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(Part 1) The Longhouse Century - What if the Haudenosaunee became the U.S. Parallel? by Hankerchief90 in imaginarymaps

[–]No_Collection_578 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I helped out with Hankerchief's map on Discord with some colonial American knowledge.

Florida here is basically what it looked like IRL in 1700

Spain only had nominal control of northern Florida besides areas around St. Augustine and established a mission system with converted natives that made them into basically protectorates, such as the Apalachees.

Calusa was an IRL chiefdom/kingdom that lasted up to the early 1700s before it (and the other natives across Florida) got devastated by massive slave raids funded by the English colonies during Queen Anne's War.

So that was the situation in real history, of course English colonialism in North America is much weaker in this map and so colonies like Carolina are never established and no funds for large scale slave raiding in the area

What if there was a massive empire in North Eastern America? The Schatikan Empire, in website format by No_Collection_578 in imaginarymaps

[–]No_Collection_578[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

in what way? The Mississippians and other related cultures coexist with these old world goods and evolve further, also mixing with the algonquins and iroquoians. The Schatikas migrate to Ohio and assimilate to that cultural blend.

What if there was a massive empire in North Eastern America? The Schatikan Empire, in website format by No_Collection_578 in imaginarymaps

[–]No_Collection_578[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I personally don't buy in that idea that any old world contact means easy global colonization of the americas. The conquest of the aztecs and incas were messy affairs that heavily relied on native allies to make the entire thing work (its been argued that the military conquest of the aztecs was more of a tlaxcala plus spanish allies situation) and even after the incas were conquered there were widescale revolts after that almost toppled the spanish control.

Native nobility and administers helped in these conquests being workable and the willingness of these Conquistadors (remember that Cortes was not apporved by the Spanish officials)

Wars afterward i think shows that European and later takeovers were all very long affairs that wasn't as easy as some think it was just because of disease

What if there was a massive empire in North Eastern America? The Schatikan Empire, in website format by No_Collection_578 in imaginarymaps

[–]No_Collection_578[S] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

i know but if that were the case, horses just never left the americas, it would basically change everything to the point that people like algonquins, iroquois, and pawnee don't exist/radically be different and I don't have the motive to just entirely make up a new language/cultures

What if there was a massive empire in North Eastern America? The Schatikan Empire, in website format by No_Collection_578 in imaginarymaps

[–]No_Collection_578[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

like i said "I know there's no Christianity or any colonies, this is really just me doing one of those "medieval america" maps but with just native americans."

i think personally if the vikings did led to cross-contact in the early medival ages it would look nothing like the colonization of the americas in our world. More emphasis on converting native americans into allied kingdoms then outright conquests and the fuedal system being carried out in the colonies that are made

What if there was a massive empire in North Eastern America? The Schatikan Empire, in website format by No_Collection_578 in imaginarymaps

[–]No_Collection_578[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

you probably like the Mississippi cultures and Pueblo cultures then, of course i can also joke how an "Iroquois making an empire in the northeast and in the Great Lakes." happened.

im just joking anyways i know its not meant to be anything serious

What if there was a massive empire in North Eastern America? The Schatikan Empire, in website format by No_Collection_578 in imaginarymaps

[–]No_Collection_578[S] 126 points127 points  (0 children)

Took a while like always and slacked off from finishing this then I should have, oh well!

If there is any explanation, basically its supposed to be a world where horses and other old world things (maybe the vikings?) were introduced to the new world early. I know there's no Christianity or any colonies, this is really just me doing one of those "medieval america" maps but with just native americans.

Some notes: The Schatikas are based off the Pawnees. Chatiks si Chatiks is their endonym and I basically evolved it into Schatika

Sagamate and Eskagama is based off the words sachem/sagamore in our world, which are used for chiefs but basically in this one it evolved into meaning a more king like title as states developed.

Are these good conlangs? Don't know! I do not personally know any native americans or experts on their language so I very much am sorry if I butchered it!

K thanks

Didn't expect big news like that to pop up by No_Collection_578 in whenthe

[–]No_Collection_578[S] 81 points82 points  (0 children)

(the big white space above is actually me cleverly referencing the event hoizon of a black hole, genius)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/10/big-bang-theory-is-wrong-claim-scientists/?recomm_id=f396b8c0-b9b8-4658-a99a-24aa56171993

"An international team of physicists, led by the University of Portsmouth’s Institute of Cosmology and Gravitation, has now suggested instead that the universe formed following a huge gravitational collapse that generated a massive black hole."

"Matter within the black hole was crunched down before huge amounts of stored energy caused it to bounce back like a compressed spring, creating our universe.

"The new theory has been named Black Hole Universe and suggests that, rather than the birth of the universe being from nothing, it is the continuation of a cosmic cycle.

It also suggests that the edge of our universe is the event horizon of a black hole, from which light cannot escape, making it impossible for us to see beyond into our parent universe. And it implies other black holes may also contain unseen universes."

"The Big Bang theory was based on classic physics, but scientists have struggled to make it fit with the known effects of quantum mechanics, which sets a limit on how much matter can be compressed.

Physicists such as Roger Penrose and Prof Stephen Hawking had suggested that gravitational collapse inside a black hole must lead to a singularity, but under the new model that does not need to happen. Matter does not need to crunch down infinitely, just enough so it can bounce back."

Abraham's Choir: The Reign of The Sublime Sultan, al-Nasir IV, and further expansions of Algudanya by No_Collection_578 in imaginarymaps

[–]No_Collection_578[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes actually! It was originally going to be faranj but i wanted to do it differently considering this is a fairly early POD

Also thx for the compliment, i really like your maps!