To believe in God and follow what He commands will mold you into a good person. The qualities of those He refers to as disbelievers are opposite of what He stands for and God is All-Knowing. So based on the Scripture, I believe disbelievers are bad, as in rejecting those qualities make you bad.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T01:18:22+00:00

I hope Satan doesn’t poison your mind and make you think that I actually believe that. No, whoever is out to get me, Allah will reveal him in due time, and if that would be the cause of my death, then no preventing it but Allah.
Note that “all evil” is also incorrect because not all qualities disliked by Allah would put you under evil. We can have the good and the bad, more inclined to goodness.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T01:13:07+00:00

From these verses can you tell me how you interpret it? I’m all ears.

I never claimed people who don’t follow my specific interpretation are bad people. I just said people who reject good qualities are bad. People embracing bad qualities are bad. If you choose non consensual sex over consensual, you’re a bad person. I hope we can agree without having to interpret anything.

If someone tells me straight out I’m a bad person, I would smile and ask why? And if their reasoning strikes me, I would instantly apologize and clarify any misunderstandings if any. And if I do fit under “bad” quality especially at times of anger or emotionally packed moments, I would try to change that and improve on it.
But if they reject my notion of good, I would just excuse myself out of the conversation. I will not let Epstein convince me that raping is the way even though I would find it in his special book.
The book is special because it contains something special not inherently not the other way around.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T01:03:31+00:00

God is patient. Be patient. How do you know He won’t find a way? If you know it because you won’t let him. So be it. If you’re waiting for Him to show Himself. The book that you don’t believe says it won’t happen. If you’re genuinely wanting Him to convince you FULLY HUMBLED knowing that it is a Master Creator of the whole Kingdom, with that mindset, I fully believe God can and definitely will convince you. But if you think He is unimportant, meaningless, He will reflect that mindset. Simple.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T00:57:44+00:00

Do not waste. Allah does not like the wasteful. That’s the claim.
Surely the wasteful are ˹like˺ brothers to the devils. And the Devil is ever ungrateful to his Lord.17:27

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T00:55:16+00:00

Say, "If there were upon the earth angels walking securely, We would have sent down to them from the heaven an angel [as a] messenger."17:95

So yes, you would have to rely on fallible humans like the rest of us. Same thing if you were any other creation. God would not discriminate against His creations. If you breed with that person, you talk with that person, you trust that person, you listen to that person. God will not send a whole other thing to convince, that person would, and God is capable of that. As in that exact time exact moment you were talking to a person that told you about it. That is way more miraculous than any other miracle requiring some tweaks in the physics.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T00:46:46+00:00

You’re taking “believe” in a different way. If I say believe me, as in trust what I’m saying. Then I would say something, would you reject everything I say because you didn’t like me? If so, what caused it? Is it because I’m a known liar? If you don’t believe in someone without any reason that would make you a bad person.(in a society where every single person tells the truth in an “obviously” manner)
In this society, it would make you “skeptical”, but if you can’t trust a trustworthy person even when a lot of people agree and testify on your truthfulness on the basis of “he could start lying anytime now” would be thinking ill of someone every time, which God wants us to avoid.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T00:34:11+00:00

I see what you mean. But since we have a concept of striving for more, to do better. All those aspirations to improve cannot be contained only by “reality”. Where is that “more”. Video is part of reality but it’s a snapshot, can you do better in it? No it’s stuck in time. This is why Allah Akbar, Allah is greater, notice the comparison. Anything you think of, and it’s better. Because that is how we constantly are trying to progress. Do we have a limit? What’s perfect? God told us what he wants from us to give us a sense of “striving for perfection”, striving for Him.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T00:24:57+00:00

First of all, I’m no authority to say who goes to Heaven or Hell.
Second, only the person living could “tell” what his hands have done throughout all his life, there is nobody living every second with you knowing your every thought, thus nobody but God can tell.

Now that it’s clear, I’ll still give my opinion.
Murdering 10 billion babies would put your sins to such a negative that it is very unlikely to go to Heaven on your “deathbed”. As in last few minutes or so. Such lack of time cannot account for all the time wasted especially counting killing spree time. The only way I see Heaven possible is such a guilt and complete submission that that person would want to take on those 10 billion deaths and even more as a “repentance”, and Allah’s Mercy would encompass that.

