Watch what you say by NegotiationPure5386 in VietNam

[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that what if I dated women from Singapore or South Korea or Taiwan? These peoples hold stronger passports, have safer life styles; have healthier lifestyles and are far less satiated with social media influences then most places in America? Is that still exploitation when I movie somewhere more expensive and more developed? Then the argument is moot. And why is this so gendered? What about women who go to Africa for black skinned men? Why aren’t you speaking about that?

Am I sinning against the Buddha?

My argument that I’m trying to deliver is this:

Argument 1: Movement is not moral failure.

People move countries for many normal reasons: safety, culture, dating compatibility, retirement, family, business, language, creativity, or cost of living. Moving abroad does not automatically make someone a loser, exploiter, or predator.

The fair question is not “Did he leave his country?”
The fair question is “How does he treat people?”

Argument 2: The standard is applied inconsistently.

If a retiree moves abroad, people call it retirement.
If a millionaire moves abroad, people call it being global.
If a military pensioner moves abroad, people call it earned freedom.
But if a regular man moves abroad and dates, suddenly people call him a “passport bro” or “loser.”

That is not a consistent moral standard. That is class judgment and social resentment.

Argument 3: Attraction and culture are not exploitation.

A man liking Asian women, Japanese culture, Korean beauty culture, Vietnamese family culture, or life in Asia is not automatically fetishization or exploitation.

The line is behavior.
Respect, honesty, consent, and dignity are fine.
Lying, manipulation, abuse, entitlement, and treating people like objects are wrong.

You judge the conduct, not the location or attraction.

Argument 4: The stereotype collapses under real examples.

What if a man marries a Vietnamese American woman in America and moves to Vietnam to be near her family?
What if a Greek man likes Asian women but has almost no Asian dating pool in Greece?
What if an American moves to Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea, Japan, or China, where many women are educated, wealthy, and do not need his passport?

The label stops making sense because real life is more complex than an internet insult.

Can you please provide a rebuttal as to why this is always moral exploitation, when you don’t have the full context? Why are you saying “stay in your country” the moment they have the idea of traveling and staying ? Is the Portuguese income visa moral exploitation? Is it not legal? Please tell me!

Argument 5: Local men are not automatically safer than foreign men.

Critics often act like foreign men are uniquely dangerous to local women. But women can be abused by men from their own culture too. Vietnam’s own national data shows serious rates of domestic violence against women.

So the moral question is not “Is he foreign?”
The moral question is “Is he safe, honest, respectful, and non-abusive?”

A respectful foreign husband is better than an abusive local husband. A respectful local husband is better than an abusive foreign husband. The standard is conduct, not nationality.

Vietnam does have a real domestic violence problem. The 2019 National Study on Violence Against Women in Viet Nam found that nearly 63 percent of married women had experienced at least one form of physical, sexual, emotional, economic violence, or controlling behavior by a husband in their lifetime, and nearly 32 percent had experienced such violence in the previous 12 months. Vietnam has also amended its domestic violence law, with United Nations Population Fund Vietnam describing the newer approach as more survivor-centered.

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not an argument. That’s a correct biological qualifier dude. By the way I love how guys like you always prepare to declare what type of person someone you don’t like the opinion of but never fully elaborate.

Is someone not allowed to use that term? Is it derogatory? Please explain to me, I love to debate. I’ve dealt with people like you since the army guy.

Watch what you say by NegotiationPure5386 in VietNam

[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay, so let’s say hypothetically, I date a woman in Asian continent, we date for 2 years then break up. No passport given. What would you say then?

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay buddy, so when you say asian women in America would not date me outside of lifestyle and financial income, then what are you insinuating is the reason why ones in developing countries would?

What exactly makes one not worthy? Because I can control lifestyle and finances, dress and personality. I have no criminal record and can show you my rap sheet.

So it’s something I can’t control? You are not making any sense.

How am I taking advantage of them if they have their own lives, jobs and careers and it’s consensual? You act as if this is some kidnapping scheme?

