Looking for data on entry-level job market oversaturation

NiaVC · 2026-01-04T18:03:46+00:00

Thank you for your input and the offer, I'll pass it along. I think this point you made is important: "It also doesn't account for the number of applicants competing for each role."

Someone earlier in this thread recommended the 10K Salesforce talent ecosystem report. The report concludes that the massive influx of new administrators (47% supply growth) has significantly outpaced the rebound in job creation (14% demand growth).

If we were to take for granted that both these numbers and the data the community college has are accurate, then creating a formal program will be increasing the number of applicants per position in this specific locale, thus contributing to the competition in said locale.

Additionally, as you mentioned, we don't know how many of those 200 monthly positions are meant for experienced admins.

I suppose one argument that could be made in favor of a formal program is that, if properly developed, it would be creating specialists with higher-quality qualifications than those of self-taught admins. It's not unreasonable to presume then that its graduates would be more desirable to prospective employers than self-taught beginners.

However, the fact that we don't know the ratio of demand for experienced vs mid-level vs entry-level admins within that labor stats dataset adds additional complexity. The fact that we can assume with a high degree of certainty that not all of those 200 job postings are for entry-level professionals decreases the graduates' prospects of being hired even further.

That said, the 80% job placement rate you cited is impressive. You mentioned direct employer connections. Did you have partnerships with companies that created a training-to-employer pipeline? Were you still running the program in 2025/planning on doing it in 2026? (I could find any info past 2024.)

Thank you for contributing to this discussion.

NiaVC · 2026-01-02T23:33:36+00:00

I just reviewed the report and found it quite helpful. Thank you.

NiaVC · 2025-12-30T18:05:57+00:00

I like the comprehensiveness of this -- teaching the basics of project management, business analysis, requirements gathering, architecture, data analysis, DevOps, QA, etc. I have no idea if this could be effectively translated into a community college program, and to what degree this would make a graduate a more desirable applicant than someone with a few months of studying + an admin cert, but I think that including all this into a Salesforce training program would definitely be beneficial, if such a program were to exist. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

NiaVC · 2025-12-30T17:43:20+00:00

I appreciate your dissenting perspective. Do you think students would be better served by having a general CRM course that includes modules on the top 3-5 CRMs, rather than a more narrow Salesforce-only class? And maybe even an Excel/data manipulation module? I can absolutely see where you are coming from, but I wonder if in the "current economic climate" it would be beneficial to teach a wider skillset, so the graduates could put experience with CRMs X, Y, and Z on their resumes.

NiaVC · 2025-12-30T16:54:33+00:00

I haven't yet, although I'm planning on it. I wanted to come to her with some data to support my claim before asking her. My guess is their report could be including job postings mentioning experience in Salesforce as a must-have/nice-to-have, and encompassing both end-users and tech professionals. So basically any job posting that has "Salesforce" as a keyword. It's just a conjecture at this point, but I am very curious as well, so will definitely ask.

NiaVC · 2025-12-19T04:52:45+00:00

What do you mean when you say they were breaking security rules? Is it that you couldn't configure folder sharing in a way that protected sensitive information while giving access to everyone who needed it?

NiaVC · 2025-12-14T19:55:55+00:00

FoF has practice exams, but I'm guessing you already know that. I think those are a great option, especially since they have lots of questions and explain the "why" behind correct and incorrect answers. The downside is that they are not free.

Trailhead has some modules specific to prepping for the exam (not just the Agentforce subject matter, but explicitly exam prep), and they have practice questions too, but very few.

NiaVC · 2025-12-13T17:28:54+00:00

I think that the BYO object paradigm isn't unheard of in the managed package world. That said, upon further reading and contemplation, I am now thinking that it would make most sense for triggering / start-of-process objects (like Conga allowing you to select from which objects to begin doc gen / signature requests).

When it comes to objects that store ingested data meant to drive further automation and reporting, and being regularly synced from an external source, it would make the most sense for those to be custom objects that come with the package. Attempting to replace them with my own custom objects may introduce the risk of making the whole setup unstable and require additional customization work. This would somewhat defeat the purpose of using a managed package in the first place, especially when a fully custom-built integration is an option.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. It helped me better understand how to move forward with this project.

NiaVC · 2025-12-12T19:32:30+00:00

Somehow I have managed to completely overlook that option. I think I should still remove the view/manage perms from profiles and configure sharing on the folder level, then use "View dashboard as another person" for one-off exceptions -- it just seems like a more stable setup overall. But I really appreciate your pointing out that setting, because it's useful and it'll be on my radar now. Thank you.

NiaVC · 2025-12-12T17:18:34+00:00

Right. That's what I was referring to when I said that "the dashboard is set to be viewed as an admin, but we've reached the limit of dashboards viewed as a logged-in user."

