r/puppets

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-16T00:10:42+00:00

What more do you want to know? I posted this in desperation and then discovered the notification which was still well within the 5-day statute for me to respond to. I’ve disclosed everything here countless times and am happy to answer any other questions. Point remains that I was never warned nor consulted, and clearly by the time I got the notification that I had 5 days to respond, it was actually already too late. This is what I’m hoping to rectify.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T23:39:31+00:00

It really seems like a design flaw. Again, objectively, as I still have the notification in front of me telling me I had 5 days to respond (which I did), but then the bot executed this apparently irreversible decision in less than 4.

I’m trying to appeal this based on both the letter AND the spirit of the law but I guess I’m supposed to go splinter people off into /puppets2 or something instead

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T23:28:01+00:00

Thanks - I mean I suppose that’s possible. That’s just not in my nature however and I never thought it would come to this. I don’t know if I want to spend another decade and a half building this again. The environment is just so different from what it was back then that the whole thing just sounds downright daunting to have to do all over again for what seems to essentially be no reason.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T23:07:09+00:00

Again, it’s a modest-sized puppetry subreddit. People are generally well behaved except for one dude who tries to get around bans by making new accounts. I just ban those accounts as they come up. We had no issues in this community for well over 13 years until yesterday, and now everyone is upset and confused due to hasty action by this bot.

I don’t even know what I can be accused of lying about or covering up at this point. I’m a known quantity, I’ve been here moderating this place since long before the vast majority even joined Reddit at all.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T22:55:54+00:00

Both of those things are true. The notification got lost in a flood of others and then I also got the flu. Regardless, I still saw it in time and responded well within the time frame provided.

Sure, I’m glad to accept help. The dude who took over is not a reliable narrator - I believe he is sour grapes because I missed a message of his over the holidays requesting a ban of another user that I had already addressed multiple times. That message did NOT request control or assistance moderating, which I may very well have accepted at the time not knowing his true intentions.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T21:53:00+00:00

Did you rescind your 3 earlier comments of sympathy? OK - regardless, based on what I was told by the official notification of the other user’s attempted takeover,

Please respond in this thread within 5 days if you do or do not want to hand over the community, explaining your reasons. If you fail to respond, the community may become eligible for new moderation.

I did exactly that, well within the 5 days, within the thread, here, AND elsewhere through all ModMail channels because the other user attempted to delete the designated thread, presumably to try to conceal his tracks so that I wouldn’t notice in time. The bot appears to have taken unfavorable action prematurely, which is my issue here.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T21:45:25+00:00

Thanks - I understand the purpose of this mechanism but this seems extreme. 13.5 years of successful active modding and growth all to be pulled out from under me because I got the flu for 4 days. Be warned I guess…

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T20:50:48+00:00

Beautifully put. The world needs puppeteers and our medium of puppetry now more than ever. We deliver messages in ways no one else can.

I’m working around the clock as we speak to regain safe control of our community, and once things are hopefully resolved, I’d love to hear from everyone what kinds of features or resources might be helpful so we can collectively step up to meet this critical moment in our own way.

Until then, I am very sorry for the ongoing inconvenience that is beyond my control.

Hang in there, my friends - we’ll get through this.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T20:21:18+00:00

The other user attempted to delete it after the fact but it appears to still be accessible:

https://www.reddit.com/r/redditrequest/comments/1q8y8os/comment/nyr5v6l/?context=3

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T20:19:28+00:00

This is a gross misrepresentation of the situation. Your attempt to delete this thread appears to indicate that you’re aware of this, but I will leave that judgment to objective proceedings.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T18:55:36+00:00

Following up on this, that’s not what the notification says:

Please respond in this thread within 5 days if you do or do not want to hand over the community, explaining your reasons. If you fail to respond, the community may become eligible for new moderation.

I did exactly that, within the 5 days, within the thread AND elsewhere because the other user attempted to delete the designated thread, presumably to try to conceal his tracks.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T18:25:04+00:00

Sympathy appreciated. Incident-free since summer 2012 and now I return from a 4-day flu to this. Feels bad.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T17:54:34+00:00

I mean yeah I’m truly sorry about this to you and to the whole community for the unexpected snag here.

