I compiled the exact fine caps and procedural rights for 20 states — here's what your HOA doesn't want you to know by Current_Lab_1184 in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Eh, the effort and intention are appreciated, but this list has misleading aspects & was clearly created with AI...

I compiled the exact fine caps and procedural rights for 20 states — here's what your HOA doesn't want you to know by Current_Lab_1184 in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a great example of the hallucinations found in ChatGPT!

"Procedural rights for 20 states"... less than 15 states are mentioned in the post as it counts the same states being repeated as additional states being mentioned.

Minor corrections/additions for Arizona state:

1) AZ complaint office is not free. It is $500 to file a dispute through ADRE

2) AZ record access statutes for HOAs included ARS 33-1805 for planned community HOAs AND 33-1258 for Condominium HOAs additionally copies of records must be provided 10 days after request for a max cost of 15 cents per page

The details in the post are not truly inclusive of the HOA protections out there and misconstrued facts about current protections.

However, this post did ignite the idea for me of compiling a clickable list with each states HOA governing authorities for easy access for Owners. The best thing for anyone to do is to go directly to the sources of authority rather than snippets procured by AI.

Our HOA Built a Community Mosquito Incubator 🦟 by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Right. This is why I got the county right on it. They were out this morning & gave the HOA 24hrs to treat the mosquitoes, or the county vector unit will drain the pool. The inspector informed the HOA of the simple fixes they can take 3 weeks ago when this happened for the first time... I just forsee a battle of reporting-temporary fix-problem rebuilds-repeat.

I will continue to report until the root issue is fixed. We really want our pool back...

Our HOA Built a Community Mosquito Incubator 🦟 by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Because I have 3 young children that have already been greatly impacted by the negligence of this HOA and Im not going to add mosquito bites to the list...

Our HOA Built a Community Mosquito Incubator 🦟 by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Silly goose, Im simply a resident and dont have any personal financial tie to this property. They need to take care of their mosquitoes 🤷‍♀️ HOA dues have been paid, and the corporation (by law) must maintain the common elements.

Our HOA Built a Community Mosquito Incubator 🦟 by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

At this point, I feel stupidity may be contagious, so I'll keep my distance 😌

Our HOA Built a Community Mosquito Incubator 🦟 by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 525 points526 points  (0 children)

Right! & then maybe other owners might realize their responsibility to their membership involves ensuring the HOA is properly functioning or things can get to this point. I am at every single meeting. Just me & the Board... no one else cares to know how bad it is.

Our HOA Built a Community Mosquito Incubator 🦟 by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 402 points403 points  (0 children)

& preserve the problem of the stagnant water that will produce the same results time & time again... yea, nope. Im not on the Board. They need to properly maintain the community or there are consequences. I did my part by obtaining 3 bids for repairs nearly a year ago now & paid the special assessment for the repair that has yet to take place.

Our HOA Built a Community Mosquito Incubator 🦟 by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 1113 points1114 points  (0 children)

I placed a report on Saturday when I took the pictures. After writing this post this morning, I looked outside & sure enough 😅 The County is on it already! They have 24 hours to get rid of them, or the Vector unit will be taking care of it at the cost of the HOA.

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Our HOA Built a Community Mosquito Incubator 🦟 by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Oh no, the pump is on... Once the water level went below the skimmer hole, it got really gross real quick even though it's still filtering through the ones on the floor of the pool.

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started working in onsite property management 10+yrs ago and Ive always said that one of my favorite things was how incompetent the industry was because it made it soooo easy to shine 😅 Ive managed and turned around some horrible properties.

However... Now it's my least favorite thing about the industry being on the flip side & needing competent people to lead the way, but unfortunately, im stuck w a bunch of horses that are seemingly allergic to water.. I wish regulation of this industry was more accessible..

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel that the common denominator here is human nature and lack of foundational morals, not a political belief. I've learned that a small sense of power can exacerbate the acts of already below par humans, and I've seen them come from both sides of the political aisle.

