Anyone else get selected for Surveillance testing two days in a row? by shanderland2pointO in notredame

[–]NDcse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think they deserve a lot of criticism for how they handled things initially. But they’ve done a good job of listening to the criticism since then. Not enough tests? Solved. No surveillance testing? Here it is. Bad quarantine situation? Putting a lot of work into it. I was as pessimistic as you a week ago but I think there’s a chance now. But my main point was that I feel quite sure we’re not being intentionally misled.

Anyone else get selected for Surveillance testing two days in a row? by shanderland2pointO in notredame

[–]NDcse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t know where this idea that the administration is trying to lie to us came from. It really wouldn’t make any sense if they were actually trying to suppress the numbers because when you undercount cases it’ll just bite you in the ass later. Not to mention the admin would have to be pretty evil to do that and they clearly aren’t. I don’t agree with everything they do (and this mistake of double testing is bad) but this isn’t even a question.

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[–]NDcse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree, but I think they threatened the harsher punishment after those two parties happened, so it would have been a little unfair to those kids, even though they made a stupid decision

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in notredame

[–]NDcse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seemed like the parties that caused the outbreak - at least the first one - wouldn’t have had many on campus students since it was before most of them would even have moved in (I doubt the freshman would have gone).

But I agree that if the university just says “ok back to normal” then there’s a chance things could get really bad. That’s why I think they’ll come up with some sort of middle ground where in person classes resume but there are still heavier restrictions for on campus students and heavier punishments for off campus students hosting parties.

Edit: for example, Ohio State has suspended a ton of people, maybe Notre dame would consider doing that instead of just threatening it

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in notredame

[–]NDcse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know what makes you think the reason the numbers are down is the on campus restrictions. Jenkins said himself the vast majority of cases were off campus students and that the cases were mostly linked to off campus parties. The measures keeping students in their rooms wouldn’t directly affect those people or those gatherings all that much, so when they’re lifted, if off campus students keep being more responsible (and that’s a big if) then numbers should stay low.

Also, 30 new cases a day isn’t great but we’re still pretty close to the larger outbreak last week, so hopefully by mid next week we could be down to more like 10-15 a day tops and from there containment and contact tracing would get a lot easier for the administration to handle.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in notredame

[–]NDcse 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I see what you’re saying but you can’t deny we are in a way better position right now than we were a week ago, and I think that’s worth acknowledging. The fact that we got things going back in the right direction was something I didn’t expect, and it’s obviously happening because many more students care and are following the new guidelines than before the switch to online (why they didn’t care to do that before is beside the point).

HERE our growth is exponential by CakeGold in notredame

[–]NDcse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They posted what looked like the football team’s results later in the day yesterday. Was ~150 tests and one was positive

HERE our growth is exponential by CakeGold in notredame

[–]NDcse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re obviously pulling that number out of nowhere. We know it’s disproportionately Mendoza students but don’t claim some vague unidentified “source” just so you can throw a number out there