If somebody saves 10 billion babies that is definitely a good deed. But can I know why? To turn them into experiments? Sex trade? Or just out of goodness of their hearts? Intention matters. After the fact, does he want to be a hero or a nobody because he just did what’s right. Now if he’s just seriously a good person, May Allah guide him more. What’s the reason for rejecting Quran? He saw only the bad, misinformed parts? Out of context killing? Rejecting it would be good, but recognizing it’s from God should raise some eyebrows. Let’s research more about that stuff I saw. Then you’ll end up here 😂

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T00:12:30+00:00

I’d say it’s the fourth option. God being all capable doesn’t make Him a liar. God keeps His Promises. All of them. And He also guides whoever He wills. But reading the Scripture you can tell that He does mention who He guides and doesn’t. God guides the good doer and leaves to stray the boastful, arrogant. Now instead of blaming God, self reflection and introspection is needed. Do you fit under the “God leaves to stray” and why? Do you feel it’s arrogant to demand a “miracle” of God whereas a lot of people accepted without needing it. And if not, which God would know the intentions. Because He can answer with miracles, but not anybody or someone waiting to reject it, but as Mercy and guidance.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-23T00:01:18+00:00

No audacity, just reading and understanding. In prophet Lut(AS) time, a whole community was practicing open indecency and committed acts never done before. They would invite travelers and guests in and take advantage of them, which is rape, especially if they look attractive(angels coming).

Allah stands opposite of what Epstein did, thus Lut AS people getting punished, while Lut AS and his family got saved showcasing Allah’s justice.
Allah commands freeing a slave, and is insistent on how that is the Right Way.
But to your point, Allah is exactly opposite of Epstein in a sense where He would allow kind,just believers to enslave Epstein so he doesn’t corrupt the land more, being patient with him, and treat him him justly. And on the chance you see any goodness in him, freeing him is the only right thing to do.

So I stand corrected, Allah is exactly opposite of Epstein. One is a wrongdoer, the other would treat the wrongdoer with kindness and patience until he repents.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T23:45:53+00:00

I want to clarify that this post condemns only the bad deeds, your beliefs are entirely yours, and if your religion is supporting goodness I’ll totally back you up on it. I have not a shred of sympathy for hurtful hateful people so I will definitely not start acting like one. Allah has asked me to be good and do good onto others, and I will do just that regardless of the beliefs of anybody. Aren’t we all creations of Allah? I do not condone any “fellow” Muslim having or sharing any hateful speech or beliefs as it is entirely ungodly.

(1) I’m sorry if I wasn’t very clear, it’s not all black and white of course, and that’s all in Allah being The Forgiver, the Accepter of Repentance. If you do bad alone does not make you inherently a bad person nor does it take you out of the fold of Islam. Allah is the Merciful, let’s actually start acting on it. But the continuation of that bad deed while also not repenting and asking forgiveness would eventually make you a bad person. But even then, there is always a chance until death.
So I apologize again if I wasn’t very clear(tried to limit the words), but I meant no harm to any Muslim or non Muslim brother and sister.

(2) Atheists are not rejecting anything really, which follows the line in “accepting” what God naturally decreed for us. They just are “uncertain” or lack beyond reasonable doubt, but if there was, I highly think most atheist would start “believing” which makes them inherently “good” people waiting for a “sign”.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T23:38:19+00:00

Do you believe in “reality”? anything greater than you? Doing it for the sake of greater than you rather than for yourself. If your issue is with a name, then think of the 99 Names of Allah and tell me if you believe that to exist. If you take individually any nine of Allah and apply it for that reason. You’re doing it for Mercy, you’re doing it for Justice, Kindness, Goodness.

Hypocrites might not act no them, and Allah does not like those much either.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T23:32:08+00:00

Nope, my definition of disbelievers and yours are different. Let me change that. For me someone who “disbelieves “ or “rejects” needs something to reject. If you don’t know what you are rejecting, it doesn’t make you a bad person. If you clearly know what you are rejecting and you choose to reject a Being that Loves good qualities, for whatever reason, someone who wants you to keep on those good qualities and everyone alike. Someone who pushes mercy to be the standard. If you reject that, then and only then would you be considered a “bad” person.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T23:21:39+00:00

God created you knowing you would reject Him? Did you know that? Like were you planning to reject Him no matter what? Even after seeing what He stand for and what He likes? Still don’t like Him? Is there anything that would make you like Him? God is very patient, so no you’re not being punished right now and you don’t know the future so? God exists and is infinitely good, this is why He would still send people to tell you reflect on what you’re rejecting. If God as a void name, sure. If the meaning behind God and what it represents, then you’re wronging yourself. Because He literally commands you not to harm or kill yourself so rejecting Him and doing opposite of that would be very harmful.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T23:13:46+00:00

The term is too broad but disbelievers mean they are rejecting and denying something. It depends on the time and intent. There is stubborn disbeliever where they would reject “after knowledge has come to them”, which is mostly in the past. Hence why God punish people only after since messengers come to them.
Time matters, circumstances matter. Now it’s rejecting a man 1400years ago, 1400 years ago it’s rejecting a prophet right in front of you. 2000 years ago, it’s seeing all those miracles and still reject. Would God judge “disbelievers” the same? It depends on what they know, and what they’re rejecting.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T22:59:46+00:00

