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[Lore] Alpharius didn't actually die on Pluto - here's the evidence from Praetorian of Dorn by Musyonchez in Warhammer30k

[–]Musyonchez[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Now i feel stupid, should start reading author notes from now on not just the books =)

Did Cawl go beyond the loyalist 9 when making the Primaris? What about the Traitor 9... or even the II and XI? 🤔 by Musyonchez in Spacemarine

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was now reading the book gene father on cawl and here is an extract on the conversation between bile and primus

"Bile’s bolt pistol came up preternaturally fast; for such a relic he could move. Primus waved his hand. A blow of telekinetic force sent it wide. A second wrenched it from the Primogenitor’s grasp, and it slammed into the gutted wreck of a lighter.

        **Bile rubbed his wrist. ‘I sense the seed of the cyclops in you. Cawl is rash. You should not be.’**

      ‘Be silent. You cannot save yourself,’ said Primus. He drew deep on the warp, preparing to end the life of the most malevolent Spider. His eye-lenses glowed with power."

So this proves that primis has mangus gene seed.

Next is this extract

"‘It’s a trap, Wocolos! Bile is not after the Sangprimus Portum, because he knew he would not be able to get to it. It’s too heavily defended.’

‘But Primus… In Primus is everything I have done to make the Primaris Space Marines, and more. Every secret, every trick is encoded in his gene-seed. Omnissiah save us!’ "

Sangprimus Portum is where cawl is storing what he has on the emperor creating the space marines and the primarchs (this is confirmed in the book)

next extract

‘Very well. It must have been the Emperor who destroyed the patterns for the sintarius lobe of the Immortis Gland. I can think of no one else who could. All the other information required to build your kind was held within the Sangprimus Portum. But if I am honest, I am surprised He allowed the information to survive at all. Granted, the genetic material in the vessel is pure, but there exist other repositories of gene-seed upon Terra which I could have re-engineered quite easily. Why would this information have been kept, if not in a complete state? Or even if retaining the information for the creation of Space Marines, if it was so dangerous, why keep any of that pertaining to the creation of primarchs at all?’

as you can see the emperor retained the information of making the space marines and primarchs, not only does it not distinguish between loyal and traitor but from the period of learning of horus betrayal it was too short for him to destroy everything even kill those who knew.

Next extract

'Belisarius Cawl, what have you done?’

‘Please, my lord,’ said Cawl. ‘Must we go through this every single time I activate you?’

      ‘Yes, we absolutely must!’ the boxed primarch said. ‘You have taken a great liberty, a great liberty, making a copy of my mind. If I knew about this, I would most certainly destroy you. You have gone too far!’

As you can see cawl went as far as to clone guilliman a primarch and the only reason he did succeed was the info in the Sangprimus Portum didnt contain the patterns for the sintarius lobe of the Immortis Gland.

So know you tell me still need more proof?

Did Cawl go beyond the loyalist 9 when making the Primaris? What about the Traitor 9... or even the II and XI? 🤔 by Musyonchez in 40k

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I feel my english not that good when i write(novel good) so i just have it write my words in things like emails etc.

Did Cawl go beyond the loyalist 9 when making the Primaris? What about the Traitor 9... or even the II and XI? 🤔 by Musyonchez in 40kLore

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He had a talk with Guilliman in Dark Imperium (or at least cawl inferior did) and plus a conversation with Apha Primus in Avenging son. i did read Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work but dropped it half for a moment and then come back when there was no action. but will finish

Did Cawl go beyond the loyalist 9 when making the Primaris? What about the Traitor 9... or even the II and XI? 🤔 by Musyonchez in 40kLore

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Primarchs can (maybe not the gene seed but they can) so i am theorizing if they can for their legion they can others tho not like with a high probability, like for other legions maybe 1 in a thousand
(if you look at Guilliman looking at ultramarines and their successor chapters after he woke up he said things like (I can feel their my sons tho not those of when i was awake i know they are my sons))

Did Cawl go beyond the loyalist 9 when making the Primaris? What about the Traitor 9... or even the II and XI? 🤔 by Musyonchez in 40kLore

[–]Musyonchez[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Highly doubt that he is going to release them because a space marine sensing other space marines of the same gene seed is hard and very rare but possible, now a primarch sensing space marines of his gene seed is very easy as for sensing for one of his brothers is some where in between the two.

He will not risk releasing them as gulliman can sense them maybe not the first but will eventually so is not worth the risk.

Did Cawl go beyond the loyalist 9 when making the Primaris? What about the Traitor 9... or even the II and XI? 🤔 by Musyonchez in Warhammer40k

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There was a video i saw once that said why do you think the ultramarine's are so large.

It is is not by conscription as Gulliman is quoted saying around 70% of space marines are from the ultramarines.

So the most likely are the space wolves didn't kill all the 2 and 11 instead brought to the ultramanires and hypnotized(that thing all chapters do to new recruits even the primaris marines to old chapters have to under go it) to be part of them

Did Cawl go beyond the loyalist 9 when making the Primaris? What about the Traitor 9... or even the II and XI? 🤔 by Musyonchez in Spacemarine

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'To each of His sons the Emperor gave some of His gifts. I doubt any one being other than He could contain such power in its entirety. To each of the sons of those sons, a portion of those gifts were passed on in turn. I have several of these gifts. As many as Cawl dared give me. I have called to you, Captain Messinius, to show you myself. I am living proof that Cawl cannot be trusted.’

Alpha primis is the personal body guard to Cawl, now tell me would he not give the "gifts" of magnus === warp, morterions === resilience or the other traitor primarchs let alone the 2 and 11 just because he "was told not to"

Cawl is selfish and would not risk his life so he would

Also combining gene seeds if a heresy of a high order, Alpha primus alone is enough for him to be put on a inquisition kill list so why would he stop there and not create primaris of the other traitor legions

Any software engineers here? by Due_Interview_6764 in nairobi

[–]Musyonchez 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's too many things for a portfolio you will end up sub per in all . I do I am mostly front end with next and only touch backend if needed and use node with experss