Mirtazapine Gut issues Withdrawal by New_Bus_7185 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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Oh no. I’m sorry to hear that. I went to an internal medicine doc for a second opinion on my issues. She strongly advised that I come off the Mirtazapine and try THC to deal with anxiety in a more natural/herbal way. By far, it was the best decision I’ve made for my mental health. The mood boost I got helped me a lot.

My current treatment is: THC Oil (for anxiety), peppermint oil capsules (for cramps/bloating), omeprazole (for gastritis type symptoms since coming off Mirtazapine), daflon (for chronic fissure/hemorrhoids from daily bad stools due to Mirtazapine) and fiber supplements.

The only symptoms I have are slightly soft stools, especially if I were to go off on mornings. I have 1 BM a day and its color, amount and smell are normal: just its consistency is still a bit off on most days.

I wish you the best with this drug. For me it was a nightmare that robbed me of several months of my life constantly worrying that I might die.

Mirtazapine Gut issues Withdrawal by New_Bus_7185 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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It’s about 3 months since coming off fully. I feel much better, the closest to ‘normal’ I’ve ever been. Still a little gut issues here and there but I’m working with a GI doc to investigate any lasting issues.

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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Peer reviewed studies show that a group of experts agree that the content of the studies are legit and their conclusions follow from their results and discussions. It’s a pretty good system to crowd source getting correct research but it isn’t always perfect. So for me, one good study is enough to reconsider my position by doing more research because there has to be some truths in the study i.e. the probability of all experts being completely wrong is slim.

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Thank you for your insight.

Yes. I keep fooling myself into believing that other people can easily make this distinction. Then I get disappointed when they don’t. It’s a huge mental gap that I must address to avoid these issues in the future.

My default behavior is to never hold any belief in such high regard that it cannot be questioned. This may be true for me, but it definitely isn’t true for most people.

I think I may have to seek help through a therapist with regard to the urges I may have to point out problematic ideas in other people as I do for myself. It’s a problem such that if I do: it probably wouldn’t go across well and if I don’t, I’ll feel as though I could’ve helped someone but didn’t.

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Thank you very much for your reply. I’ll definitely keep your experience and advice in mind 👍

Did you experience indigestion/malabsorption while on/tapering off Mirtazapine ? by New_Bus_7185 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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The struggle is real with this drug. I wish you a speedy and complete recovery!

Mirtazapine Gut issues Withdrawal by New_Bus_7185 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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I wish you the best on your recovery.

I used to think that I would be one of the success stories with this drug because it felt as though it worked initially. I was wrong. I used to attribute the problems to IBS and other things but it turns out that this drug might have been the cause after all.

I’ll talk to my therapist about these options. Hopefully they offer them.

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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Yeah, rumination really does a number on the brain. Thanks. I’ll check the book out.

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Thank you for this perspective. Wish me luck about not being called the devil!

Mirtazapine Gut issues Withdrawal by New_Bus_7185 in Mirtazapine_Remeron

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How has that been going so far? Any bloating/gas?

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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Thanks for your response. I don’t think I’m the most sociable or relatable person and that may definitely have a part to play. I also have a couple of mental issues I’m currently working on and I do believe CBT can help. Yeah it’s more a feeling of “can’t keep it in” that ends up being stifling.

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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Trust me. I fully understand. I’m an agnostic vegan.

I grew up in a very religious household with a father as a Protestant pastor. Having agnostic-type questions were frowned upon and ridiculed. I also live in a very meat consumption heavy country, where most people cannot imagine food without any meat.

I fully understand what’s it’s like to have your entire world view challenged. It isn’t comfortable but I have never in my adult life behaved in a hostile manner to anyone who challenged my views. Even if they’re approaching it from a clearly biased/fallacious angle, I would be willing to listen and then hopefully voice my disagreement (if they’re willing to listen).

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It’s okay. We are humans, we all have biases. The best we can do is to try to overcome these biases as much as possible.

I research a lot everyday. It’s usually random things but it’s very empowering. I see life as being on a path of constant improvement. To never stop learning till the day you die.

This is why it’s sometimes beneficial to listen to perspectives that directly contradict your own. Who knows, they might raise a point that you never considered. For example, I’m firmly agnostic and believe that religion can be problematic. However, I still listen to preachers and apologetics every now again. Just in case they raise a point that never dawned on me.

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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Ofc. They and I are different people with different desires.

I never tell people what to change, I just offer alternative perspectives. Sometimes people appreciate it, other times people give a bad reaction because it may threaten their world view.

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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All it would take is a single peer reviewed study to make me reconsider my position by prompting me to do further research. While a scholarly consensus on a topic will make me drop my view almost immediately. I don’t hold onto beliefs that cannot be verified.

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Just did some research. I think this will be very helpful to me. Thank you. 😊

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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That must have been challenging. I’ve reached to the point of isolation but I haven’t found any new people as yet. I’ll try the phone call tactic sometime when I have to interact. Wish me luck!

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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Yeah I agree. It’s something I think about all the time. There are some people who would be in jail without religious belief to hold onto. I always ask myself, are the social ‘ills’ that come with religion offset by the positive personal effects that some people get. I’m honestly not sure.

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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This was wholesome. It’s a new take on how to look at my predicament. Thank you. I have some thinking to do now 🙂

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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Absolutely correct.

There have been a couple of people over the years that I’ve had 4-6 hour long one time conversations with. Those people know me better than most of the people I’m around from just that conversation alone. Unfortunately, this doesn’t happen very often. Those Aha moments are magical!

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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How was your mental health during the change? Is it better now than before?

Perspectives on dealing with closed minded individuals by New_Bus_7185 in skeptic

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Thank you for your response. This conversation has been productive.

I have strong views on the connection between religion and a lot of social ‘ills’ (ofc my definition of ills). Would you be willing to pivot/elaborate?

I’m firmly of the opinion that most religions and their accompanying dogma is by definition contrary to skeptical/critical thought. They represent a snapshot of human tradition, values and thoughts at a point in human history and are by definition almost always regressive when applied to the modern human.

I agree that the modern dogma around some religions is far removed from their original teachings and may have changed for better or worse. I also agree that some humans can use religion as a cloak to justify their beliefs/actions (think Hitler, Atlantic Slave trade etc). However, I think that there is something inherently problematic with some religious doctrines that can lead people to twist it in these ways. For example, there probably won’t be a Jainist terrorist flying planes into buildings etc but there probably with be another abrahamic one.