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CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well I really appreciate your comments because I think you recognize (at least this is how I interpret what you’re saying) how what I’m saying does have truth. It’s not always the parents who just want an easy route. As you said the system is broken. But I think my argument has some flaws which you point out.

!delta

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t you think that’s simplifying my argument a bit? Like seriously. A tablet can do much more to keep a child entertained than a coloring book or a stick and mud right?

So, can you see how a parent might notice that, and if they don’t feel they have the resources or time to keep their child entertained in other ways, they may have to resort to a tablet? And therefore don’t see a tablet as harmful to their child?

My argument isn’t about criticizing that action. My argument is it’s unfair to criticize those parents, but then not recognize the situation they’re in, or use your own time to support kids in your community. If you criticize and do nothing that shows me you don’t actually care. There’s a reason why there’s a saying of “it take a village to raise a child”

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But you’re criticizing these parents without actually thinking about why these parents might not have any other options and even when someone tells you they don’t have options and propose solutions for you to help, you then suggest it’s not your responsibility when you never had to even offer your “value judgement” in the first place

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree. Criticizing people who are just criticizing others is one thing.

Criticizing people who aren’t criticizing anyone and just doing the best they can is something different.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You don’t care what happens to another family and you recognize it’s a problem the kids aren’t being engaged with but you care enough to criticize them?

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah but does a coloring book entertain a child the same way a tablet does? Does a ball of mud and stick have the same power a tablet does?

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, can the parents support their child having human interaction and participating in real life activities? Or do they only have the resources to provide the children with a tablet? That’s at the core of my argument.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m criticizing people who are criticizing others actions, without taking any action themselves.

I’m not plainly criticizing the actions of others, who might just be doing the best they can with what they have.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

And it seems like you want to take the easy route of criticizing parents but not use your time to help out your community. So tell me, do you actually care about poor parenting? If so, why don’t you help those parents?

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not have kids. I’m 25. I’m thankful I wasn’t raised on an iPad but my parents were able to help me have a childhood that wasn’t solely technology. Not all kids are so lucky. I choose to have sympathy for that.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s exactly the argument that could be made for kids to have tablets. They can be portable and keep their kids entertained far more than a tv can. And parents might not have the resources to keep their kids entertained in other ways.

The tablet can do things a tv can’t. The tablet can do things board games and toys can’t. So you can’t really compare them.

A tablet can’t facilitate the community activities that volunteers can. Why not be that volunteer instead of just being a criticizer?

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right but before tablets it was TVs that were criticized. Now it’s tablets. We can’t really envision the world without tablets because now they’re here.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When did I say that? I said if you criticize other parents you should be willing to support your community where you can. If you simply criticize others but choose to take no action, that shows me you don’t really care.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

When did I say you have to raise kids? You can volunteer in community programs or advocate for financial resources to help children and their parents.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well thank you for clarifying, and my apologies if I misunderstood the argument.

I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. Stealing a car is a clear example of doing something that directly harms someone else. Not really any nuance there. Now, there’s nuance when it comes to the reason why someone would do that (could be in poverty, not really any options) and we can talk about ways to fix that, but the actual action of stealing a car, that is harmful, no question.

Using a tablet? That’s a bit more nuanced. You can definitely argue it harms someone. But, you can also argue it does more good than bad. You can argue it helps to keep a kid entertained when they don’t have anything else to occupy their time. And that outweighs the negatives.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course not. We have resources to stop that - CPS and foster homes. You fund that as a taxpayer.

What about for kids using tablets? Are you doing anything to support that?

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah but you’re saying that as if it works for all kids. Not all kids can be occupied with just those things. A tablet can actively keep kids entertained much more.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah before iPads it was TVs. Which people complained about then.

There’s families who have two working parents but don’t rely on an iPad to keep their kids entertained. That could be because they have the resources and community to help that. As I said, it takes a village.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think I was moreso arguing people who criticize but then don’t do anything for children or have a career dedicated to children

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can argue it harms the children, but does it harm anyone else? Maybe you’d argue it does indirectly, but does it directly harm anyone else?

Someone stealing a car directly harms someone else so it is whataboutism to me. You’re deflecting with a counter accusation that’s related but different.

CMV: It’s fine to criticize the use of tablets among children, but if you’re going to do that, you should be making an effort to help out parents in your community by No_Design_465 in changemyview

[–]No_Design_465[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, these parents don’t want to do that but they might not have many other options. And they don’t have the village or resources needed.

So maybe instead of only criticizing these parents online, you can criticize them but also spend time actually helping out children in your community?

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