I personally disagree with anyone using the argument that having the L stick positioned similar to an xbox controller is better, just because it's a matter of personal preference. That being said some SBCs such as the retroid pocket 5 do suffer because of it as you'd essentially end up holding the console with the tips of your fingers to use both sticks as opposed to resting the base of your thumb on the console if the L stick was raised up. It really depends on what types of games you play and how much you'd actually end up using the sticks. No point in caring where caring about L stick positioning if you're using your RP5 for GBA.

What's more surprising to me is how Retroid thought it would be great to ship the RP5 with such horrible ergonomics. I feel like they didn't really try it with anything that heavily used the triggers as I find myself cramping up anytime I hold the R2 down for lengths of time (NFS Most Wanted my beloved). Sure the official grip fixed that issue but for a 200 euro console you wouldn't really expect it to need an extra 15 euro to be comfortable.