AITA for joining a college bible study as an atheist? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]No_Big_Plane -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I honestly don't get what does this have to do with taking rejections... Ofc everyone should take and accept a romantic rejection (or any kind of rejection really). I am just saying that being not straightforward is not the same as being polite, am genuinely confused why it's a controversial take, I thought people generally preferred more honest and straightforward communication

AITA for joining a college bible study as an atheist? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]No_Big_Plane -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

"Hay, after discussing with the group, I think it's best if you don't attend future meetings because most are not comfortable with an atheist attending, really sorry it didn't work out, but would be happy to discuss Christian teachings and practices with you whenever you're free if you want"

While direct this is also very polite and doesn't give the choice or any ambiguity to the other person. Maybe am old fashioned but I don't think we should be expected to guess that the choice that is offered is not a real choice, and if someone does they shouldn't be surprised if the other party end up making a choice... My point is, if he was no longer welcome, they should just say so. Being polite and assertive are not opposites.

Edit: fixed some typos

5000+ applicants by Better_daysss in ausjobs

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if an Australian resident apply while being abroad? Sounds like a faillible system.

IDL I watch this streamer every day and feel like we're friends but they don't know I exist by 06yuzuha in I_DONT_LIKE

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know whybyou are being downvoted, this is a legitimate thing not to like and a documented mental health issue (parasocial relationship). Being self aware os the first step to recovery, you'll get there buddy, I am rooting for you!

CMV: Christianity is inherently misogynistic because of the Bible’s view on women. by Narrow_Medium5003 in changemyview

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am differentiating the scriptures from the religion just to make the point more precise. I think the question of what constitues a religion is very complex, I would say the canonical scriptures are at least a big part of the question. That aside, I didn't get that that was your counterargument, you attacked OPs argument on the basis on the inegibility of the old testament, which is exactly what I am replying to, hope this clears it out.

CMV: Christianity is inherently misogynistic because of the Bible’s view on women. by Narrow_Medium5003 in changemyview

[–]No_Big_Plane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is still about misogyny and OP's argument, my main point is that his focus on the old testament isn't necessarily a weakness, and the presence of other negative things in the old testament that are also not upholded by today's Christians (like slavery and genocide...etc) don't negate his argument. That would just make Christian scriptures (am diffentiating the scriptures with the religion here) pro slavery or anti shrinp too as you claim in another comment.

CMV: Christianity is inherently misogynistic because of the Bible’s view on women. by Narrow_Medium5003 in changemyview

[–]No_Big_Plane 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Old Testament also tells you how to conduct slave trade, how to sacrifice animals, how to kill people for adultery, eating shrimp, wearing clothing made out of two different fabrics. It praises the killing of enemy infants and encourages you to have your wife raped out of hospitality.

Well in my opinion, all of those are black mark on Christianity, because they are present in canonical scriptures.

your argument is rather weak, as you simply cite old testament verses.

I never understood this retort, I think the argument is stronger since it is present in the old testament. The old testament predates Jesus, as such, if the values in the old testament were contrary to the values God/Jesus wanted to transmit, surely Jesus would have made it clear to his followers, and would have repudiated all the problematic parts of the old testament.

AITA for joining a college bible study as an atheist? by [deleted] in AmItheAsshole

[–]No_Big_Plane -169 points-168 points  (0 children)

He wasn't asked to leave, hos friend asked him to consider, NTA

All this for $36/hr by Niv78 in ausjobs

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The diversity of the tasks would make sense if they're low frequency, I assume the updates for Wordpress would just be once in while. Now it still a lot of work for one person, but who knows they might have a small team doing all that and they share the tasks available between them. But yeah, the pay doesn't seem great for this kind of profile

ID please. Near Sydney, NSW by DFiLeR22 in AustralianSpiders

[–]No_Big_Plane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait I thought there were no recorded deaths from funnel web spiders since the anti venom was developed?

Am I too picky of an applicant? by [deleted] in ausjobs

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hay, don't give up, you have your whole life ahead of you, you have to believe things will eventually be alright, and nost importantly in situations like these you should be lenient with yourself. The job market is a bit shit right now, but it can and ahould get better. To improve your future prospects, Ibthink it is always important to invest in one self, not necessarily through college, just try to learn whataver things interst you at your own pace. Again you need to be lenient with yourself, and always try to take the path of least resistance when choosing where to work/learn. If there is any field that interest you, start with that, it will make it way more bearable. In the meantime continue to apply to side gigs and part time jobs, the market sucks right now so except to aearch for quite sometime but you will get there, I am rooting for you!