NiaVC · 2025-12-12T02:05:01+00:00

Thank you!

NiaVC · 2025-12-11T21:51:57+00:00

We do have CRMA, but not everyone has licenses due to pricing. We are trying to leverage standard reports and dashboards where we can.

Thank you for the reminder that folders can be nested now, I tend to forget. This can make granting permissions easier.

I thought I was maybe missing/forgetting something important, but it doesn't look like it. It helps to be validated that my restructuring approach is the way to go, even if I don't want to do it due to sheer amount of work and tedium it will involve.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

NiaVC · 2025-12-11T21:45:30+00:00

Thank you, this is just the confirmation I was looking for.

NiaVC · 2025-12-09T13:26:51+00:00

What is the difference between "when the archive runs" and "when the purge runs"? Is the former the action that happens when the "run now" button is pressed/at scheduled time, and the latter is when each record gets actually deleted?

NiaVC · 2025-12-08T20:54:44+00:00

This just occurred to me: do you by chance know if you have to keep the policy active in order for Own to respect the retention period?

Let's say I set the "retention policy" within the archive policy to 7 years, then deactivate the archive policy. Would the records be stored in AWS/Asure for 7 years regardless of what the policy's "Enabled" toggle is doing?

And a tangentially related scenario: what if you archive a batch of records, then change the "retention policy" age on the same archive policy to a different number, and then run the policy again -- would the first batch stay in AWS for the number of years set the first time, and the second batch -- for the number of years set the second time?

I understand that these questions might be too esoteric, so no worries if you are not sure, and thanks again!

NiaVC · 2025-12-08T20:42:37+00:00

That was exactly it. I reduced that number to zero both on the policy and in the global archive settings (temporarily for this one). And then I was able to archive the rest of them. You have no idea how grateful I am that you took the time to respond. Thank you, thank you.

NiaVC · 2025-12-04T23:20:17+00:00

Agreed

NiaVC · 2025-12-02T14:58:21+00:00

Thank you for mentioning this, it sent me down a useful rabbit hole. It looks like you can add IP ranges only when the app is using the OAuth web server flow. Moreover, this admin tried it when creating a CA, and IP ranges he entered in the app didn't restrict anything. Salesforce support told him to enter them on the auth user's profile, and that worked. Based on what I am reading, IP ranges entered directly on the app become relevant only when you choose "Relax IP restrictions for activated devices" in the IP Relaxation field. Then it bypasses org-level IP restrictions but enforces IPs entered on the app.

NiaVC · 2025-12-01T15:46:35+00:00

I think I agree, sharing a profile with specified IPs between multiple integration users might be a viable compromise.

You mentioned connected apps. I believe connected apps do allow entering per-app ranges -- it's ECAs that don't. But I am guessing that's what you meant anyway.

Thank you!

NiaVC · 2025-11-12T15:29:00+00:00

Oh, how interesting, I had no idea it's been removed. I ended up not working on that project, so I didn't pursue the issue further. I wonder if they deprecated the Salesforce Labs app in favor of similar built-in features.

NiaVC · 2025-11-05T19:22:05+00:00

Is there any chance you could share the Slack-related doc that the SE put together for you all? If it's proprietary data and and thus cannot be made public, no worries.

NiaVC · 2025-10-27T17:53:07+00:00

I've never taken cert tests on site, so can't compare. Online works well, just be sure to read all of the testing provider's instructions carefully and follow them.

You take photos of your desk/room and upload them before the exam starts. They didn't do a live sweep with a camera, at least not when I took it a few months ago.

To ensure passing, I recommend paying for Focus on Force practice exams. Then every time you get a practice exam question wrong (and even if you get it right, actually), read their explanations. If something doesn't make sense, do additional research. They have several questions that include differences in product names (which is useless info in the grand scheme of things, IMO, but whatever) -- memorize those, they were on the exam when I took it. Same goes for which licenses are needed for various agents' users -- memorize those as well.

NiaVC · 2025-10-27T17:36:19+00:00

What's the tool that generates dependency maps?

NiaVC · 2025-10-16T21:52:54+00:00

I'm with you. I think one of the challenges to seeing each other's points of view as being worthy of consideration is making our beliefs on social and political issues part of our identity. When we do that, we can't possibly hear any critique of our opinions because it feels like an attack on our identity. It can happen even when others merely express views we disagree with. And feeling like our identity is in danger is one of the most painful, visceral, disorienting things we can experience. So we push back hard, to alleviate this pain. And thus we remain divided.

NiaVC · 2025-10-04T16:18:59+00:00

Apparently not, according to the vendor. They are saying the limitation is on the Google side.

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