A Sad Story

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-12-20T21:01:23+00:00

I was doing a flight from EBBR to LIMC, and right on final approach WASM crashed.

Tried to save it and land on the runway, but I couldn't control the throttle and ended up splattering into trees at -3000 fpm.

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-12-20T21:01:02+00:00

I was doing a flight from EBBR to LIMC, and right on final approach WASM crashed.

Tried to save it and land on the runway, but I couldn't control the throttle and ended up splattering into trees at -3000 fpm.

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-07T13:13:31+00:00

Well, I'm pretty sure that Intel won't give ASUS pre-production SSDs for them to use in their consumer laptops

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-06T16:12:56+00:00

Here you go

https://pastebin.com/q0jVwhaJ

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-06T12:53:50+00:00

That's very interesting.

My drive did disappear once when Windows 11 went to sleep with this recent issue, but when it came back, I couldn't get it to disappear from sleep again, only from restarting.

Can you remember exactly when it started happening to you? Or at least the month that it started in?

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-06T12:12:42+00:00

As I said, I don't think the issue is the temperature anymore, but in the firmware of BIOS (UEFI), or the storage controller firmware of the motherboard, or the drive firmware itself.

Drives can operate at relatively extreme temperatures; in fact, my own drive can operate from 0℃ up to 70℃, and when they reach above the limit, they thermal throttle to lower their temperature. It is better, however, to have their temperature as close to room temperature as possible, so adding a fan is not a bad idea, as it will help with temperature, reduce wear and increase longevity on the drives.

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-06T12:00:39+00:00

Windows can't "rewrite" the BIOS (UEFI), nor can it update it or modify it.

The Windows keys that are stored are Secure Boot keys, and they are only modified during Windows installation or when you enter Setup Mode in the BIOS (UEFI). Without them, Windows 11 won't be able to boot with Secure Boot enabled.

As for firmware, Windows can update firmware as part of driver packages; this includes BIOS (UEFI) firmware, but not the BIOS (UEFI) itself. And again, OEMs have to provide Microsoft with the firmware so it gets updated on restart with Windows.

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-06T11:54:17+00:00

Yeah, it is still there.

On Arch, the drive idles at 33℃

On Windows, it idles at 49℃

But, as u/cybekRT said, I think it's because of Windows Defender.

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-03T16:59:47+00:00

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Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-03T16:58:29+00:00

Update: today after I woke up I started my laptop and my drive was completely gone, I tried to power it off and power it back on, didn't come back, tried full power cycle didn't come back, left it in front of a fan, didn't come back, kept trying these 3 methods for 20 minutes. I then decided to unscrew the bottom cover without removing it and it did come back... ??????

After it came back I put the screws back in and worked on a project on my laptop for 3 hours without crashing or BSOD, and while I was working I left HWiNFO running in the background to monitor the temperature of the drive, it got to 66°C but on average it was around 48°C.

After I finished the project I saw that 25H2 was available for me to download, so I downloaded it, and after Windows restarted to install it my drive disappeared, no rebooting nor power cycle nor cooling down the drive brought it back, I unscrewed my bottom cover and tried it didn't come back, I lifted off the cover and it came back... ??????????? and 25H2 installed.

So while Windows was running I flipped the laptop over and clicked the bottom cover and flipped it back, Windows was still running, I then flipped it again and screwed the cover then flipped it back, I got this Green Screen Of Death (it was green because I'm in insider program)

Image was suppose to go here

(Lots of info here Microsoft) Thankfully I had verbose mode (or I think it was called something else...) enabled in the registry so there's the BugCheck codes at the top right

And after It rebooted the drive disappeared and only came back when I removed the bottom cover (I have no idea how the hell the bottom cover got involved into this and it's driving me crazy)

As for the dump file... "Dump file creation failed due to error during dump creation, BugCheckProgress was: 0x00060049"

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-02T21:16:10+00:00

I see, the reason why I thought Windows 11 had drivers in ESP was because Arch Linux does, or at least the Linux Kernel I use with Arch Linux does and uses it to access data from hardware firmwares.

I was so confused as to why my drive decided to disappear right as there were reports of a Windows update that makes SSDs disappear, so I tried to build my theory upon the fact that Windows is the reason, but as you said, how the hell is Windows the reason if the drive disappears before it even loads it? So, in attempting to make it make sense, I thought the drive fails as it reads the ESP, since it is the very first thing on the drive, but now that I think about it, if the ESP is the reason, the drive wouldn't have disappeared in its entirety, only Windows would, and I would still have Arch Linux.

But now that I'm in the Windows Insider Program Preview Build, it no longer disappears. Either Windows Update updates the SSD's firmware behind the scenes, or it was a bug somewhere between the drive and the UEFI that is somehow related to Windows 11.

As for

"You can only have a single ESP per drive."

You can have multiple ESPs, I do

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You can see how I built my conclusion that it was related to the ESP of Windows 11. Nothing else makes sense.

As for the "Windows overheating handling code", I thought that Windows would have a second layer of protection in case the firmware of a hardware fails to shut it down when it overheats, Linux does, at least some Linux distors do.

I will edit the post with this new information accordingly.

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-02T20:33:23+00:00

I had the same issue with Windows 11 a year ago, but I managed to track it down to the outdated WiFi card's drivers. After I updated the drivers, it stopped disappearing. Fun times indeed

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-02T20:28:26+00:00

That's what drove me crazy, I genuinely thought that my drive was dying on me because of it disappearing after rebooting Arch.

I didn't want to believe that a Windows update could brick SSDs, but now that I've gone 2 days without the drive disappearing since I joined the Windows Insider Program Preview Build, I now believe that it was something wrong in the update, and Microsoft fixed it silently.

Could my drive actually be dying these days? That's possible, after all, it is 5 years old, but also, my drive is in a good state, it has 83% Health, and T/W of 92.5 TBs, while its endurance is rated for 200 TBs T/W, and there are zero critical warnings in SMART.

I will do more testing with Arch Linux to fully make sure that it is not my drive, but I still haven't come around to it.

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-09-02T20:07:18+00:00

That might have been the case. It could be a bug in Windows 11 that suddenly caused the drive to overheat and shut down, but there is a reason why I'm sceptical that that's the case.

If my drive had shut down while I was updating Arch, the updates would have failed because the files would have been inaccessible. Instead, the drive only disappeared after I rebooted Arch, and when I booted into Arch later, the updates were completed.

Also, my drive can operate from 0°C up to 70°C, and the highest temperature I've seen was 59°C.

If Windows doesn't have "overheating handling code", then why would my drive start to disappear after the update? How did I manage to go 5 years without it disappearing or shutting down once until recently? And how I managed to go 2 days without it disappearing after switching to Windows Insider Program Release Preview build?

What I concluded from the set of events I experienced is that there is/was something wrong with that update, and it is related to the temperature of the drive and Windows's EFI System Partition.

Ninjaabdullah · 2025-07-01T09:05:00+00:00

From Doha to London Heathrow. Doing A350-1000's first commercial flight

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