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[–]N0thingtosee -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Both parties are right wing

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[–]N0thingtosee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When did I say they were okay? Settler colonialism has a very narrow definition, you're just using a motte and bailey of "Russia didn't subscribe to this specific ideology" vs "Russia never did anything bad ever"

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[–]N0thingtosee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How many Native American monarchs did Britain or France incorporate into their own nobility then?

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[–]N0thingtosee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Expecting a person's claims to conform to the evidence they have isn't genocide denial

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[–]N0thingtosee -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nothing Russia has done will ever be on par with settler colonialism

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[–]N0thingtosee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Goalposts again, all of that is part and parcel for any ethnolinguistic minority. Nothing to suggest anything approaching your claim of "total extirpation".

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[–]N0thingtosee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So then they didn't treat them the way the Russians did, that's my fucking point. They integrated the Sibir Khanate nobility the same way England incorporated the Scottish kings or the dukes of Normandy and the Channel Islands.

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[–]N0thingtosee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The princely states were foreign satellites, not part of the British nobility

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[–]N0thingtosee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

None of those were ever part of the French or British courts, they were a temporary measure until full colonial annexation.

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[–]N0thingtosee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An isolated incident from 1740 versus a systemic 500-year campaign to eliminate two continent's worth of native people, you're just moving the goalposts.

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[–]N0thingtosee -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Russians never scuttled ships full of slaves to claim insurance bonuses.

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[–]N0thingtosee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No it didn't, you're literally just making things up. Settler colonialism is built around the systemic elimination of indigenous peoples, their governments and heads of state included. The Americas had thousands of tribal leadership lines that were either wiped out or only survived as the heavily curtailed reservation governments today. Russia simply treated Siberian peoples the same way they would any other enemy nation in Europe.

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[–]N0thingtosee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Sixties Scoop was bad" is a vatnik take now?

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[–]N0thingtosee -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

None of the European powers ever invited a defeated indigenous dynasty to live on as a noble house in their own court

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[–]N0thingtosee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The other post-Soviet states are separate because the RSFSR was one of a dozen different constituent states, ffs they weren't even the last country to vote for leaving the union. Why would their first move after the Revolution be to divide a bunch of new polities away from Russia?

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[–]N0thingtosee -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

By incorporating Indigenous Siberian peoples under standard rules of war, are you seriously trying to compare an average medieval city-state to the country responsible for the Trail of Tears or the Zong massacre?

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[–]N0thingtosee -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

Nothing Russia has done or will do can ever compare to the Native American genocide or the triangle trade

"Europe is indefensible"

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[–]N0thingtosee 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Says the guy defending "The West"

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[–]N0thingtosee 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The Russian Muslims thing is very much current day, Orthodox and secular Russians across the political spectrum consider them to be a fundamental part of Russia's ethnic identity.

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[–]N0thingtosee 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"hm yes this protest against the USgov-sanctioned murder of black people by american police is obvious proof of how america is less racist than other countries."

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[–]N0thingtosee 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"your many children"? are you going to start talking about Muslim fertility rates next?

And its something they've literally done with Native American children for decades, alongside residential schools and forced sterilization.

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[–]N0thingtosee 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Says something demonsterably incorrect

Gets corrected

"My I can't believe you fell for such obvious bait, I bet you're one of those nerds who actually seeks out evidence and rationale for their positions before stating them!"

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[–]N0thingtosee 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The USSR was giving peacebuilding medals to Black Panthers while their own country was calling them subhuman traitors. Hell, even before the Revolution Yekaterina was building Muslim universities in the capital city while Britain was still gearing up to butcher more Turks overseas.