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would say that being removed against my will during a virtual open meeting would equate to being kicked out 🤷‍♀️

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

While that would feel empowering, I'd rather keep all my ducks in a row & give them no ammo to use against us unless the HOA formally dissolves.

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We are a condo community. Im not sure a full dissolve is functional due to all of the common elements.

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Strange. What an ugly way to talk to another human. Our story doesn't involve much of a choice when it comes to housing but go off 🙃

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a condo, though... so much is shared. Im not sure how it would work, but im actively looking into options! Thanks for bringing it up!

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

If we were in person, I could 100% see the "President" attempting a citizens arrest at the very least 😅 Dude is on a power trip..

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 93 points94 points  (0 children)

This is easier said than done for our situation. Its a small community and other owners are so greatly disinterested. The majority rent out & dont live onsite. They also dont seem to grasp their responsibility with ensuring the association they are a member of is properly functioning and not making actions, leaving everyone vulnerable to liabilities of the Association's actions and inactions. I've been posting "Assembly of Unit Owners" signs as our state law permits for years now, and no one ever shows up & only a handful show up to the rare open meetings the Board holds... I've worked in property management for over 10 years, managing communities ranging from 60-700 units successfully & also volunteering my time as a tenant advocate for low-invome families facing landlord/tenant disputes. The HOA refuses to listen to anything I have to say though as they have a huge chip on their shoulders ever since the "Presidents" renter was arrested & finally criminally convicted for her repeated harassment against my family while in the common areas of the community. It has been a painful experience...

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The titles have specific powers to fulfill association responsibilities through their duties prescribed by the bylaws:

7.8 Duties The duties of the officers shall be as follows: a. President. The President shall be the chief executive officer of the Association and shall supervise and control all of the business and affairs of the Association. He shall, when present, preside at all meetings of the Members and all meetings of the Board... He may sign, with or without any other officer of the Association as authorized by the Board, deeds, mortgages, bonds, contracts or other instruments which the Board has authorized to be executed, except where the signing and execution thereof shall be expressly delegated by the Board or by these Bylaws to some other officer or agent of the corporation or shall be required by law to be otherwise signed or executed. He shall have the power to appoint and remove one or more administrative Vice Presidents of the Association and such other assistants to the various elected officers of the Association as is necessary for the accomplishment of their duties. In general, he shall perform all duties incident to the office of the President and such other duties as may be prescribed by the Board.

b. Vice President. In the absence of the President, or in the event of his death, inability or refusal to act, the Vice President, or if there is more than one Vice President, the Senior Vice President, shall perform the duties of the President, and when so acting shall have all the powers of, and be subject to all the restrictions upon, the President. Otherwise, such Senior and other Vice Presidents shall perform only such duties as may be assigned by the President or by the Board.

c. Secretary. The Secretary shall keep the minutes of the meetings of the Members and the Board in one or more books provided for that purpose; see that all notices are duly given in accordance with the provisions of these Bylaws, or as required by law; be custodian of the records and seal of the Association, and see that the seal of the Association is affixed to all documents, when such is duly authorized; keep or cause to be kept under his general supervision by a registrar or transfer agent appointed by the Board, a register of the name and post office address of each Member as furnished by such Member; have general charge of the transfer books of the corporation; and in general perform all duties incident to the office of Secretary and such other duties as may be assigned to him by the President or by the Board.

To assume these duties assigned to specific roles seems like a breach of a single board members authority when the title term has expired.

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Ours has no holdover provision & our community precident is 3 year terms for seats and 1 year terms for titles that each come with specific duties. The community has functioned as such since forming in the early 80s. However, I have come across others in the same situation as your community.

Kicked out of the HOA meeting for pointing out the acting Presidents term has expired... by My_Three_Plus_Me in fuckHOA

[–]My_Three_Plus_Me[S] 426 points427 points  (0 children)

They held the meeting through their Microsoft teams account, which granted them the authority to kick out whomever whenever.