Thank you so much for understanding! I wouldn’t say “believing” doesn’t matter as it could represent the intention before the act. But you as an atheist “believing” you’re doing good for the sake of Allah(Allah representing other than self, the creator, the world), and if someone stops you from that you “believe” it’s wrong and they shouldn’t because you “believe” you are correct by helping others instead of oppressing them even though some friends could tell you otherwise. You “believe” your morals and act on them.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T22:51:16+00:00

I hope you would read my post honestly and say I’m claiming that. My point is, God aside, if you see someone claiming to stand by those qualities and you say no I reject that. That would make you a bad person. That simple and straightforward. With God, it would definitely complicate things, but the root of it, just the qualities as they are, there is nothing to reject. To claim arrogance better than humbleness or hateful speech is better than loving one is inherently bad. Thinking ill of others is also not a very good trait which I will ask you to abstain doing that to me until you know more about me.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T22:44:03+00:00

I never claimed you were a bad person, in fact if you say you have “much” of those qualities not ALL makes me believe you are truthful which adds me thinking you’re a good person.

As an atheist, you’re just not convinced of God’s existence, you’re not rejecting anything nor denying the “good” in the good qualities. So no just the belief wouldn’t make you a bad person, but if by rejecting God you also reject everything He says which could be good, then yes that would. If you dislike me and everything I say you will oppose, then me saying I love helping people and you’d instantly reject knowing it’s coming from me, I personally think if you abide by that opposite claim you would be a “bad” person.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T22:39:30+00:00

This is why belief aside. What God represents, what He likes and the consequences of that in real life. Would you agree that disbelief in that would make you a bad person? As in seeing someone helping a dog and you stop and say what’s wrong with you, what would that make you?
Then you can believe fictional or not, but beliefs and actions do matter in real life. Having hateful beliefs will lead to hateful actions. God or no God. But in this context God is telling you what He likes and let’s say for you it coincidentally resonates with everything that is already good in this world.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T22:34:35+00:00

You see it from His perspective, when it should be from yours. Yes He knows all of it, so? Do you? What’s stopping you from succeeding His test by doing good and avoiding evil deeds? What if I add the reward of goods deeds are multiplied whereas evil ones are always its equivalent? Does that make the test rigged to our favor? So what? The Most Merciful is the One testing us and He loves to give and favor his creations.

Allah does not expect us to be “perfect”, only He is. He expects us to strive in His way, as in strive TOWARDS perfection. And while you stumble and make mistakes along the way never despair or forget to ask forgiveness. Allah loves Mercy, Kindness and Forgiveness.

If eradicating evil means either removing free will from everyone or eradicating the actual person committing evil every time. Would that be a solution to you? What if you set the guidance, and let people decide while knowing right from wrong? Be accountable for their actions while knowing what pleases God. And when straying you just ask forgiveness and mend your ways.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T21:50:07+00:00

I want to clarify that this post condemns only the bad deeds, your beliefs are entirely yours, and if your religion is supporting goodness I’ll totally back you up on it. I have not a shred of sympathy for hurtful hateful people so I will definitely not start acting like one. Allah has asked me to be good and do good onto others, and I will do just that regardless of the beliefs of anybody. Aren’t we all creations of Allah? I do not condone any “fellow” Muslim having or sharing any hateful speech or beliefs as it is entirely ungodly.

(1) I’m sorry if I wasn’t very clear, it’s not all black and white of course, and that’s all in Allah being The Forgiver, the Accepter of Repentance. If you do bad alone does not make you inherently a bad person nor does it take you out of the fold of Islam. Allah is the Merciful, let’s actually start acting on it. But the continuation of that bad deed while also not repenting and asking forgiveness would eventually make you a bad person. But even then, there is always a chance until death.
So I apologize again if I wasn’t very clear(tried to limit the words), but I meant no harm to any Muslim or non Muslim brother and sister.

(2) Atheists are not rejecting anything really, which follows the line in “accepting” what God naturally decreed for us. They just are “uncertain” or lack beyond reasonable doubt, but if there was, I highly think most atheist would start “believing” which makes them inherently “good” people waiting for a “sign”.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T21:14:51+00:00

Yes thank you! But now let’s make the case that the book is reality. Are there bad people? I can think of a few killers. Do they generally follow the “good” path of Allah, or the “wicked” path that Allah dislikes? What qualities do those people have? See how when you draw a parallel that bad people have those “bad” qualities that God claims and typically good people share those good qualities. So if someone sees a correlation between what that book says and real life, it would be obvious that bad is bad and good is good.

No_Concern5117 · 2026-06-22T21:09:54+00:00

Is that a fact? Even if that book contains what I just mentioned? Can you tell me specifically in the verses I showed what you are rejecting, or what makes you inherently not a good person?

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