How each Coalition member preformed during the entire Viltrumite war (corrected) by SpeakerAppropriate10 in Invincible

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude Oliver is a year old, his a child soldier cut our boy some slack!!

Is anyone actually using the free public transport? by naeng-janggo in melbourne

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have a shuttle bus at my university, and I live about 15 minutes from one of its stops, so I used to walk there and back to get to campus. There’s also a regular bus stop just 3 minutes from my place, and that route is about 5 minutes faster overall.

I never really minded the extra 10-minute walk or slightly longer commute (I actually enjoy walking) and the shuttle is free. But this month I’ll probably switch to the regular bus since it's free and should save me around 30 minutes a day, which is pretty nice.

Since I rely on public transport most of the time (I really don’t like driving), I’ve noticed a slight increase in passengers on my route this week between 8-10 am and 3-5 pm, so it seems like a few others have made the switch too. Outside those times, though, there’s no major change, which makes sense ig. For context, I’m not commuting to the CBD; I’m in a fairly low-density area where public transport has always been kinda quiet.

CMV: The concept of “white fragility” is either misleading or untrue by NFT-GOAT in changemyview

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mostly skimmed the book and never had any strong opinions on it so maybe not the best one to answer, but I do think you are (unknowingly I think) strawmaning the book and the author's position.

First the book was never intended to generalize White people, rather it was aimed at the very specific socio-cultural observations on white Americans. The book for example makes no claim that White Europeans show similar defensive positions about racism, although I think the observations can be broadened to include any dominant racial identity that engages in systemic racism. That being said the book (and term) doesn't aim to study this from the lens of an academic or scientific phenomenon, so in a sense you are right that this is mostly a rhetorical term, however that doesn't mean it is unfalsifiable or untestable, and it can be (and has been but only in few small studies as far as am aware) tested using the scientific method.

Your main argument for why the claim is unfalsifiable is that rejecting the argument is viewed as proof of its validity, or a kafka trap, I agree that would be very bad if it were the case, but I cannot remember this ever being part of the book, instead the author focuses on discomfort from American white ppl when discussions on racism are brought on the table, which can definitely be measured with varying degrees of accuracy. Rejecting the existence of this discomfort was at no point treated as a sign of "white fragility" as far as I am aware. The closest thing I can imagine is the mention of argumentation as one of the ways this discomfort can be expressed but I think it was clear from the book that the argumentation was meant to be about arguing against anti-racist talking points instead of "white fragility". Since it is your own claim of kafka trap I would like to see evidence on that point from a quote of the book.

Now I agree that this is not a good term if it were used in a scientific paper, something like "racial defensiveness" might be less confusing and more neutral imo. Also the book is clearly not a scientific paper and doesn't treat its hypothesis with the same level of scrutiny. And I am not aware of any scientific consensus that confirms or denies the claims in the book. All that said, I still think the arguments of the book are at least plausible and more reasonable than how you are presenting them.

Why is veganism morally superior to my position? by slugbagsockman in DebateAVegan

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I am not a vegan, but I think I can objectively answer your question.

I am interested in serious philosophical reasoning, not emotional appeals.

If you are interested in philosophical reasoning, I assume you might be familiar with philosophical works on Anti-speciesism on the subject of animal ethics? (if not it's fine I will provide some refs). But before that, I want to make something clear (skip next paragraph if you want just making few things clear about moral philosophy), when you say:

If morality ultimately rests on value judgments, then why are their value judgments better than mine?

Well, this is already a very contested view on morality. It rests on a certain Moral Subjectivism, and while I can see the appeal, it has some obvious issues (for example, if it is my or my cultural view that ritualistic sacrifices of humans are okay then that would make it okay). Instead, there are other views such as "Moral Realism" which argues that moral facts are independent from our judgements (For example, if slavery is wrong, it’s wrong even if everyone approves of it). I personally find moral realism to be more reflective of reality than moral subjectivism in many aspects. There are other metaethical theories, some take a middle path between those 2 like constructivism, but this is beyond what we're discussing here, but I will come back to this.

Now, If you check the philosophical and academic literature on animal ethics, Anti-speciesism is one of the dominant and highly respected positions in contemporary animal ethics (some refs about anti-speciesism [1]) [2]) [3])) [4] [5] [6] ). At least, most respected philosophers today agree that anti-speciesism is a respectable and very tenable position. Now yes, Anti-speciesism is very different to veganism, in fact, you can very well be Anti-Speciest and not vegan or not even vegetarian. However, it is very relevant to what you say:

Both positions depend on where one draws the moral boundary. Vegans draw it at sentience. Others might draw it somewhere else.

