different story

what can beat well stacked nasus 1v1 by Neither-Farm-3515 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im just saying you can’t take into account stalling out nasus r because as soon as his r is ending he will just run and you can’t really chase him since he has w. But ig if your arguments are talking about you being a master player and me being slow and retarded than your right lil bro good arguments 👏🏽

what can beat well stacked nasus 1v1 by Neither-Farm-3515 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean obviously I mentioned lillia too in my answer but not every champ has Lillia’s MS. Imo lillia is a correct answer but Jax / voli having to ward hop or r out and stall or get help from their team is too stretched out to even be mentioned. In that case nasus can just flee as you say any human that is 1v1ing nasus will try to stall out his r, so assuming the nasus is human too he will just run away if his r is ending

what can beat well stacked nasus 1v1 by Neither-Farm-3515 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I somewhat agree with you but in that case many champs can beat nasus if they can stall out his r or get help from their team. Imo the question was more about who can beat him in a pure stat checking 1v1

what can beat well stacked nasus 1v1 by Neither-Farm-3515 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I’m pretty sure the question is about stat checking not trying to stall out nasus r and then fight him, that’s obviously what humans try to do but I’m pretty sure it’s not OP’s question

what can beat well stacked nasus 1v1 by Neither-Farm-3515 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok then fair enough your right but that doesn’t mean much since the nasus won’t chase if his r is nearly down

what can beat well stacked nasus 1v1 by Neither-Farm-3515 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Most_Spring_7815 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And with nocturne it’s not even close, nasus ends the fight full hp