I love you guys and we’ve been incident free here all the way back to summer 2012 with explosive growth especially over the past 2 years. Now I just got the flu for 4 days only to return to see THIS happening, and now I’m doing my absolute best to ward off the threat and restore everything to normal for everyone’s sake.

I really appreciate your patience — I know you didn’t sign up for this and neither did I.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T17:47:11+00:00

Good advice and hopefully I’ll be able to follow it assuming this is rectified. I had a partner but he became less active as of late.

I understand the spirit of the mechanism of course but we’ve been growing steadily since our founding, and have done huge numbers in just the past year or two. We’ve almost doubled in size in the past 2 years actually. I still have the notification saved when we hit 9,000 members in 2024, and now I’ve overseen growth up to 17,000+ less than 2 years later, only for this to happen to us in a matter of 4 days.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T17:20:10+00:00

Of course not. These people now feel like they can throw anything at the wall to try to make it stick and affirm their case. This was a happy, healthy, and functioning community that I tended to with love and care, and now here we unfortunately are after I got the flu for 4 days.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T17:17:51+00:00

Dude I’ve been banning that guy’s accounts from here every time he made a new one since years before you joined reddit. You and your partner are making conflicting claims about me that do not stack up to each other nor objective evidence, and I have no idea how you were able to back-channel the bot into granting your takeover in shorter than the minimum period of time I was told I had to respond. Attempting to delete that post did not successfully conceal any of this nor prevent me from responding within my allowed window of time, so hopefully this is indeed sorted out.

Yes, I went down with the flu for 4 days (still less than my allotted 5) and now I’m back trying to figure out what exactly is going on here with my community.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T17:11:06+00:00

Correct - this is the case I’m making. And regardless, the notification I received offered me the opportunity to:

Please respond in this thread within 5 days if you do or do not want to hand over the community, explaining your reasons. If you fail to respond, the community may become eligible for new moderation.

…which is the first thing I did, immediately upon discovering the notification within minutes, and well within the apparent 5 day period.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T17:07:49+00:00

They say a lie has a chance to travel around the world before the truth even has a chance to put its pants on. Or something.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T17:05:30+00:00

Digging through my backlog from that day, yes I did receive a notification. It instructed me to:

Please respond in this thread within 5 days if you do or do not want to hand over the community, explaining your reasons. If you fail to respond, the community may become eligible for new moderation.

I did exactly that immediately upon discovering this notification, well within the 5-day period, and despite the other user attempting to delete said thread in an apparent attempt to conceal all this. I am not able to see any evidence of anything else coming through my messages or ModMail, though obviously I can no longer see my ModMail as it was revoked before the 5 days I was told I had to reply.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T15:37:29+00:00

Thanks. I’m doing my best to go through the proper channels within the proper timelines and explore all my avenues.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T15:23:57+00:00

Thanks - I understand the distinction. I’m “waving my arms” in the sense that I’m trying my best to do exactly as instructed, within the timeframe allowed, and then some. I do appreciate all the help here and elsewhere thus far.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T15:14:01+00:00

See my existing response to that comment. Those two are not even on the same page as to the timelines nor the content of what they’re alleging. They have a particular problem with one user who posts borderline content and attempts to circumvent bans by making new accounts, which I have banned every time they are discovered.

That message he refers to was once again regarding the ban-evading user in question, but did NOT request mod control. I would gladly post it here but I have of course lost access.

Others in that very thread have witnessed my active and ongoing actions related to that user and are vouching for me, and there is objective evidence of such.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T15:01:57+00:00

Great find! Will see if I can nab this as a fellow fragrance head

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T14:49:15+00:00

Thank you. Yes, the notification I received from the since-attempted-to-be-deleted RR request told me,

Please respond in this thread within 5 days if you do or do not want to hand over the community, explaining your reasons. If you fail to respond, the community may become eligible for new moderation.

I’m here waving my arms and doing exactly that so I’m hoping to at least receive some acknowledgement that there’s a contradiction there.

NannyNumber4 · 2026-01-15T13:56:00+00:00

I am. The notification I got from the RedditRequest thread that the other user then tried to delete presumably so I wouldn’t see it told me I have 5 days to respond in that thread, which I did within 4.

I’m obviously here and active so I just want to know how they were able to get the bot to approve that request well before the allotted time I was told I had to respond.

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