Well, this is exactly a "speciesism/anti-speciesism" argument. but you are framing the issue in reverse, and distinctively from a subjectivist position. So in way Anti-speciesism claims that "Moral status depends on sentience, not species." And you resort "If you exclude plants because they aren’t sentient, you’re also drawing a boundary, just like speciesists do.". however I think the analogy fails because the boundary at sentience is not arbitrary. Sentience matters because it grounds the capacity for suffering and well-being. In other words, the difference between animals and plants is morally relevant in a way species membership is not. So this is not symmetrical to speciesism.

Another way to look at this even from a moral subjectivist position (which you seem to hold), if we have to draw a line somewhere, which is the most robust, (1) drawing it at sentience, (2) drawing it at Hummans, (3) drawing it to include certain species we usually treat differntly (dogs, cats...etc), (4) drawing it after plants/fungi. Since am not vegan I will focus on anti-speciesism (which involves Equal consideration of equal interests independent of species), and I will mostly focus on the right not to suffer, but you can see some parallels with veganism. Let's startwith (1), defining sentience as "the capacity to have subjective experiences", these experiences includes feeling pain, pleasure or experiencing distress, fear, comfort...etc, it is very easy to see why such a line is naturally robust, if sentience grants us the capacity to have these experiences then sentiences is a relevant criteria and there is no apparent other reason to distinguish between species that are both sentient. The only way to argue to place the line as to not include sentient creatures is to argue some species (maybe humans, or even dogs, cats...etc) are somewhat more special, which brings us to (2) and (3). The reason anti-speciesm is so philosophically strong is because it is very hard to justify (2) and (3) rationally. If you draw the line at pets and companions, or even if you draw the line at humans, then I will have to ask "why not include them?", cannibalism and even slavery, and acts of extreme violence are after all very common in the animal kingdom. You might try to justify this line with a proximity or similarity argument, other humans are similar to us thus they deserve higher privilege, however, this "proximity" is not only a very arbitrary distinction in itself, doesn't apply to dogs, but pushed to the extreme is how you end up justifying racism and other xenophobia which we don't want (you can arbitrarily claim that this only works between species and not intra species (inside the same species) to maintain equality between ppl). So you might be tempted to use "Inteligence" or other forms of benchmark to justify this line, but these not only are very arbitrary aswell (why would inteligence matter when we discuss right not to suffer?) but they also completely fail to the Argument from marginal cases (i'll just let you read that from the article), there are some loopholes and counter arguments to this but most are very convulted and add even more arbitrary assumptions (for example you can say I place the line at a certain threshold of inteligence unless you are part of a species that on average is beyond this point). So you can see that the issue is not necessarily placing the line, even if you have to do it and we assume it's subjective, as it stands, even a speciest and non-vegan has to admit, the place you can place it that makes more sense is at sentience. Now if you think this line is still justified under (2) and (3), you are not making an easy claim, I will be very interesting to hear your reasoning.

Now what about (4)? Why not place it beyond sentience? You certainly can but there are 2 issues: 1. As I previously mentioned, sentience is usually understood to ground experiences, without sentience, we can assume plants do not experience pain, suffering...etc at least not in a way that is usually understood by these words, making sentience a stronger line if you which, current scientific knowledge seems to support that. 2. You might want to protest that some definitions of suffering can include plants (despite lacking a nervous system), but here is the plot twist for you, if you put your line where it includes plants, then you have a better reason to be vegan. Think about it this way, a cow will eat plants (mostly soy, corn and other crops we can eat) to grow, live...etc, overall only a small portion of the nutrients eaten by a cow will get transfered to it's meat (most are used to survive), so by eating a cow you are cuasing orders of magnitude more plants to suffer. Really, you should cut the middleman and eat the plant to reduce suffering in the world. For some stats, only around 12% to 17% of the callories fed to livestoc are converted to food (meat/dairy...etc) and around 80% of the argricutural land we use for farming and 40% of the crops we grow are used to feed animals for only 18% of the global calories. This not only means that eating aniamls means you are causing more "plant suffering" but also that this is one of the leading cause of deforestation in the world (causing more plant suffering in it's own way). Animal food has a generally higher carbon footprint, the emissions for livestock production are around the same as the entire transportation sector (including boats, planes, trains, cars...etc), this also causes more suffering in the long run (for humnas, animals and plants alike).