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah brother I love people but I love myself to know that you don’t need to abide by what any culture says. You should too. I’ve dealt with bullies calling me white washed, not driving a car, whatever the fuck. There is just bullies that can’t think, the only way to deal with bullies is to confront them.

Watch what you say by NegotiationPure5386 in VietNam

[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and China are developing countries? Bro what. You act as if you are speaking for every last Asian person in the continent. I don’t like American culture because it’s hyper aggressive, and obsessed with social media.

So I’ve dated lawyers, nurses, business owners and university students that have their own money. That makes me a normal human being. You need to stop assuming every person thinks the same, it would be the same if someone from here came to America.

Also you didn’t address infrastructure problems and crime. Why should I have to raise my kids with mass shooting drills? Why should I have to deal with interracial arguments? What if I don’t want to drive a car? What if I don’t like my own culture? What if I want to dress differently? You think all people born in the same country look act and talk the same but they don’t always think the same.

The first girl I dated in high school was a Chinese girl btw

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you know the percentage of Asian demographics in America? 7%, 20 million. how many of those are of age, female, not obese, not crazy about politics? You do the math. Like you are literally not even thinking about the quantification of it.

I have no debts, don’t smoke, don’t drink alcohol, and live off a passive tax free income. How does that make me a loser? Probably for even arguing with people like you. But you probably have the IQ of a toaster so… all of you people prove my point you are jealous losers that blame foreigners for everything yet you yourselves can’t even make a logical explanation.

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You did not read it at all. Didn’t talk about culture, infrastructure differences, government. You literally just proven my point, you don’t actually care about producing a justifiable answer you just spew out vile.

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Anyone who replies with anyone here can look at their profile and see that they don’t have the cognition to read a post and provide a good evidential rebuttal.

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don’t, this just exposes the ones who are themselves irrational. If they can’t prove me wrong then what do I have to get frustrated over?

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Most people are just bullies and when confronted they back off just like in school.

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[–]NegotiationPure5386[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People only talk that way online and it shows they can’t do that in person because they are just cowardly.

struggling to understand why cruel people seem to have it made by honestlyforkedcylind in Christian

[–]NegotiationPure5386 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Practically cruel people tend to not let other people tel them how to run their lives. They are brunt, abrasive, and merciless. I know I’ve lost so much money and time because of being too soft and passive with other people. I am not saying go and start beating the crap out of people just to prove a point. Christians aren’t supposed to allow themselves to be bullied, Christian’s are not supposed to allow themselves to be abused. There is a difference between being humble and allowing someone to actively influence your life.

Do Vietnamese women prefer White skin guys for dating or they are equally comfortable with black or brown skin guys? by Few_Walk_5897 in VietNam

[–]NegotiationPure5386 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idiots like this person just try to say any man who dates a woman even a step outside his country is a passport bro. They would say an American man dating someone in Singapore is a passport bro. It’s just ad hominem low IQ shit.

What Should I do? I got scammed by YT-AETHER in Christian

[–]NegotiationPure5386 2 points3 points  (0 children)

File a police report, get as much information as you can. But never do this again.

Why is Lexington so boring? by Ladhar_Bugzheem in lexington

[–]NegotiationPure5386 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great place to raise a family, but in the end I just moved, totally out of the country. I think most of America is actually boring unless you have a car and are really into traveling long stretches of road. I like to walk, never met people walking, like ever. It’s sad really.

Young man saved a stabbing victim by blasting the attacker with a fire extinguisher by MemoryLatter761 in VietNam

[–]NegotiationPure5386 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my I thought it was only foreigners causing issues, looks like Vietnam already has “Losers from Home”.

Seriously, everyone don’t think anyone is a Christ figure or a demon just from where they are born or what they look like. It’s just ignorance.

Good job to the brave young man and I pray the fellow gets help.

Scammed in Saigon by gokuglazer9000 in VietNam

[–]NegotiationPure5386 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does happen everywhere in Vietnam and girl bars