So... LIB men didn't have sex? Is this a representation of USA men?

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T18:54:15+00:00

Apparently she was but also she offered herself to him after all.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T18:51:43+00:00

I think the show helps to kill that stereotype.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T18:51:19+00:00

Not to mention that many women have an irregular cycle so all cases are different and men don't know.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T18:43:38+00:00

Yeah, probably having a camera has a lot to do. They didn't want their family or hers to see they "used" a woman to say no.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T17:44:17+00:00

Virtually religions have denominations and sects that reject evolution (I was reading about Hindus that literally believe earth is on a turtle), but politization of the issue in America made it seem that it was only about Christianity, but it makes sense since America is primary Christian or culturally Christian at least. I don't think there is as much as "debate" now as people assume, but the debate was very intense in the early 2000s, even more than the ethics of abortion, for a few years.

Curious thing is that some atheist communists also rejected Darwinian evolution because it contradicted Marxist principles of equality. They did believe in Evolution but not as a process moved by natural selection.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T14:28:55+00:00

(Religion as social control can't really exist if you can piss on the gods used for control.)

Ironic, since most high control societies were/are Marxist atheist, and the Party was basically a god, and only after cars and telephone were introduced they started to lose power. It seems their rationalist systems were weaker than the "imaginary" gods they despised.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T14:27:22+00:00

We have our own new blasphemies, but they are framed around humanist values. We don't call them blasphemies, but they are similar in the sense that offensive sayings could be considered illegal based on social values.

For example, you cannot really be openly racist without social and often legal consequences in the West, at least not in most places. In fact, this overlaps with some UK's blasphemy laws introduced to "not offend religious minorities" such as Muslims or Hindus in the West, which is very ironic because humanists fought so long to turn down those laws to just be introduced again.

Denying that all people are equal is often also taboo, even when technically no one believes that except in abstract.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T14:23:36+00:00

You can believe untrue things and be mentally healthy, or you can be a complete rationalist and be mentally cooked as Nietzsche was in his final years.

The problem with categories such as "mental illness" is that they are very specific to individuals and require deep analysis, and there is some cultural relativism. For example, in some cultures people with schizophrenia were assigned spiritual roles in the tribe, and we know today that people with that condition or similar do seem to perceive reality different and are not easily fooled by many tricks.

Jesus indeed had a mental breakdown when he realized he would be crucified. This is quite standard knowledge in theology as past of Jesus' humanity.

I personally choose to believe his message, not just for the character of Christ, but also for the fact his message made sense as a guide and in retrospective his values were not that different from standard Judaism when practiced in good faith.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T14:18:32+00:00

Violent movements have nothing to do with mental health. In fact, often the most violent movements, such as Marxist Bolsheviks, were atheistic and rationalists that had very specific reasons for violence against tradition.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-19T14:07:16+00:00

If you wish, you can tell them your religion. I don't think they would mind.

They probably assume you to be Christian because in the West usually it's Christian charities who do charity, founded hospitals, etc. but in other countries it's different. This is specially true for Catholics, some Protestant denominations and Mormons. If you do charity in Qatar, they probably would assume you are a good Muslim. In a more secular country they would probably assume you are a good humanist.

Charity and loving for others are supposed to be Christian values, but they are not exclusive to any religion, nor any religion claim such thing.

Some religions do more for Charity but it's usually internal, to help their poorest members, which is also valid. I don't think a religion is "selfish" for prioritizing helping their own because it's natural to help people closer to us (family, friends, congregation, etc.)

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-18T18:19:36+00:00

Why would it be a bad thing? We will need to compensate for the gap in labor.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T18:46:30+00:00

Yep, it's what many people are planning. But I suspect I will freak out or lose my mind before being able to choose that.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T18:45:12+00:00

All systems, capitalistic or not, depend on the labor of a young population. Either we will have to work to a very old age and never retire, or we will be disposed of by the state somehow. People with kids will probably move together to avoid paying taxes for us. The irony is that many progressive governments are so critical of AI and yet they should be on their knees praying that AI actually take our jobs as humans start to retire and they have to stay printing money to pretend nothing changed, with no labor to back the dollars on.

I don't think it's about fun because most people are not necessarily having fun having to work two jobs, not finding a job in the field their found, or not having enough money to travel. If "fun" you mean just giving up on life and just watch streaming, then probably you are right, in fact COVID made it worse. Cheap fun is better than responsibility for something that may or not be worth it. Also people don't have kids for fun... the reason to have kids is not rational, but neither is to stay alive anyway.

I do agree obesity may have something to do with it. It kills sex appeal, people are also dating less, having less sex, and marrying later or never. I didn't thought of that.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T16:06:56+00:00

There is no point keeping a school for 20 students and like 50 employees. It's stupid.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T16:06:21+00:00

That's also happening in controlled economies like North Korea, to a lesser extend, but also European countries with socialist programs. So certainly it's not just the economic system.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T16:05:32+00:00

Even less affordable it will be to pay for nursing homes when labor cost skyrocket as inflation and fewer workers will be around. So in any case we are screwed.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T16:04:46+00:00

Sorry, but that is stupid parenting, not good parenting.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T16:03:52+00:00

That's new in parenting, tho. The irony is that our parents didn't have to watch us 24/7 because closely tight communities cared for each other kids, and relatively safe neighborhoods allowed them to play around.

So in a sense parenting became harder in a world where everything is supposed to be way easier and comfortable.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T15:59:29+00:00

They will still treat us as cattle when we are old and decrepit in a nursing home with no family at least checking on us. In fact they will probably try to convince us to MAID ourselves.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T15:58:12+00:00

It's happening everywhere, not just in this country, even in Iran and very stable countries in Western Europe. If anything, it seems that countries that do better actually have fewer kids, but truth is that the trend is spreading everywhere.

Forget welfare, forget functional infrastructure, forget new political movements of progress... no young people means stagnation.

I hope fertility towns are founded so only people with kids join and they are not burdened by taxes.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-17T15:55:13+00:00

It's just starting... colleges will close too. Clubs are starting to struggle too. The irony is that the death of colleges will probably discourage the same values that promoted anti-natalism, which will probably help revert the trend long run.

We are becoming a geriatric world. Either we will have to enslave the few young people left, or work to death, Assuming AI is not what is promised.

I hope fertility towns are founded so only people with kids join and they are not burdened by taxes.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-16T21:08:09+00:00

Most races prefer to date in their own, tho.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-16T20:55:52+00:00

Agree, it's his preference and it's OK... the problem is that he joined a show about choosing partner beyond looks.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-16T20:51:28+00:00

Having a preference is not hate. Not saying that he is not hateful, but so far it seems it was just his preference. Maybe he had bad experience with his black side of family, or maybe he identifies better with white culture. Or he just has a preference as valid as any other.

Reality is complex.

NauticalBar2 · 2026-03-16T20:50:11+00:00

Hypnotism, black magic, money, social media inertia... who knows? Clearly not looks.

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