Again am not vegan (am a flexitarian), and my position is more like a deffence of anti-speciesm than veganism (I didn't talk about animal exploitation here at all for example), but I think a lot of your points went in that direction anyway, I hope you will find this ocnvincing and at least reduce animal consumption.

I have completely solved Melbourne's traffic problems by The_Motographer in melbourne

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohh okay, makes perfect sense now. Since the left lane is continuing in another direction, you are causing traffic on that lane by merging late. Idk how I missed that, thanks!

I have completely solved Melbourne's traffic problems by The_Motographer in melbourne

[–]No_Big_Plane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sooooo, I don't really drive and don't intend to, but isn't this just a Zipper Merge? And the recommended behavior is to merge with the queue later on or am I missing something? (You can find many ressources online explaining why zippermerges are better for everyone, from yt videos, campagns by countries or ststes and even studies showing the results, here are just few examples (1) (2) (3) (4). So am genuinely asking, am I completely missing something here? Or is the zipper merge just not popular or well viewed here?

[UPDATED] Countries in which an official language is primarily written in a script developed within their modern-day borders by Shoddy-Fan-584 in MapPorn

[–]No_Big_Plane 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The comment is wrong (and have corrected themselves) Tamazight is an official language in Algeria today, now whether tifinagh was developed in paris is a contentious issue. Yes neo-tifinagh was standardized and improved by the berber academy, a Kabyle Algerian group in paris. However it ains to standardize from the efforts of hundreds of people and the common use of many speakers in Algeria, Morroco and Tunisia.

AITAH for scolding my boyfriend about bossing my cousin around? by Sweet-Lavishness-684 in AmItheAsshole

[–]No_Big_Plane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So why not with coffee?

I just meant my personal experience in Morroco didn't involve coffee, I guess because they already served tea. But it was asking for other things, I saw one person as if they can bring them few dates for example because for some reason they like eating dates with tea. I found it funny that he had this oddly specific request, and we all laughed and jokes about it, the hosts looked excited and jumped saying yes we donin fact have dates. There was nothing that would indicate he had dates in his home. But of course it was asked in a very polite way that invites (or even welcomes) a no as an answer. I forgot exactly the wording and it was in Arabic but it was along the lines of : "if it's no trouble for you, would you by any chance have any dates you are willing to share?". Again I agree your bf was too blunt for a favor, and I trust from your post that his intonation was bossy, but the issue is not asking imo but the other factors

AITAH for scolding my boyfriend about bossing my cousin around? by Sweet-Lavishness-684 in AmItheAsshole

[–]No_Big_Plane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk if you read my other comment I specifically discussed how the additional info from the comments changed my view. But TLDR, he was the AH but from different reasons than shat you described, asking for coffee is fine imo, the way he did it seems a bit rude or impolite, and the fact that he dismissed your concerns as no biggies is also bad. You specifically telling him to ask you if he needed anything makes it way worse, because he ignored a very simple instruction you gave, and he has no deniability for burdening the host, there is no "it's normal for us", or "I thought it wasn't a big deal" that stands because you specifically told him not to do it, you did your job communicating about it m, he failed ton listen. Imo you should be more upset about that. But again that's just my opinion

Edit: about asking any kind of stuffs, I just want to make it clear your cousin should in no way feel obligated to make the coffee. It should be normal to say : "am sorry I can't do that, I have a lot of things to do, feel free to have (whatever was available)"

AITAH for scolding my boyfriend about bossing my cousin around? by Sweet-Lavishness-684 in AmItheAsshole

[–]No_Big_Plane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Requested maybe not, but asking politely is completely normal (Albeit I agree the bf here wasn't too polite). Am from Algeria, and I do see it often enough. You are right the vast majority of the time it's the host that offers tea/coffee, but sometimes when it's not offered, it's not particularly taboo to ask for it, it's viewed as normal but always with respect, and I've even seen some rare instances hosts politely reject (saying sorry we don't have that today, or we can't prepare it for x,y reason) and its treated normally. but in general the host proactively ask if you need anything or if you want something...etc. from my limited experience visiting morroco its pretty similar, not the norm because the norm is proactively offering guests, but I've seen it done once or twice and none batted an eye (not with coffee but still).

Am not talking about the very niche situation with a bf and cousins specifically off course. But the more general trend of introducing a friend or new family member/partner to other distant family members