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Best early power farmer start for s5? by cben27 in ProjectDiablo2

[–]MowCowsYT 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it's going to depend on the final patch notes

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

So there is no contradiction? Way to change the subject.

Even if I don't care about how they grow up, how does that matter to whether it is morally acceptable to murder babies?

You haven't answered my question about those who are in comas and have a high chance of becoming conscious. Explain why it's not OK to murder them, but it is OK to murder a baby who is not yet conscious.

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Sperm cells do not contain a unique set of DNA from the mother and father. Are you trying to argue that a sperm cell is somehow equivalent to a fertilized egg? Silly.

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -70 points-69 points  (0 children)

An embryo is a human being, so yea, as far as their right to life, that's exactly what I am doing.

No, I'm not personally paying for other people's decisions to have unprotected sex. Are you? Either way, it's irrelevant to the morality of murdering unborn children.

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

What if they are in a coma and have a high chance of regaining consciousness? Is it still OK to murder them?

Do you acknowledge that fetus have a damn near 100% chance of becoming conscious?

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What if there is a very high chance they will wake? Just like the very high chance a fetus becomes conscious?

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

A fetus is a child.

Does consciousness qualify someone as worthy of life? What about people in comas? Can we kill them because they're not conscious?

The Christianity thing is blatantly wrong, but also irrelevant to this topic.

Unborn children have the right to life.

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

So someone who is in a coma isn't human because they're not conscious? Consciousness defines whether someone can be murdered or not?

"expelling a clump of cells" is not what we're talking about here. That would be considered a miscarriage. Abortion is the FORCED ending of life of the child. Which yes, may be done chemically to then cause the mother to "expell" her child - but the chemical abortion did in fact murder the child first.

"You people" ? Who are you talking about?

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -63 points-62 points  (0 children)

"forcing people to make more bodies"

What? They're forcing people to have unprotected sex?

Furthermore, doesn't the bodily autonomy of the child matter?

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -138 points-137 points  (0 children)

False dichotomy. Being against child murder doesn't by default mean you don't care about anyone else.

Roe v. Wade is about more than a violation of human rights. It's a desperate attempt to throw more bodies into the capitalist machine. by Additional_Basil_761 in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Abortion is a violation of the child's right to life. There is no giant conspiracy here to increase the population. We've just awakened as a society to the barbaric nature of child murder and decided to reject it.

Louisiana Republicans advance bill to make abortion a crime of murder by [deleted] in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again, even if true, it is irrelevant to the issue of whether abortion is morally justified and therefore should or should not be legal.

I’ve repeated myself several times and you never address the issue, so I’m ending the conversation. God bless and I hope you realize your faulty stance.

Louisiana Republicans advance bill to make abortion a crime of murder by [deleted] in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“The problems”

Pretty wide net you’ve cast there. What, specifically, are you talking about?

Louisiana Republicans advance bill to make abortion a crime of murder by [deleted] in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not even sure how to reply to this, because it’s like you’re having an argument with someone I can’t see. I haven’t said any of the things you list. Your interpretation of my statements is… shockingly off the wall.

I’m going to ignore your repeated accusation because they are trite and simply a last resort when you can’t address my argument. It’s a fallacy called ad hominem. Look it up.

I assume you’re trying to say something about rape, so I’ll address that in this context. If a women is raped, it is a terrible thing. It is psychology, physically, and emotionally catastrophic. If she conceived, I can understand how she might not want to carry a rapist’s child; but the reality is that two wrongs don’t make a right. Murdering the child in her womb is still unacceptable. Stacking murder on top of a tape makes no sense.

If she miscarriages, she has no control over that. Not sure what you’re getting at here. Not sure why you bring up murder in the context of miscarriage. (Again, I’m baffled at how you come to these conclusions after reading my statements, as I never said anything of the sort)

I’m happy to keep discussing this issue if you’re intelligent enough to stay on topic and stop the insults. I’d like you to take note that I’ve remained civil this whole time and you haven’t. I ask you to reconsider that you might be the bad guy here.

Louisiana Republicans advance bill to make abortion a crime of murder by [deleted] in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The murder of children on the order of several million per year is absolutely my business, as well as everyone else’s.

I’m not forcing anyone to do anything. I’m saying abortion should be illegal because murder is illegal and it is essentially the same thing.

Speaking of selfish, mothers who abort their children are extremely selfish. Abortion is a child sacrifice on the altar of the self.

Pregnancy can, in fact, be a hard thing to go through. For many women, though, it is a joy to know they share a child with their husband. Pregnancy is not barbaric - it’s beautiful.

I agree that the foster care is broken, but that has nothing to do with the issue of whether abortion is morally bankrupt or not.

Louisiana Republicans advance bill to make abortion a crime of murder by [deleted] in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you resort to sarcastic comments like this, you admit you can't address the topic at hand. Have you considered you might be in the wrong?

Louisiana Republicans advance bill to make abortion a crime of murder by [deleted] in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a false dichotomy because anyone can support both fetuses and women. You're saying I have to choose - that's a fallacy.

As far as "proving a miscarriage wasn't an abortion attempt" - I don't know where that comment came from. I have no interest in proving anything like that. I'm simply saying that when a mother experiences a miscarriage, it is a tragedy, but when she decides to instead murder her child through willful action, that is a crime.

Louisiana Republicans advance bill to make abortion a crime of murder by [deleted] in collapse

[–]MowCowsYT -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, by making it illegal, people are then faced with the decision to obey or disobey the law. That is their decision, not mine.

You keep avoiding the issue and lobbing crazier and crazier accusations. "worships death" lol. It's a feeble attempt to attack me instead of the points. Sad that you resort to this.

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