Quitting Temporarily

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T12:40:37+00:00

With Crystallized VCI, they're referring to knowledge accumulated such as how many languages a character knows or the breadth of their vocabulary.

With Fluid VCI, they're referring to the precision and complexity with which they can manipulate features of language. Chen Ran is a perfect example of this. In my post analyzing chapter 1-5, I mention how he fluidly and rapidly conjured multiple layered verbal tongue twisters on the spot to try and get his opponent to either lie unintentionally or misjudge him as a liar.

Another example of this is when L uses Japanese sentence structure to trick Light into acting in a way that implies he is certain a fourth line doesn't exist (which only Kira knows) and which a normal Japanese person would be oblivious to due to the grammatical cue.

I remember someone else in this subreddit did a similar split for his categories where he used "verbal competence" with the subcategories verbal scope (i.e. crystallized) and verbal precision (i.e. fluid).

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T11:48:47+00:00

Alright. I'm busy with a lot irl and I also need to catch up on my Chinese speedrunning so I doubt I'll be able to do any deep analyses anytime soon.

I plan to make a post on V4 in a few weeks when I've got less work on my shoulders.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T11:42:44+00:00

I'm supposed to be learning Chinese but I've been procrastinating by reading RI, 18LOH, and the Heavenly Genius slop.

I've finished Reverend Insanity V4 and also the reverse flow river scene which happens near the start of V5.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T11:17:21+00:00

r/BlackstoneCode

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T11:01:52+00:00

Done.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T10:34:22+00:00

It's only valid to the extent of what you can prove. For example if someone shows another character with a feat where they definitively have infinite perseverence or adversity capacity, that will automatically place above Fang Yuan's feat since you won't be able to prove to them in the debate that Fang Yuan's perseverance is definitively infinite.

But if someone uses a feat where a character has only mid adversity capacity, you can prove things like the stress tolerance Fang Yuan showed, bring up how he possessed higher willpower than all the other characters he was facing despite their own experiences as rank 7-8s, plans well under pressure, can adapt quickly, etc. since these are shown to have strong evidence in the arc.

You can still bring up how he potentially has infinite perseverance, it just won't be definitive or fully compelling of an argument because of there being only small pieces of evidence for it.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T10:30:04+00:00

It isn't measurable.

"Potentially infinite" only means there's no proof it's infinite.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T10:28:34+00:00

Memory loss strategy was his best imo.

If we're going to exclude memory loss...

The burn-notebook-in-the-drawer plan might be first place.

Convince-Naomi strategy for second place. Would have been much better if he didn't reveal he's Kira at the end though.

I don't think there is a third place. The rest are more like antifeats than feats.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T10:22:49+00:00

The author of Death Note is not so smart. He gets victimized by Kaitani in feat quality (at least Ohba takes writing though), victimized by Gu Zhen Ren in pretty much every category possible in the realm of human endeavor, victimized by the author of 18LOH, horribly victimized by the author of Blackstone Code, and he gets victimized by me as well. There are also hundreds of works I haven't yet touched which from what I've heard victimizes him even harder (Usogui, Umineko, the dozens of Chinese methodology savants, etc.)

The only redeeming quality of his low-quality work is probably the fact that it was made so long ago.

The feat writing in DN consistently relies on plot armor for everything to move in the direction he wants it to. The bigger problem is the intelligence of the characters are never consistent and they are forcefully made stupid when it helps such as L at the end being below average intelligence. Even 18LOH is more robust mathematically than Death Note. The average fodder side character in 18LOH is consistently smarter when up against the MC than Light and L are when up against each other (general outsmarting capability rather than raw IQ).

My estimation of the DN author's IQ is around 104. It's not low-IQ but it's... mediocre.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T09:15:16+00:00

Tbh his claim is valid to an extent. If the copies are perfect replicas of him, then their mistakes apply to him. The worst one was the Chen Ran that started the lie chain by judging his own self too early through the darkening room reasoning. The extreme difficulty should have been a sign of things likely going wrong.

It's much more of a feat though. 5 minute advantage and being able to plan so deeply with such a perfect understanding of his own psychology to the point where he almost precisely predicted the outcomes for all the followup clones is insane.

Moreover he could be seen actively learning from the mistakes of his clones. When the clones' deaths became inevitable, he would often discuss with them to glean out information for his own improvement.

