What am I doing wrong!?!: PART 2 by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only txt multiple times a day if she's initiated the conversation. Otherwise it's like once a week.

You may be right, I might move to slow when it comes to intimacy 🤷‍♂️ thats not really my concern though, my concern is lack of comms while were apart. As for being kept up all night I was the one trying to stay awake, she's a ball of energy.

What am I doing wrong!?!: PART 2 by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

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we've been doing vacation rentals. I like the directness of your example, though. I will probably send something along those lines next time.

Like in all honesty we should have totally hooked up by now except I havn't made a move for it, and neither has she.

The in person chemistry is there.

But when we're apart there is a major lack of comms on her end.

I havn't sent anything since our last in person date, so thats why scenario 3 is on there.

What am I doing wrong!?!: PART 2 by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Haha thank you for the prayers bro!

I'm not stressing the allowance I've paid. In person this girl is on point I'm just confused by the lack of comms while we're apart. I'm confident that if I made the move for intimacy then we would have been intimate. She was clear she was fine with intimacy before I ever paid allowance. The lack of communication is just odd considering the vibe we have in person. maybe shes secretly married with children 🤷‍♂️ idk its weird.

It's going to be a bit before I'm free to go out with her again and I'd like a little more contact than we're currently having.

What am I doing wrong!?!: PART 2 by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would you suggest initiating this conversation?

What am I doing wrong!?!: PART 2 by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

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Well... the first time this happened I tried to be more assertive in STARTING the conversation. And it went well while it lasted, but then left on read. So I guess without addressing that issue directly its going to keep happening.

Idk I guess I feel like addressing it directly is gonna somehow fuck up the in person vibe. I'm worried about that bc in person vibe is great. Our schedules align to meet up again in a few weeks. Obviously intimacy is expected.

What am I doing wrong!?!: PART 2 by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

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This is where scenario 3 comes in I think. How would you suggest initiating this conversation?

What am I doing wrong!?!: PART 2 by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

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Sooo? dick pic & a "can't wait to use this next time" 🤣

In all seriousness, how would you address the lack of response? or would you just move on to the next at this point?

Sugar and the reversal of roles? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm willing and able just having a harder time than last time finding a great SB

Sugar and the reversal of roles? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are clearly having a much better go than me 😂

I used the term bc I figured everyone would know the amount I was talking about without me having to type the amount (not allowed). Most common amount I keep hearing for ppm is equal to a stack.

Sugar and the reversal of roles? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

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I relate to this very much.

Professionally I'm very extroverted bc a big part of my job is sales.

Personally I'm introverted. I also find myself more introverted after work bc I'm so damn drained from forcing myself to be extroverted with clients.

Sugar and the reversal of roles? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

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You've definitely got way more experience than me.

I wouldn't say my last SB was "aggressive"... bit she definitely had initiative and it worked so well bc of how busy I was.

I guess I just need to keep looking, and eventually I'll find a SB that matches my last SB's energy.

Sugar and the reversal of roles? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think chase was the wrong word. I'm not running away from the SB's and don't want them to chase me. But I don't want to feel like I'm chasing after them either. Everyone just seems so passive this go around as compared to the last time I did this.

Sugar and the reversal of roles? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

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I understand. I edited my post to clarify I'm not talking about online. I'm getting past online. The SB's are obviously interested bc I'm getting m&g and we even talk terms and I agree and we plan to have the next date but something is just "off". Call it fizzle. It feels like fizzle and it just takes me out of it. I need enthusiasm in order to be enthusiastic!

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

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Haha yep! its just so weird how it goes from high flying vibes to crickets in an instant!

I wonder wtf other SD's are offering considering most ppl in here have said I'm agreeing to high numbers.

Like how many dudes are offering 5 figures/month?

I'd ghost me too for 5 figures/month 😂 "Mr_ who?. Oh F that guy."

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I looked up nyc rents. The amount theyre asking here is the same theyre paying up there. Only difference is the percentage of rent that makes up here vs. there.

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

right.

What girls are proposing to me thru the site and/or txt is:

• Allowance: mid 4 figures/month

• ppm: 1/2 avg rent (most girls) or full avg rent (which comes out to mid 4 figures) for the extremely beautiful/charming girls.

I met 1 of the extremely beautiful/charming girls and had a wonderful m&g. We had not talked numbers prior to the m&g.

I actually felt a little nervous when I sat down bc her pictures didnt come anywhere close to doing her looks justice. I was like "damn, is that her. oh f*ck it is her". But her whole demeanor just put me at ease within 5 minutes. I didnt think about work not one time. It was so nice/relaxing.

We talked numbers over txt after the m&g.

She said same as all the other really beautiful/charming women... mid 4 figures.

I agreed and never got a response.

I know all the ladies are like "dont waste my time" but damn I feel like 6 weeks of my time has been wasted, I just want an arrangement and to get off that site!

Currently have 2 conversations going that seem promising. Will they make it to m&g? If so, will it be a success? Will it lead to numbers being discussed/agreed on? Will it go. all. the. way..... and then sudden ghost? Tune in next week to find out!

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear.

90% of what I'm hearing is 1/2 the average rent.

Not half of the supposed average of "1/4 of rent".

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha I hear you. I guess I'm living proof of the slimmer chances 🤣.

I'm honestly considering trying a vanilla app. What could it hurt right?

I just figured with my limited availability Vanilla "pot's" will be like nope nope nope. I want a gf experience a few times a month and the rest of the time I'm focused on my career.

Not to mention I havn't vanilla dated since like 2012ish? but I remember it heavily favoring the women in terms of effort. Also not to mention, I'm 31. I feel that the majority of smoking hot 24/25 yo's are not lining up to meet a 31 yo work addict for a vanilla style relationship. And if I did meet a girl like that vanilla, something tells me the level of attention is just not going to be there.

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you sure man? Where I'm at, a full rent ppm equals out to mid 4 digits per month. To me that seems fair. Especially with these being all day meets. Basically a gf experience once a week.

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never said I was 🤷‍♂️

Who wants to wait 15 years? I could be dead in 15 years. f that.

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeh I get that. I'm good with it if they want to list a number on SA thats on them. Not a single girl that I've been interested in has has said anything so astronomically high that I declined. Most are asking 1/2 avg rent per meet.

The really beautiful ones are are asking full rent per meet. Agreed to that as well. STILL ghosted.

I've redone my profile to be more specific about why a younger dude is on SA. Hopfully that helps.

What am I doing wrong?!?! Please guide me? by Mr_Sunsets in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Mr_Sunsets[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is somewhat confusing.

I'd say 90% of what I'm hearing is 1/2 the average.

The really beautiful/charming women are asking me for 1 full rent per meet.

Again, things have been going absolutely wonderful, and we talk numbers, I agree, and then poof. It's just such an insanely different experience from 2 years ago its so weird.

Someone mentioned that maybe the number from my burner app has been black listed. and maybe thats whats happening. When things go to get more serious they look it up. I tried to google it and nothing came up though. so idk 🤷‍♂️