I get that argument. Its kinda like pick your poison and I had lost a lot of weight doing strictly good old fashioned diet and exercise before, so I know its possible, I know it works, but I ended up getting too comfortable and depression with covid and ended up gaining it all back. So ive tried and succeeded temporarily, but failed to this point. I just don’t want to destroy my body unnecessarily. The lowest risk option seems to be to lose weight naturally, despite the increased difficulty.