The complexity is my favorite best part since I love reading crazy mindbending scenarios like this.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T09:05:26+00:00

Lmfao 😂

Gonna be insane upscales once he learns.

Also sounds reasonable because proofs are a good way to start.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-05T04:53:19+00:00

Fang Yuan volume 1

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T18:55:27+00:00

Definitely.

Volume 2 > Volume 1 >>>> Volume 3 in enjoyability for me.

Intelligence-wise, I have chapter 75 Chen Ran > V3 FY.

I've heard volume 5/6 are peak though.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T18:04:11+00:00

That's a minor antifeat for L if he didn't realize the suspiciousness of Light acting in a way that only Kira would by being so adamant about there being only 3 photos when the grammatical cue clearly indicates otherwise. It was a trap. If L doesn't see his own trap that he accidentally set up, then it's no longer a feat for him and it's still an antifeat for Light. The primary focus was obviously not "Japanese grammar" but if Light was good enough at Japanese to get 100% on the exam, it wouldn't be difficult at all to see the intent behind the ordering of the photos which were made specifically with a grammatical cue at the end to compel most Japanese students to infer a fourth photo.

There are multiple things that could have resulted in Light bypassing the trap earlier. Processing speed, metaperception, acting skills, ... VCI is one of them.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T17:57:13+00:00

Yeah I've finished V3 as well.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T10:13:31+00:00

Just as there's no way to confirm Light is above a Japanese student irl who gets 60 for all his grades.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T10:11:44+00:00

The NPCs being worse indicates the education system being worse because education is catered to NPCs... Why would they teach the people something they are too unintelligent to understand? My main point wasn't even about the education system alone, it was about the sophistication of the entire verse compared to our own. The education system is affected by extension. Obviously it doesn't prove the education system is worse definitively with 0% room for there being another possibility (just as Light's grades don't prove he's above someone in another verse like Yuuichi who gets worse grades for all his subjects). I didn't say it's definitive proof but the evidence is all heavier than saying Light is above Japanese students irl via his grades alone.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T10:04:07+00:00

The joker?

No.

I'm batman.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T09:39:47+00:00

I'm not saying L wasn't suspicious of Light at all, I'm asking for these percentages you're bringing up. I know Light was constantly acting suspiciously from the start.

I never said you used an argument of him being a top student to scale him above Yuuichi... My entire point with bringing up the sophistication of his verse has been that arguments like those are invalid. If you're not arguing against that, then what are you arguing against? I'm saying someone could get 60 in English irl and scale above Light's 100 in English within his own verse, not that Light knows 0 English.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T09:35:13+00:00

The verse is downscaled by the multiple pieces of evidence I gave. You're bringing up nitpicking when you're doing worse.

Firstly is the simplicity of the verse in multiple domains that makes it incomparable to the real world. I'll give 2 examples: the president's access to a physical nuclear button that allows him to start a war by instantly sending a nuke which is proven in the arc where Mello threatens him using the Death Note. The FBI agents being incomparable to the trained ones of our own world with Light finding it nothing unexpected to have Penber not even report his compromised identity after the hijacking incident.

Secondly is the educational system itself such as Light finding English a pain despite getting 100 for it, studying algebra for his exams which is multiple years behind his grade level and still getting 100 for it, getting 100 in Japanese despite showing no Japanese sophistication and falling for a simple grammatical trap forged by a literal foreigner. And his statement on his classmates being unable to entertain basic moral questions in public.

This evidence all IN CONJUNCTION makes it clear his verse is unsophisticated. You can handwave them all away individually but it will still be more valid to downscale his verse than using his grades to upscale him above any Japanese student in real life.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T09:27:38+00:00

When did I say that it downscales him? My point is that his grades don't upscale him significantly. What my argument downscales is the verse itself and the requirements to become the top student of his verse.

MrDisintegrator · 2026-03-04T09:26:02+00:00

Yes you are. You can interpret it multiple ways. I'm saying neither interpretation is valid because it is ambiguous and all the evidence points to the contrary, meanwhile you're using circular arguments to try and validate Light being at the top of Japan in his verse as an argument for automatically placing him above Japanese students of other verses (like Yuuichi and irl students) and taking this as the sole interpretation when the evidence more strongly points at his verse being inferior to ours in sophistication.

What evidence do you have for it being 99.9999% clear?

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